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  • RMatteson
    Captain Rick

    • Feb 2018
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    #1441
    I have a FL Tigercat a few months old and the graphic numbers and letters are lifting up and in one case on tail, one letter came right off when I checked it. Has anyone else had a problems? I have ordered a new set, is there a sealant that could be brushed on over it, after it is applied?
    Thanks Rick

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    • rifleman_btx
      me

      • Dec 2016
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      • West Point TX
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      #1442
      Never had a problem with mine, but i did with one of the P38s. Lost one sticker off the tail. No issues since though.

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      • Ole-Timer
        Warbird Enthusiast

        • Dec 2017
        • 344
        • New Brighton, PA
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        #1443
        Some of the stickers don’t stick very well even on a clean surface. I use a monokote iron on low to help activate the glue, it works well.

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        • Gilatrout
          RC Pilot Addict

          • Dec 2016
          • 806
          • Albuquerque NM
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          #1444
          The all plastic design of the propeller hub on the F7F can easily fail. What happens is the mounting screw can push through the plastic retainer, resulting in nothing actually holding the prop assembly to the shaft.

          The problem is caused by a gap between the plastic retainer and the prop shaft.

          In my case it wasn't obvious what was happening because it didn't always happen. Some prop replacements would be fine, others wouldn't, or would only happen after several flights.

          At first I thought some batch of the hubs had a manufacturing fault. It only takes a few mm of a gap for anyone to cause the retainer to fail when mounting the prop assembly instead I discovered the problem is the screws used to mount the props to the hub are too long.

          Depending on how tightly you screw the propeller blades on to the hub can leave a portion of the screw coming out the back of the hub. The fact the fault was intermittent is because not every assembly had screw tips coming out the back of the hub. No screw tip, the hub assembly sits properly on the shaft and the palstic retainer is supported. If any of the screw tips extend out the back of the hub, the assembly could fail when you tighten it on the shaft.

          The fix is to file or grind off the extending screw tips flush to the hub or use slightly shorter screws to hold the prop blades on to the hub.

          Ultimately, a redesign of the assembly to something like the one used on the B24 would be best. In the meantime, check your hubs. If you have protruding screws, you probably have weakened or damaged the retainer. I'd recommend replacing the hubs with new ones to be safe. This is too awesome a plane to lose because a prop came off in flight.



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          • MesRcPilot
            Hobby Squawk -Spitfire pilot

            • Jan 2017
            • 163
            • City of Split ,Croatia ,EU
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            #1445
            Respected Gilatrout , all this mentioned is present with all the similar products around the world and it is good that you have written it and warned. I want and need disassemble, control, and reassemble the whole mode l(In mine case Spit 1600). Thanks a lot, this is very useful for me ;)
            Note:I have to admit that FL have the smallest number of construction and other defects on their products.

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            • Dual Prop Dave
              Just another Prop Nut!

              • May 2017
              • 144
              • Sunbury,Pa
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              #1446
              Originally posted by RMatteson
              I have a FL Tigercat a few months old and the graphic numbers and letters are lifting up and in one case on tail, one letter came right off when I checked it. Has anyone else had a problems? I have ordered a new set, is there a sealant that could be brushed on over it, after it is applied?
              Thanks Rick
              I'm having the same problem with my Tigercat and P-38 decals also.
              I followed the advice of George over at TiredIron Aviation, and lightly brushed a small amount of the supplied glue that comes with these foamies on the loose parts and reapplied them and they stayed perfectly in place.

              Hope this helps.

              Dave

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              • Grossman56
                Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

                • Jun 2014
                • 7340
                • Cody, Wyoming
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                #1447
                Originally posted by Gilatrout
                The all plastic design of the propeller hub on the F7F can easily fail. What happens is the mounting screw can push through the plastic retainer, resulting in nothing actually holding the prop assembly to the shaft.

                The problem is caused by a gap between the plastic retainer and the prop shaft.

                In my case it wasn't obvious what was happening because it didn't always happen. Some prop replacements would be fine, others wouldn't, or would only happen after several flights.

                At first I thought some batch of the hubs had a manufacturing fault. It only takes a few mm of a gap for anyone to cause the retainer to fail when mounting the prop assembly instead I discovered the problem is the screws used to mount the props to the hub are too long.

                Depending on how tightly you screw the propeller blades on to the hub can leave a portion of the screw coming out the back of the hub. The fact the fault was intermittent is because not every assembly had screw tips coming out the back of the hub. No screw tip, the hub assembly sits properly on the shaft and the palstic retainer is supported. If any of the screw tips extend out the back of the hub, the assembly could fail when you tighten it on the shaft.

                The fix is to file or grind off the extending screw tips flush to the hub or use slightly shorter screws to hold the prop blades on to the hub.

                Ultimately, a redesign of the assembly to something like the one used on the B24 would be best. In the meantime, check your hubs. If you have protruding screws, you probably have weakened or damaged the retainer. I'd recommend replacing the hubs with new ones to be safe. This is too awesome a plane to lose because a prop came off in flight.


                I had the same thing with brand new hubs, resulting in the prop not sitting flush with the shaft, so, I knocked off the protruding tips and they work fine, but its a good idea to check the hub screw as well, I also had one tighten and fail, on the ground thankfully, so I have a few that ride in the spare parts box.

