New E-flite Fw-190A, 1.5m

[sfcfury]

I said 'eff it' and got the RTF with receiver and battery etc... for $549. The PNP is $459... The F4U was the same price... but I do understand that the F4U was a 100mm bigger... I wish they would have went with a 1600 vs. 1500... but it looks like a pretty damn solid plane... I like all the small things they have done with it.... screw on weaponry, the way the wings break down etc. I'm looking forward to it.
And hey... repainting is half the fun! lol..

[Oxotnik]

It isn't so much that people don't like the finish, but in this case, horizon was just lazy. It is this laziness that I'm objecting to. In truth, it would have been easier to just half ass a bunch of random splotches instead of a template of polka dots, and it while it may have looked wrong to the scale monkey on our backs, it wouldn't have looked bad and wrong.

Amen! The mottling job was just friggin' lazy. I'd have much rather have gotten the FW-190 with no mottling on it at all (and decals not applied... and maybe they aren't, I don't know), leaving the end user to add the mottling if he/she desired. The HK Bf-109E-4 is a good example. The fuselage sides were a solid RLM 65, which is accurate of many early war 109's. Many of us (myself included) chose to add mottling and Callie decal sets, to represent the plane that we wanted to model. Polka dot mottling is horrendous.

[Gilatrout]

No matter how they have finished this Plane. You will a few chronic complainers to bash the finish. The fix is simple, if you do not like it and change it complaining will not help. I repaint almost all my planes after flying or the minute I take them out of the box. Get over it if you can not do this do not buy one it's that simple

It isn't so much that people don't like the finish, but in this case, horizon was just lazy. It is this laziness that I'm objecting to. In truth, it would have been easier to just half ass a bunch of random splotches instead of a template of polka dots, and it while it may have looked wrong to the scale monkey on our backs, it wouldn't have looked bad and wrong.

[Oxotnik]

Polka dots are for bombers

At least polka-dot ugly has a purpose, when the aircraft WANTS to be seen, to establish the bomber boxes for a mission.

[Gilatrout]

Polka dots are for bombers

[Wild Man]

No matter how they have finished this Plane. You will a few chronic complainers to bash the finish. The fix is simple, if you do not like it and change it complaining will not help. I repaint almost all my planes after flying or the minute I take them out of the box. Get over it if you can not do this do not buy one it's that simple

[AirHead]

But polka dots??? My eyes are still bleeding.

Perhaps try joining the dots and see what kind of scheme appears. A Swastika on the vertical stab should make them disappear...

[Evan D]

I have the MiG and had zero issues but I know others have.

[Oxotnik]

Yes. The MiG-17 also has the gear controller that is separate from the gear motor. My MiG-17 has been down because of the gear, too. I'd forgotten about it. :-/

[Evan D]

Is the issue the same as what people had with the MiG17?

[Oxotnik]

Evan, you can always replace the crappy LG controller with one from LX. I'm in the process of doing that now for mine. I keep getting distracted with other builds, to actually replace the controller and get my Starmax FW-190 back in the air.

[Evan D]

I talked to a friend that got one a few months ago and hasn’t had any gear problems. Maybe it’s better than older ones? At $260 shipped I can try it...

[Oxotnik]

Seems I made a post and it disappeared... With the release of the HH FW catching my attention I decided to get one but not the HH. A 20% coupon, no tax and no shipping swung me towards the Hobby King one.

The 1.6m Starmax Wurger? Good luck with the blasted gear!

[Evan D]

Seems I made a post and it disappeared... With the release of the HH FW catching my attention I decided to get one but not the HH. A 20% coupon, no tax and no shipping swung me towards the Hobby King one.

[Oxotnik]

But polka dots??? My eyes are still bleeding.

[Beeg]

I think HH new that most Luftwaffe enthusiasts are also modelers and figured if they just provided a decent canvas we’d all be happy and that most of us would change the scheme to what we want anyway.

[steven gubala]

My theory is, look at the plane not the paint scheme, you can always change that.

[James]

SanExup - I hear you on price point and I can only assume that adding the smart stuff and having HH on the box drives that higher than others (not sure how we sell the 1600 corsair for like $70-$80 less).

But that said, it looks like a solid aircraft that flies really well. But I do notice from seeing a lot of the E-flite aircraft at my club, that they can be very hit or miss on their paint jobs. I am probably biased as I am just around Freewing/FlightLine stuff everyday, but when I see the P-51, or the F-4 and then look at comparable FlightLine ones, they just look more like toys to me. The SU-30 looks great and the FMS Tigercat, but this scheme certainly doesn't work. Reminds me of the new HSD Me262 where I feel for that price, the scheme looks totally off. The Freewing or even Dynam 262's look much better.

But If I wanted a P-51 right now, the EFlite one would be the one to get and Callie and some elbow grease can make it look like anything you desire.

[SanExup]

James I agree with your posts and the others. And I paint most of the planes I own. I just feel for that price point it should look better out of the box. I agree with the can't please everyone all.the time and haters are just going to hate. The plane minus the paint seems awesome. And maybe its not the scheme I would want but it should at least look a little more historic and a little less cartoonish. The FL Spitfires look incredible. Using the Spitfire as a point of comparison, maybe adding the Spektrum rx and telemetry esc would bring the spit into the same price category. I guess the point of what I am saying is, for that price, my expectations are high. I do expect a good paint job and better dots.

All said, I will probably own this plane eventually and enjoy painting it.

[Oxotnik]

Thats the real answer. Any RC'er shouldn't let a stock paint job be the deciding factor on a model they want. It's not always feasible for companies to produce multiple liveries of the same plane and regardless of which you choose, people will like/dislike.

I like the model and might just have to get myself one down the road. And I would be happy to give some business Callie's way and have fun with the rattle cans and airbrush.

Yep. As can be seen by the Seagull Bf-109E that I recently repainted, a horrendous stock paint job won't stop me from buying a warbird. Things like improper gear stance and mis-shapen canopy will. I hate 2-bladed props on 3 and 4 bladed warbirds, too, but I'm almost always able to change those. I'm loving the stance of this EFlite FW-190A. The Flightline 1.1m FW-190A has a good stance, too!

James, when is Motion going to commission an FW-190D-9 or D-13??? I'd pre-order one today, if it were announced!