Official Black Horse 2350mm Gilmore Red Lion

[chines123]

Looks like Black Horse is always improving the kits. I know the blisters on the cowl are not correct for this version on the plane but they do look really nice. I am sure I will mess it up when it comes time to put them on.

[Twowingtj]

406PIlot Such a sweet sound!

Motion is down to 4 in stock at the US warehouse. Just an FYI the price on all of the wood ARFs are going up in a week from today.

I picked up a Nexa F--82 as a "just for fun" project before the prices go up. Opened the box to check it out. Actually looks pretty good.

[406PIlot]

Took a little clip of the engine running after starting it the other day. I just can't get over the sound of that saito 3 cylinder....

https://youtu.be/lE_udtbcfEM

[Twowingtj]

I am sure it is a scam, https://www.villarruelasociados.xyz/...60534&pr=43.99

I think that's a pretty good guess.

[chines123]

chines123 LOL, where did you find that?

WrightBrosRC Nothing special for landing. Just slow it on final(much slower that the video lol) and the her settle on the mains. I keep a very little bit of power on to maintain elevator and rudder authority, and let the tail settle. She's not a fan of three pointers. This technique might change a bit after I change the main wheels to the 5" Du-Bro pneumatics.

I am sure it is a scam, https://www.villarruelasociados.xyz/...60534&pr=43.99

[Twowingtj]

chines123 LOL, where did you find that?

WrightBrosRC Nothing special for landing. Just slow it on final(much slower than in the video lol) and then let her settle on the mains. I keep a very little bit of power on to maintain elevator and rudder authority, and let the tail settle. She's not a fan of three pointers. This technique might change a bit after I change the main wheels to the 5" Du-Bro pneumatics.

[chines123]

I guess I paid to much...LOL

[WrightBrosRC]

yes I have. The sticks just get real mushy and the plane almost falls as if is 3 point landing. It's strange, but really predictable and easy to manage. It actually is good for landings once you get used to it.

Thx. Good to know. Although I prefer to land on mains at speed, no mush, with control surfaces still viable vs controlling a stall. What is your landing technique Tony? There still aren't many flight videos of this version for some reason even though they sell out quickly?

[406PIlot]

Have any of you gents tested the stall character of this aircraft?

yes I have. The sticks just get real mushy and the plane almost falls as if is 3 point landing. It's strange, but really predictable and easy to manage. It actually is good for landings once you get used to it.

[WrightBrosRC]

Have any of you gents tested the stall character of this aircraft?

[Twowingtj]

chines123 Welcome to Hobby Squawk! I concur with 406Pilot and WrightBrosRC. The Gilmore likes to have lots of power on tap. A slow or sluggish air racer just seems a little unnatural lol.

It does have a lot of drag inducing surface area, so having sufficient power available to recover, if you find yourself in a bad situation, is a good idea.

[WrightBrosRC]

The DLE61 should pull the Gilmore around with no problems. It wont be a speed demon, but it wont be slow either. Run a bigger prop once it's broke in like a 23x10 and it will be a nice setup I would think.

There is a video linked further back in this thread with one running on a saito FG-61.

I agree. I think this aircraft would be a dog with the 55 which makes about 5.5HP at WOT. The 61 makes about 6.5HP at WOT. I fly mine with the Rimfire 65cc which makes about 7.5HP at WOT and I can't imaging flying it with less power. If I were going gas on this one I would try fitting a 70cc twin in there.

[406PIlot]

Has anyone installed a DLE55 yet? Was curious about a DLE61 just because I have a new one in the box

The DLE61 should pull the Gilmore around with no problems. It wont be a speed demon, but it wont be slow either. Run a bigger prop once it's broke in like a 23x10 and it will be a nice setup I would think.

There is a video linked further back in this thread with one running on a saito FG-61.

[chines123]

Has anyone installed a DLE55 yet? Was curious about a DLE61 just because I have a new one in the box

[RCBobP]

Curious to see if they made any changes based on comments in this thread, e.g., wheels.

[Twowingtj]

I don't know how many they ordered, but there's only 9 left in stock. Get'em while their hot!

[DaleD]

Gilmore is back in stock at Motion !!

OoooooH YeeeaaaH😀

DaleD

[406PIlot]

Gilmore is back in stock at Motion !!

[RCBobP]

I'll show you how to attach the landing gear and tail wheel in this episode.

Did you use the stock wheels or did you go with inflatables? I'll be flying mostly off of grass, and wondered what the downside is of using the stock wheels. Inflatable and other larger wheels have a 1/4" opening for axle. The axles in this kit are 6mm, just under 1/4". Is that a tolerable difference? I'd prefer not reaming out the landing gears to fit a 1/4" axle.

[RCBobP]

Thanks for the note about push rods. I was getting paranoid that I had misplaced them, and then was just getting confused because the elevator and rudder servos were mounted under the canopy, so how could they be that short. That's a major boo-boo that you'd think the manual would have been updated for.