Official FMS 1500mm P-47D Razorback Thread

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  • jetfool
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    Davegee,
    Glad it arrived. A little something for your new P-47. Mine show up well with the open canopy. Have you started modding the landing gear? Are you going to put poly acrylic clear on before priming? Makes a smooth canvass for paint. I put the poly over the OEM decals and after 4 coats everything leveled out.

    Best Regards, Rex

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  • davegee
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    Hi Rex: got your letter and photo of the P-47 instrument panel in the mail today. I’ll use this as my original copy and make some copies of the picture on photo paper and use the sharpened brass tubes you mentioned to cut out the instruments and put them in the new panel that I’ll use in Hairless Joe.

    Thanks for sending it to me, it will really improve the look and accuracy of the instrument panel.

    Cheers

    Davegee

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  • davegee
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    Originally posted by jetfool
    Davegee,
    Just checked FMS website and the P-47 is in stock, $469. Hopefully it will be around for awhile. Rex
    Well, that's good news! At least I have a complete kit in hand right now if they had discontinued the model altogether. That would be my luck, anyway!

    Appreciate the update. Must have been a shortterm problem of shipping from China to the USA.

    Cheers

    davegee

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  • jetfool
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    Davegee,
    Just checked FMS website and the P-47 is in stock, $469. Hopefully it will be around for awhile. Rex

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  • jetfool
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    vrosi1963,
    I purchased from park flier plastics last month. There service was great and about 3 weeks I had my order. They commutated with me on up dates thru the process. Highly recommend. Canopies were very clear and formed perfect.
    Best Regards

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  • vrosi1963
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    Anyone have a reliable source for Vac forming , the last guy i used for the 1.2m P47 bubble is a crook and will not return my 3D printed plug, Merril at M/M glider tech in California. beware people. I will contact the now new owner of parkflier plastics for the 1500mm canopies

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  • davegee
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    Originally posted by jetfool
    Davegee,
    Thanks for the info. Will come in handy if I ever build a P-47M. I have a buddy in our club that is flying his FMS P-47. He doesn't do anything except fly them, he grows tired after a season or two, sells and buys something new. I'm first on his list if he does. Hoping he does. Shame on me.
    The picture of your friend will come in handy for the black/dk blue paint that I'd like to do someday. The planes in the background give a good contrast of the paint and the oil staining from motor onto the fuselage in the background
    Best Regards, Rex
    Sounds good, Rex. I asked several people who flew or were in the 61st FS of hte 56th FG when the M models, all 130 of them, came to the field at Boxted AB in Essex in January 1945. They didn't get a lot of work as they developed engine wiring contamination on their voyage from NY to England and some of the wiring hanesses got corroded and resulted in some crashes as they got them up and running. Eventually they got it straightened out and it was "hell on wheels" against the German Luftwaffe until the end of the war. The matte black covered all the top surfaces but the bottom of the aircraft was all NMF aluminum.

    This picture is indicative of the colors of the 61st FS. They came over in NMF silver and were painted to the desires of the three squadrons in place to the end of the war. Everyone who lflew them told me taht they were painted matte black, not blue, purple, or any other color. In some lights and with the photography of the time, it might appear in some photos otherwise, but if you want an accurate color if you ever do one of these, in my opinion it should be matte black as you see in the photo.

    Glad things are coming along with your two entry aircraft. You still have some time, which is always good if you need to make any adjustments or repairs before showtime.

    Cheers

    Dave

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  • davegee
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    Originally posted by Grossman56

    Yessir, there are a few Spitfire parts that should come in handy and various other things I found interesting as well

    Grossman56
    (Dangerous Dan)
    Glad to hear it. I have had that box in my shop for years, and really haven't done much with it, except for an occasional gear/wheel replacement for my Spittie when I had it. I think there is a motor that works, not sure which plane it came out of but maybe you can make good use of it someday, or sell it, or whatever.

    Cheers

    Davegee

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  • jetfool
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    vrosi1963,
    I'd be interested in your kit components for the conv. but it would have to wait until after Toledo. My hobby money is going on the Phantom and new radio purchase and maybe the new e-flite GEE BEE plus outrageous hotel prices at the show Rex

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  • jetfool
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    Davegee,
    Thanks for the info. Will come in handy if I ever build a P-47M. I have a buddy in our club that is flying his FMS P-47. He doesn't do anything except fly them, he grows tired after a season or two, sells and buys something new. I'm first on his list if he does. Hoping he does. Shame on me.
    The picture of your friend will come in handy for the black/dk blue paint that I'd like to do someday. The planes in the background give a good contrast of the paint and the oil staining from motor onto the fuselage in the background
    Best Regards, Rex

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  • Grossman56
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    Originally posted by davegee

    yeah, I think Rex might join the squadron if this one works out as we hope!

    On another note, did you find anything in that box I dropped off at your house usable for you for extra parts?

