I appreciate that Ron, it's a shame that they disappeared, if you can find them, I'm sure a bunch of us will download them. I'm starting an external hard drive dedicated to all things aircraft and will store them there for future use for all.
Thanks Elbee for the headrest, any excuse for playing around with the Prusa program is good to me!
I'll fire them off to Dave as well, poor guy has quite the backlog!
Thanks Ron, I downloaded the only other set of files I could find and they had 7 STL's in them, which is what we have already. If you have a set of files with a couple of more STL's I appreciate it if you could forward them to us.
Grossman56
(Dangerous Dan)
I down loaded them back when I preordered the plane but can not find them, I did look at them back then and saw pieces that went over the lip to finish it off. I will go through my files again and see if I can locate them.
I know I did because I did the same with the B-24 and had them when they were asking on the B-24 page.
Dan, I think that there is two missing Stl files, there were some upper files that the u shaped areas fitted to, the tanks go on the Lt side with the u tabs up.
Ron
Thanks Ron, I downloaded the only other set of files I could find and they had 7 STL's in them, which is what we have already. If you have a set of files with a couple of more STL's I appreciate it if you could forward them to us.
I have the Prusa slicer program thanks to Elbee, so I checked through the files and the second set of files as well, they contained the 7 STL's that Dave already has, are there more than 7 in anyone's collection??
Grossman56
(Dangerous Dan)
Danger,
I recall needing to quick design a Headrest for the Cockpit.
I found mine, though it differs from my print and I do not why, but I like it better.
Open it in your Prusa Slicer and you'll see what I mean.
I have the Prusa slicer program thanks to Elbee, so I checked through the files and the second set of files as well, they contained the 7 STL's that Dave already has, are there more than 7 in anyone's collection??
Dan, I think that there is two missing Stl files, there were some upper files that the u shaped areas fitted to, the tanks go on the Lt side with the u tabs up.
Ron
Now that's interesting, have to have Dave look through those files, they may be missing from the set we were sent.
I was saying to Dave that I want to build the maintenance ramp that someone came up with and drill the little hole in the cowling to actually have it installed while DD is sitting on the ground. I'll scratch build that for sure, but has anyone seen any 3D files for maintenance crews??
I perused the thread and found one of the fellows had cut the floor away and found the control arms were blocking the way, similar to the Corsair. He said he gained about 20mm. My idea was to have approximately 1/3 to 1/2 of the upper leg printed on the pilot and then cut the foam to sink him in. The effect when you look in the cockpit would be what we're aiming for I'm thinking.
Played around with the parts that Dave printed and figured things out. This is no surprise to all of you that have already installed these parts. Here is the order in which they go, from the seat to the rear of the cockpit. The middle frame has five pins, this is where the triangular piece attaches, the pins line up with the holes quite nicely. Then of course the seat attaches to this as well. The slot in the triangular piece needs to be modified to fit the seat belt straps through if you want to add that detail. Dave didn't include a headrest but I'm sure its on its way. Hopefully it was in the file!
The two side panels are kind of strange, the air tanks are on the port side and the lines are on the top of the thanks. So what are the tabs for?? All they do is stick out in an unscale-like fashion You can see those tabs on the left (top) of the pieces in this pic. My piece snapped off just behind the O2 tanks, which is fine, easier to fit in and there was nothing detail-wise there anyway, I cut about 1/8" off the other one as well.
Just happened to fine a Battle of Britain Vallejo paint set on Amazon which is on its way, it has a color match to the proper cockpit color.
Just have to see what Dave comes up with regarding the pilot, I purchased the bust and the full pilot which turns out was a good move because the bust is one piece and Dave says that the bust pilot is a little large in the body but good head wise. You can't reduce the size of the body without reducing the size of the head. With the full pilot I believe it gives you the option of printing just the body (which I gather is the same as the bust, minus the head) which you can scale up or down and of course the same with the head.
Great Winter projects!
Grossman56
(Dangerous Dan)
Dan, I think that there is two missing Stl files, there were some upper files that the u shaped areas fitted to, the tanks go on the Lt side with the u tabs up.
Ron
Make that three! I love taking pieces I find and making them work on models, the cockpit of BBD is a prime example, used parts from a picture frame kit and zip ties for the throttle controls, the quadrant was made of balsa.
Since we fly at low altitude here in Cody, I'm thinking no mask, but I like the idea of it being in the cockpit, also, since we're not likely to run into the Luftwaffe out here either, I say goggles up! Besides, I like painting the faces!!
Never In The Art Of Model Building Has So Much Been Figured Out By So Few!
Guys, when all else fails go old school. A block of balsa a little craving, viola, a beautiful headrest.
Totally agree, Rex! I've been a "old school" scratchbuilder since I was 9 years old when I built a 1/6 scale Mercury spacecraft out of two lamp shades from the five and dime and a GI Joe. Ooof! That was a LONG time ago!
