Official FMS 1500mm P-47D Razorback Thread

[Grossman56]

yeah, I think Rex might join the squadron if this one works out as we hope!

On another note, did you find anything in that box I dropped off at your house usable for you for extra parts?

Cheers

davegee

Yessir, there are a few Spitfire parts that should come in handy and various other things I found interesting as well

Grossman56
(Dangerous Dan)

[davegee]

DAVEGEE,
Prop and spinner look great. One job completed, what's next? Are you going to simulate the compressibility flaps?
Best Regards, Rex

I have done it in the past with the M model that you saw in Florida. Fortunately for me, this is a -25RE model, the first of the bubble top P-47s and the compressibility flaps didn't make an appearance until the -30s through the Ms. I'm off the hook on this project, at least!

Regarding the compressibility flaps, my good late friend Russ Kyler told me when they got the M models they were told to take them up for some fun and get the feel for them. Russ had a lot of P-47 time, but this was the first time he and the rest of the group had an M model in their hands. He knew about the compressibility flaps but didn't know that much about them. So, to test them out, he put the plane in a near 90 degree nose dive, built up the speed to max, and then flipped the switch for the compressibility flaps. It immediately pitched up big time, so much so that Russ passed out from the Gs, and when he came to a few seconds later, he was flying about 60 degrees nose up attitude, bat out of hell speed starting to drop off a bit. He recovered, and learned a good lesson about when and how to use the compressibility flaps in flight!

Below is a pic of Russ in his P-47M Lorene (named after his wife). They were going up for a practice sortie and mock dogfighting amongst themselves prior to the next combat mission.

Cheers

Davegee

[davegee]

The plan is to sell the canopies and the templates that are a cross section that lets anyone to accurately cut the razorback down to the correct bubble profile out line , this will be all Me ,,Mark has a real job atm and family . to small time to be of interest to him....I tried to offer the same idea for the e-flight 1.2m P47 Razor on rc groups but apparently was to much work and cost for any one of them and gave up with that group

Well, I'm glad you are doing this project for me, and maybe for Rex, too. It should be great when it is done!

Cheers

davegee

[vrosi1963]

Looking very good, James! I was wondering, can you offer this for sale as a kit for other modelers with the popular FMS 1.5M razorback in the future when you get it all tweaked out? For my plane, this was an experiment and shipping the fuselage back and forth was well worth it , but expensive. But if you had a kit you could sell for avid and capable modelers like Rex, he could do the conversions based on the hard work you and Mark are already pioneering. Just a thought. Seems it could be a somewhat lucrative transaction for any modelers who would like a 1.5M conversion to a bubbletop that is not currently being produced at this size and quality of a kit.

Cheers

Davegee

The plan is to sell the canopies and the templates that are a cross section that lets anyone to accurately cut the razorback down to the correct bubble profile out line , this will be all Me ,,Mark has a real job atm and family . to small time to be of interest to him....I tried to offer the same idea for the e-flight 1.2m P47 Razor on rc groups but apparently was to much work and cost for any one of them and gave up with that group

[jetfool]

DAVEGEE,
Prop and spinner look great. One job completed, what's next? Are you going to simulate the compressibility flaps?
Best Regards, Rex

[davegee]

I just put together the prop setup for the upcoming Hairless Joe bubbletop that we are working on now. This is actually the V3 FMS Corsair 1700mm plane propeller that is closer to the proper size and look for the 1.5M FMS P-47. This prop, which is a Hamilton Standard prop, will be on Hairless Joe. The other type of prop used on the P-47, the Curtiss Electric prop is also in use on other planes I have that used that prop with cuffs at the base of the prop blades and more pointed spinner. Both types of these V3 props have been used successfully on the FMS 1.5M P-47s that I have flown for years. The upcoming bubbletop is going to be a new and exciting addition for me, anyway. I'm hoping to fly this new version this summer.

Cheers


Davegee

[davegee]

Last revision done and printing the V1 plug only at 20 % atm with a 46% infill predicted time 43 hours due to the larger 1500mm size needed... a canopy and cross section wood templates are what i will offer in the future,,,,,,

Looking very good, James! I was wondering, can you offer this for sale as a kit for other modelers with the popular FMS 1.5M razorback in the future when you get it all tweaked out? For my plane, this was an experiment and shipping the fuselage back and forth was well worth it , but expensive. But if you had a kit you could sell for avid and capable modelers like Rex, he could do the conversions based on the hard work you and Mark are already pioneering. Just a thought. Seems it could be a somewhat lucrative transaction for any modelers who would like a 1.5M conversion to a bubbletop that is not currently being produced at this size and quality of a kit.