    Cheers

    davegee
    Yessir, there are a few Spitfire parts that should come in handy and various other things I found interesting as well

    Grossman56
    (Dangerous Dan)

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  • davegee
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    Originally posted by jetfool
    DAVEGEE,
    Prop and spinner look great. One job completed, what's next? Are you going to simulate the compressibility flaps?
    Best Regards, Rex
    I have done it in the past with the M model that you saw in Florida. Fortunately for me, this is a -25RE model, the first of the bubble top P-47s and the compressibility flaps didn't make an appearance until the -30s through the Ms. I'm off the hook on this project, at least!

    Regarding the compressibility flaps, my good late friend Russ Kyler told me when they got the M models they were told to take them up for some fun and get the feel for them. Russ had a lot of P-47 time, but this was the first time he and the rest of the group had an M model in their hands. He knew about the compressibility flaps but didn't know that much about them. So, to test them out, he put the plane in a near 90 degree nose dive, built up the speed to max, and then flipped the switch for the compressibility flaps. It immediately pitched up big time, so much so that Russ passed out from the Gs, and when he came to a few seconds later, he was flying about 60 degrees nose up attitude, bat out of hell speed starting to drop off a bit. He recovered, and learned a good lesson about when and how to use the compressibility flaps in flight!

    Below is a pic of Russ in his P-47M Lorene (named after his wife). They were going up for a practice sortie and mock dogfighting amongst themselves prior to the next combat mission.

    Cheers

    Davegee


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  • davegee
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    Originally posted by vrosi1963

    The plan is to sell the canopies and the templates that are a cross section that lets anyone to accurately cut the razorback down to the correct bubble profile out line , this will be all Me ,,Mark has a real job atm and family . to small time to be of interest to him....I tried to offer the same idea for the e-flight 1.2m P47 Razor on rc groups but apparently was to much work and cost for any one of them and gave up with that group
    Well, I'm glad you are doing this project for me, and maybe for Rex, too. It should be great when it is done!

    Cheers

    davegee

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  • vrosi1963
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    Originally posted by davegee

    Looking very good, James! I was wondering, can you offer this for sale as a kit for other modelers with the popular FMS 1.5M razorback in the future when you get it all tweaked out? For my plane, this was an experiment and shipping the fuselage back and forth was well worth it , but expensive. But if you had a kit you could sell for avid and capable modelers like Rex, he could do the conversions based on the hard work you and Mark are already pioneering. Just a thought. Seems it could be a somewhat lucrative transaction for any modelers who would like a 1.5M conversion to a bubbletop that is not currently being produced at this size and quality of a kit.

    Cheers

    Davegee
    The plan is to sell the canopies and the templates that are a cross section that lets anyone to accurately cut the razorback down to the correct bubble profile out line , this will be all Me ,,Mark has a real job atm and family . to small time to be of interest to him....I tried to offer the same idea for the e-flight 1.2m P47 Razor on rc groups but apparently was to much work and cost for any one of them and gave up with that group

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  • jetfool
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    DAVEGEE,
    Prop and spinner look great. One job completed, what's next? Are you going to simulate the compressibility flaps?
    Best Regards, Rex

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  • davegee
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    I just put together the prop setup for the upcoming Hairless Joe bubbletop that we are working on now. This is actually the V3 FMS Corsair 1700mm plane propeller that is closer to the proper size and look for the 1.5M FMS P-47. This prop, which is a Hamilton Standard prop, will be on Hairless Joe. The other type of prop used on the P-47, the Curtiss Electric prop is also in use on other planes I have that used that prop with cuffs at the base of the prop blades and more pointed spinner. Both types of these V3 props have been used successfully on the FMS 1.5M P-47s that I have flown for years. The upcoming bubbletop is going to be a new and exciting addition for me, anyway. I'm hoping to fly this new version this summer.

    Cheers


    Davegee

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  • davegee
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    Originally posted by vrosi1963
    Last revision done and printing the V1 plug only at 20 % atm with a 46% infill predicted time 43 hours due to the larger 1500mm size needed... a canopy and cross section wood templates are what i will offer in the future,,,,,,
    Looking very good, James! I was wondering, can you offer this for sale as a kit for other modelers with the popular FMS 1.5M razorback in the future when you get it all tweaked out? For my plane, this was an experiment and shipping the fuselage back and forth was well worth it , but expensive. But if you had a kit you could sell for avid and capable modelers like Rex, he could do the conversions based on the hard work you and Mark are already pioneering. Just a thought. Seems it could be a somewhat lucrative transaction for any modelers who would like a 1.5M conversion to a bubbletop that is not currently being produced at this size and quality of a kit.

    Cheers

    Davegee

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  • Elbee
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    vrosi1963,

    Top Notch Work, Sir.

    Best, LB

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  • vrosi1963
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    Last revision done and printing the V1 plug only at 20 % atm with a 46% infill predicted time 43 hours due to the larger 1500mm size needed... a canopy and cross section wood templates are what i will offer in the future,,,,,,
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  • davegee
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    Originally posted by Grossman56
    That's scary crazy!
    Dave, your gonna have a one-of-a-kind for a while at least!

    Grossman56
    (Dangerous Dan)
    yeah, I think Rex might join the squadron if this one works out as we hope!

    On another note, did you find anything in that box I dropped off at your house usable for you for extra parts?

    Cheers

    davegee

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