                Grossman56
                Team Gross!

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                • rifleman_btx
                  me

                  • Dec 2016
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                  • West Point TX
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                  #1448
                  Man with everyone having issues with their props, im wondering if i just go too easy on my plane and not pushing them hard enough. :Straight-Face:

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                  • Mad Baron
                    132 Aviation

                    • Sep 2017
                    • 547
                    • McMinnville Tn.
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                    #1449
                    here is a pic of mine after assembly right before it rolled off the table

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                    • OV10
                      >>>Twins are 2X the Fun<<< (Squawk Moderator)

                      • Sep 2014
                      • 4264
                      • Owego, NY
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                      #1450
                      Can't count me as everyone :P. Used a 2.5mm ID washer under that hub screw head so it wouldn't pull through plastic.
                      I always use an appropriated sized washer under screw heads that attach spinners to the back plate.;)
                      Only problem I had on the Tiger and Lightning was that foam don't tolerate incineration at all :Scared:
                      Warbird Charlie
                      HSD Skyraider FlightLine OV-10 FMS 1400: P-40B, P-51, F4U, F6F, T-28, P-40E, Pitts, 1700 F4U & F7F, FOX glider Freewing A-6, T-33, P-51 Dynam ME-262, Waco TF Giant P-47; ESM F7F-3 LX PBJ-1 EFL CZ T-28, C-150, 1500 P-51 & FW-190

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                      • rifleman_btx
                        me

                        • Dec 2016
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                        #1451
                        Man that still tears me up about that damn fire bro. :(

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                        • Twowingtj
                          If It Flys, I'll Try It

                          • Dec 2016
                          • 1907
                          • Southerntier, NY
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                          #1452
                          Originally posted by OV10
                          Only problem I had on the Tiger and Lightning was that foam don't tolerate incineration at all :Scared:
                          After your little girl get's hitched, you'll just have to get started on the 83" Tigercat:Cool:

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                          • themudduck
                            -TMD- Foaming at the Mouth!

                            • Apr 2017
                            • 1041
                            • Burton OH (near Cleveland)
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                            #1453
                            Originally posted by Mad Baron
                            here is a pic of mine after assembly right before it rolled off the table
                            umm.. are you saying that it rolled off? I hope it wasn't smashed up... that sucks.
                            Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.

                            Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com

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                            • Hardway
                              Hobby Squawk Moderator

                              • Mar 2017
                              • 3148
                              • Willow Park, Texas
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                              #1454
                              Originally posted by Mad Baron
                              here is a pic of mine after assembly right before it rolled off the table
                              :(:( Status??

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                              • OV10
                                >>>Twins are 2X the Fun<<< (Squawk Moderator)

                                • Sep 2014
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                                #1455
                                Originally posted by Twowingtj

                                After your little girl get's hitched, you'll just have to get started on the 83" Tigercat:Cool:
                                Along with getting the garage rebuilt ;)
                                Warbird Charlie
                                HSD Skyraider FlightLine OV-10 FMS 1400: P-40B, P-51, F4U, F6F, T-28, P-40E, Pitts, 1700 F4U & F7F, FOX glider Freewing A-6, T-33, P-51 Dynam ME-262, Waco TF Giant P-47; ESM F7F-3 LX PBJ-1 EFL CZ T-28, C-150, 1500 P-51 & FW-190

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                                • Hardway
                                  Hobby Squawk Moderator

                                  • Mar 2017
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                                  #1456
                                  Originally posted by OV10

                                  Along with getting the garage rebuilt ;)
                                  Sending thoughts and prayers to you and you family Bro!!! For blessings in everything ya'll do in the future!!! :Cool::Cool:

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                                  • Mad Baron
                                    132 Aviation

                                    • Sep 2017
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                                    #1457
                                    Originally posted by themudduck

                                    umm.. are you saying that it rolled off? I hope it wasn't smashed up... that sucks.
                                    I went to pick it up and bumped it and before I could catch it one of the main wheels fell of the table and snapped the gear door off. I think I'm going to walk away from it for a while since I'm upset with it.

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                                    • Hardway
                                      Hobby Squawk Moderator

                                      • Mar 2017
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                                      • Willow Park, Texas
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                                      #1458
                                      I have an extra gear door set if you need it!! Sorry that happened...

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                                      • Grossman56
                                        Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

                                        • Jun 2014
                                        • 7340
                                        • Cody, Wyoming
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                                        #1459
                                        Originally posted by Mad Baron

                                        I went to pick it up and bumped it and before I could catch it one of the main wheels fell of the table and snapped the gear door off. I think I'm going to walk away from it for a while since I'm upset with it.
                                        Easy big Fella!!
                                        I had a ladder fall off the wall and come down on the tail of mine. I couldn't believe that all it did was a slight ding in the vertical stab's leading edge. Out with the foam filler and good as new. She lives a charmed life.

                                        Grossman56
                                        Team Gross!

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                                        • Mad Baron
                                          132 Aviation

                                          • Sep 2017
                                          • 547
                                          • McMinnville Tn.
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                                          #1460
                                          I am really starting to hate this plane. the tail is separating from the fuse even though I used a generous amount of foam tac. I wish I sent it back when I got it.

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