Cheers

Davegee

[Elbee]

vrosi1963,

Top Notch Work, Sir.

Best, LB

[vrosi1963]

Last revision done and printing the V1 plug only at 20 % atm with a 46% infill predicted time 43 hours due to the larger 1500mm size needed... a canopy and cross section wood templates are what i will offer in the future,,,,,,

[davegee]

That's scary crazy!
Dave, your gonna have a one-of-a-kind for a while at least!

Grossman56
(Dangerous Dan)

yeah, I think Rex might join the squadron if this one works out as we hope!

On another note, did you find anything in that box I dropped off at your house usable for you for extra parts?

Cheers

davegee

[Grossman56]

That's scary crazy!
Dave, your gonna have a one-of-a-kind for a while at least!

Grossman56
(Dangerous Dan)

[davegee]

vrosie1963,
Plane is looking great
Best Regards, Rex

I echo Rex' thoughts. It is really coming along great and I am looking forward to starting on my Hairless Joe when I get it back!

Cheers

Davegee

[jetfool]

vrosie1963,
Plane is looking great
Best Regards, Rex

[vrosi1963]

Yes the image angle canceled out that the test part dose have the scale forward angle. getting closer on the profile sanding prior to the first primer tail coat

[davegee]

Like it, James. The only adjustment that I would do is angling the top part of the armor plate forward some per photos of the real thing. Perhaps that was to get better clearance for the sliding canopy and maybe also it might help deflect the energy of a bullet hitting it at an angle instead of straight up and down. Just a guess.

[vrosi1963]

pattern headrest to start

[davegee]

Good job dave. Gota say $100 us dollars from frenchy frenchy sound. EeXtreeemly fair:partying_face:

Yeah, service was great, shipped out via FedEx a couple of days later out of Paris. I think it was nonstop from there to Memphis, and then another flight or two and it was in my hands. For $100 USD for all that, I'd say that is a bargain! I still hope models from China will resume shipping someday, but for now, I'm all set to start on this project. The box looked like someone had used it for golfing practice, but fortunately none of the contents were damaged in the least.

Cheers

Davegee

[davegee]

Sure . Mark is working on the making the frame outline completely scale first prior to printing the plug i hope by tomorrow

Cool!

Thanks

Dave

[vrosi1963]

No sweat, James. I have some ideas in my head so I think I can make it work. When you get to final sizing, can you make me a couple of the clear canopies/windscreens? I might need one as a spare and to do my canopy opening work it might take another one to get it right. I can certainly pay you for extra canopies when you get that far. Just let me know.

Thanks

davegee

Sure . Mark is working on the making the frame outline completely scale first prior to printing the plug i hope by tomorrow

[davegee]

Davegee,
Your P-47 in Florida is beautiful. Not much room for an actuator in the fus. with full cockpit and electronics. Might be able to get one in if you cut into the forward hatch underneath for room, Ahla Elbee mod. Just have to sleep on the idea.
Lucky is already except for the graphics from Callie. Wife is allowing me to park it on the dining room table until Toledo.
Best Regards, Rex

God bless your wife! I don't think I could pull lthat off with my bride of almost 45 years!

I'll have to give it some thought. One possibility on the bubbletop is the flattish area of the turtledeck behind the pilot. Might be able to work a jack screw or servo underneath that if I make it removable. Just a thought. There is no real reason to have a working canopy on mine, just thinkin' aloud about possibilities at the moment. I definitely want a good cockpit, well painted pilot, great and accurate paint scheme to a specific time in history of the summer of 1944, because it changed so much with battle damage. Both wings, the tail, the engine, and other damage to replace them occurred that summer, but it came home every time. In fact the following December, when some wanted to write it off because it wasn't flying like it should after all those repairs, Dave Schilling shot down five (5) German aircraft on one mission! Those were the last ones he recorded, to about 23 kills and about a dozen destropyed ont he ground.

I'll figure something out as I proceed. James is coming along well with the fuselage and canopy mod for a bubbletop, so that is very good and important.

Cheers

Davegee