Official Black Horse 2350mm Gilmore Red Lion

[406PIlot]

I got a tank of fuel through the engine today. Hoping to get another run through it tomorrow. Then I'll dial in the carb and get it in the air if all goes well.

I'm more excited the closer I get to the maiden!!!!!

[406PIlot]

Anyone put a smoker in their’s?

I wanted to get a few flights on the plane get comfortable and make sure the engine was dialed in before really considering a smoke system. It has crossed my mind. So I would also love to hear if people have and or what system they are using etc.

[RCBobP]

Anyone put a smoker in their’s?

[406PIlot]

Appreciate the comments. I only ran it for all of 2 minutes today. Just enough to start it richen up the mixture and that was about it... Still needs to run a tank or two thru it for break in before it goes in the air. Hoping the weather co-operates so I can do the break in this weekend. If you watch closely you can see a bit of snow fall during my initial start up today. I should of waited till nicer weather but couldn't resist getting that initial start up done.

[DaleD]

Can't forget I started the engine for the first time today!!

Here is a little clip.

https://youtu.be/YYU7GZmeH9s

Oh the SWEEEET sound of a multi-cylinder radial engine.

Your equipment install looks clean and tidy, WELL DONE.

D-Day is drawing closer now. We are all rooting for you.

DaleD

[RCBobP]

Sounds awesome!!

[406PIlot]

Can't forget I started the engine for the first time today!!

Here is a little clip.

https://youtu.be/YYU7GZmeH9s

[406PIlot]

Made a big push yesterday and today to get things finalized and finished up.

Here are a few pics.

[Twowingtj]

406PIlot Nice clean install!

[406PIlot]

A few quick pictures of my electronic setup. Did a full systems test today and everything passed with flying colors.

[406PIlot]

DaleD it will probably be another 2 weeks or so before I get to do the maiden. I'll try to get some video if possible. If there is no video there will at least be a little write up about it.

[DaleD]

I wont need to add any weight to the firewall to hit target CG. This saito FG-90R has enough weight that as long as the proper size standoff is used the target CG of 112 can be hit without any additional weight.

GREAT News!!! Not to mention you have all that power at your disposal. I’m am so looking forward to your maiden and flight report.

DaleD

[406PIlot]

I'm amazed that with the Saito engine, you still needed to add weight to the firewall to get proper balance.

I wont need to add any weight to the firewall to hit target CG. This saito FG-90R has enough weight that as long as the proper size standoff is used the target CG of 112 can be hit without any additional weight.

[RCBobP]

I'm amazed that with the Saito engine, you still needed to add weight to the firewall to get proper balance.

[CitabriaDriver]

That will be a sweet sounding motor.

DaleD I am currently putting my Gilmore together and using the saito fg-90. I am using super short standoffs to keep the engine close to the firewall in order to get to that 112mm cg.



I had to use the saito provided template to cut out the firewall an allow for the carb to come into the fuse. These pictures where while dry fitting and testing cg yesterday.

[Twowingtj]

There is about a 3/8" ply rib that runs at the bottom of the gear leg cover. I just lined up on the center of that, marked and drilled. Then hardened with CA and secured with 3/8" #2 socket head pan screws.
There are four screws per wheel pant.

[djmoose]

Twowingtj can you post a pic of how you attached the pants with screws?

djmoose Thanks for the kudos. Your prefered CG and throws may wind up different. Either way, staring out tail heavy rarely ends well. The Gilmore has a long tail moment as well. So having too much throw on the elevator, for flight, makes an unpleasant situation even worse. The ailerons are relatively small, so aren't as sensitive.

The wheel pants are pretty sturdy. Attach them with screw vs. epoxying as the instructions say. The supplied wheels have no real give to them so, unless you nose over, the wheel pants won't get damaged. I may, at some point, explore better wheels for it.

Going 4 6S packs in a 2S/2P configuration should be doable. Especially if it eliminates the need for dead weight in the nose.

[406PIlot]

DaleD I am currently putting my Gilmore together and using the saito fg-90. I am using super short standoffs to keep the engine close to the firewall in order to get to that 112mm cg.



I had to use the saito provided template to cut out the firewall an allow for the carb to come into the fuse. These pictures where while dry fitting and testing cg yesterday.

[DaleD]

I actually have lead on the firewall to balance. I balanced as per the suggestions on here and NOT in the manual. The included balancing tools needs to be redone so that the correct CG is used. That said, if you have space, use a Vanessa rig. 112mm is a good start point.

VERY interesting information re ballast being added to the firewall to achieve balance. Would you kindly advise how much ballast was added?

Just yesterday I tried to compile a table with the 4 stroke engine options that could be suitable for this Gilmore. I’m now wondering if one of either the Saito 73R5, UMS 75-5 or FG-90R3 would provide the additional needed weight PLUS offer the benefit of additional power.

By comparison the reported weights of the available engines are:-
FG-61TS is 5.2lbs
FG-73R5 is 5.7lbs
UMS 75-5 is 5.9lbs
FG-90R3 is 7.3lbs

I’m still undecided on my preference for Gas power, looking forward to receiving further performance updates. I recall someone here secured a FG-90R3 for their Gilmore.

DaleD

[CitabriaDriver]

I actually have lead on the firewall to balance. I balanced as per the suggestions on here and NOT in the manual. The included balancing tools needs to be redone so that the correct CG is used. That said, if you have space, use a Vanessa rig. 112mm is a good start point.