I perused the thread and found one of the fellows had cut the floor away and found the control arms were blocking the way, similar to the Corsair. He said he gained about 20mm. My idea was to have approximately 1/3 to 1/2 of the upper leg printed on the pilot and then cut the foam to sink him in. The effect when you look in the cockpit would be what we're aiming for I'm thinking.
Played around with the parts that Dave printed and figured things out. This is no surprise to all of you that have already installed these parts. Here is the order in which they go, from the seat to the rear of the cockpit. The middle frame has five pins, this is where the triangular piece attaches, the pins line up with the holes quite nicely. Then of course the seat attaches to this as well. The slot in the triangular piece needs to be modified to fit the seat belt straps through if you want to add that detail. Dave didn't include a headrest but I'm sure its on its way. Hopefully it was in the file!
The two side panels are kind of strange, the air tanks are on the port side and the lines are on the top of the thanks. So what are the tabs for?? All they do is stick out in an unscale-like fashion You can see those tabs on the left (top) of the pieces in this pic. My piece snapped off just behind the O2 tanks, which is fine, easier to fit in and there was nothing detail-wise there anyway, I cut about 1/8" off the other one as well.
Just happened to fine a Battle of Britain Vallejo paint set on Amazon which is on its way, it has a color match to the proper cockpit color.
Just have to see what Dave comes up with regarding the pilot, I purchased the bust and the full pilot which turns out was a good move because the bust is one piece and Dave says that the bust pilot is a little large in the body but good head wise. You can't reduce the size of the body without reducing the size of the head. With the full pilot I believe it gives you the option of printing just the body (which I gather is the same as the bust, minus the head) which you can scale up or down and of course the same with the head.
Great Winter projects!
Grossman56
(Dangerous Dan)
Great info, Dan. Thanks. Regarding the headrest, I have not seen it in any of the files I have looked at so far. Maybe I missed it, and if so I'll print a couple of them up. If not, we can easily scratchbuild one out of wood or plastic.
I printed those 7 cockpit files through the night and am now printing up a larger bodied pilot and I'm hoping that we can make it fit, even if we have to amputate the lower legs. That is a pity as the detail on the lower legs and boots is excellent. But we do make sacrifices for King and Country, don't we?? Ha!
The new pilot body print will take most of the day, over 9 hours, start to end. So, I should know more this evening if this one is within the range of size that works for this model, or if I need to adjust it and print overnight again tonight.
There are three choices of heads to put on the RAF pilot. One shows all the face, helmet on, but no oxygen mask or goggles in the way. The second one has the pilot with the oxygen mask in place, but goggles up on his head. The third has goggles down, oxygen mask on, so you don't see much of his face. Let me know which one appeals when we go to printing the final copy. They do have a separate file of an oxyden mask and tube that can be put off to the side of the helmet of the head that doesn't have any obstructions to his face. Just a thought.
So here he is shoehorned in- removing the cockpit floor down to the pushrod tubes gains about 20mm, otherwise the figure would have to be cut at the waist. I wanted to retain the legs and all the cotton stuffing has been removed from his butt to get him as low as possible- this was necessary to fit him into the P-47 as well.
Tom
I perused the thread and found one of the fellows had cut the floor away and found the control arms were blocking the way, similar to the Corsair. He said he gained about 20mm. My idea was to have approximately 1/3 to 1/2 of the upper leg printed on the pilot and then cut the foam to sink him in. The effect when you look in the cockpit would be what we're aiming for I'm thinking.
Played around with the parts that Dave printed and figured things out. This is no surprise to all of you that have already installed these parts. Here is the order in which they go, from the seat to the rear of the cockpit. The middle frame has five pins, this is where the triangular piece attaches, the pins line up with the holes quite nicely. Then of course the seat attaches to this as well. The slot in the triangular piece needs to be modified to fit the seat belt straps through if you want to add that detail. Dave didn't include a headrest but I'm sure its on its way. Hopefully it was in the file!
The two side panels are kind of strange, the air tanks are on the port side and the lines are on the top of the thanks. So what are the tabs for?? All they do is stick out in an unscale-like fashion You can see those tabs on the left (top) of the pieces in this pic. My piece snapped off just behind the O2 tanks, which is fine, easier to fit in and there was nothing detail-wise there anyway, I cut about 1/8" off the other one as well.
Just happened to fine a Battle of Britain Vallejo paint set on Amazon which is on its way, it has a color match to the proper cockpit color.
Just have to see what Dave comes up with regarding the pilot, I purchased the bust and the full pilot which turns out was a good move because the bust is one piece and Dave says that the bust pilot is a little large in the body but good head wise. You can't reduce the size of the body without reducing the size of the head. With the full pilot I believe it gives you the option of printing just the body (which I gather is the same as the bust, minus the head) which you can scale up or down and of course the same with the head.
Dan,
If there is room below you could be the first to do this. Make a styrene sheet tub for the complete body pilot to be in. Then you could add any detail you choose.
Here's the pics of the 3D printed cockpit pieces Dave just printed up for me. As with the Corsair, the side pieces are slightly (1/8th") too long, so I trimmed them a bit but other than that, they fit very well.
Has anyone cut out the floor for a full body pilot?
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