Freewing 90mm F-22 Raptor - Official Thread

[ElCid]

I have seen it. I did my mod when I originally built it over four years ago. That came out well afterwards. Though I did think of getting the files, they were pay per view, not sure if they still are, I just left mine as it is. I know of almost no one that has duplicated what I have and only a couple/ few that have done the 3D printed with extra servo way.

My way was no cost, no extra servos, simple. And works very well. I think the 3D way is probably a little more efficient.

I am thinking a hybrid approach, use your method but with the 3d printed files.

[Evan D]

I have seen it. I did my mod when I originally built it over four years ago. That came out well afterwards. Though I did think of getting the files, they were pay per view, not sure if they still are, I just left mine as it is. I know of almost no one that has duplicated what I have and only a couple/ few that have done the 3D printed with extra servo way.

My way was no cost, no extra servos, simple. And works very well. I think the 3D way is probably a little more efficient.

[ElCid]

Evan D - Your thrust vectoring mod looks great but I was wondering if you had see this? I have a ton of HT- LW-PLA and might give these a try but modify them to work off of the elevator servos.

video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94m47ATyaYM

stl files
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game...-from-motionrc

[ElCid]

I saw just the motor not the combo. It’ll be interesting how these new fans perform. I don’t see how that at 1750kv will have so much thrust.

I will report back once it gets here and after the first flight.i was looking at the combos and the esc that I already have will work fine withe this fan motor combo.

[Evan D]

I saw just the motor not the combo. It’ll be interesting how these new fans perform. I don’t see how that at 1750kv will have so much thrust.

[ElCid]

What are you looking at? I see a V2 fan but not in a F-22 FREEWING 90MM V2 12 BLADE SPECIAL METAL EDF FOR 6S HIGH SPEED - 1750KV

And the F-22 says nothing about a reverse thrust ESC???

This one for 6S

https://www.rc-castle.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=256_308&product_id=9924&sort=p.price&order=DESC

This one for 8S - No reverse on this one.

https://www.rc-castle.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=256_308&product_id=9926&sort=p.price&order=DESC

[Evan D]

What are you looking at? I see a V2 fan but not in a F-22 FREEWING 90MM V2 12 BLADE SPECIAL METAL EDF FOR 6S HIGH SPEED - 1750KV

And the F-22 says nothing about a reverse thrust ESC???

[ElCid]

Get the newest version, V2, available at RC-castle if MRC doesn't carry them yet. The 6S 1750kv version looks very promising with 4.4kg, and the 8S 1350kv a whopping 5.3kg static thrust.

Looks like i will be a Guinee pig, both have reverse thrust which will be a good add especially for my F4.

[Evan D]

Are you saying FreeWing is labeling newer ones that have a different fan as V2? That would be new as typically they make changes and it's up to the buyer to understand what change was made.

[TangoVector]

I appreciate it, i was thinking along the same lines. Was looking at putting a Mezon ESC/BEC combo (i fly Jeti and use them in my Helis) but figured to stay stock would be a better approach.

Get the newest version, V2, available at RC-castle if MRC doesn't carry them yet. The 6S 1750kv version looks very promising with 4.4kg, and the 8S 1350kv a whopping 5.3kg static thrust.

[Evan D]

What’s the cost on the mezon?

[ElCid]

If you need to change I'd go to 8S.

The stock 8S EDF and ESC/BEC would be about the easiest and cheapest way to do it. I like Jet Fan EDFs, they are 9b, light weight and very efficient but expensive and then you need a matching motor. I use HET motors but have had the kevlar windings in a couple come apart. If I had the money I would go with Neu motors, I use them on my pylon racers and hot liners but they are very expensive. There are also a lot of choices for ESC's and internal or adding an external BEC. The stock one is really a no brainer since it fits, comes with the right length wires (especially if you are also using the FreeWIng stock 8S fan) and is inexpensive. I went through a couple high dollar Castles and then said heck with it and got the FreeWing one.

I appreciate it, i was thinking along the same lines. Was looking at putting a Mezon ESC/BEC combo (i fly Jeti and use them in my Helis) but figured to stay stock would be a better approach.

[Evan D]

If you need to change I'd go to 8S.

The stock 8S EDF and ESC/BEC would be about the easiest and cheapest way to do it. I like Jet Fan EDFs, they are 9b, light weight and very efficient but expensive and then you need a matching motor. I use HET motors but have had the kevlar windings in a couple come apart. If I had the money I would go with Neu motors, I use them on my pylon racers and hot liners but they are very expensive. There are also a lot of choices for ESC's and internal or adding an external BEC. The stock one is really a no brainer since it fits, comes with the right length wires (especially if you are also using the FreeWIng stock 8S fan) and is inexpensive. I went through a couple high dollar Castles and then said heck with it and got the FreeWing one.

[ElCid]

Anyone have thoughts on upgrading to the 12 blade 90mm fan and 1550amp ESC for this bird? I had an unfortunate "afterburner" wire ingestion incident :D into my 9 blade and while it appears to be ok (model flys fine) i am a bit worried about some scoring within the fan duct.

anyone have a suggestion or recommendation? Do i go 8s and be done with it?

[ElCid]

If you are willing to dump a lot of money in radio gear, then I'd suggest Jeti over Spektrum anyday... and so would most people flying really expensive models, I think.

There you'll get functionality AND reliability. ;)

Powerbox CORE is another decent option, but Jeti has them beat for the time being me thinks.

Airguardian is spot on.

I have been flying Jeti (DS-24) since they came on the scene, and I also have a Radio Master TX16s. From a programing perspective I can't imagine there is anything both radios can't accomplish.

Other than build quality the major differences are ease of use (programing) and receiver/telemetry options. IMHO Jeti is far stronger in both of these categories but depending on your use case the Radio Master is an exceptionally capable radio.

I picked up the Radio Master for my racing/freestyle quads (ELRS) because Jeti is not making micro and mini receivers for quads available in the US yet. I love both radios and you can't go wrong with either.

Powerbox is looking very interesting but i think they are a year+ or so behind the curve regarding telemetry and receiver options. Their primary use case is RC Turbine Jets atm, so not much on the EDF or other rc disciplines. Also, Jeti is coming out with their new line of transmitters next year (undergoing FCC review now) which i think will move them up regarding some of the missing gingerbread options such as WiFi, Bluetool and touch screens.

[ElCid]

Here's a video of mine. I don't have crazy throws (I think I'm on mid rates in the video) but I do have TVs.

IMG 1771 - YouTube

Though I have full span flaps I like the feel of standard flaps better. I also don't use elevator to flap mix, it doesn't work as well as most planes, probably since the TE of the flaps are right at the LE of the stabs.

Very nice set up! The thrust vectoring is very well done.

[rifleman_btx]

This may have to be a next fpv candidate

[xviper]

If you are willing to dump a lot of money in radio gear, then I'd suggest Jeti over Spektrum anyday...

Oh how I would have liked to have gotten into Jeti, but the price at the time scared me to death. I simply wasn't sure if I was going to get that serious about RC. By the time I was hooked again, I was deeply ensconced in Spektrum. Too old and set in my ways. Not only the "KISS" principle but the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" came into play. Another persuader ..................... A couple of people at the field would come up to me to ask how to do something with their FrSky or other brand and all I could do was shrug my shoulders and look stupid.

[Airguardian]

However, Spektrum is 100% worth the cost, in my opinion, when you consider what you're getting.

If you are willing to dump a lot of money in radio gear, then I'd suggest Jeti over Spektrum anyday... and so would most people flying really expensive models, I think.

There you'll get functionality AND reliability. ;)

Powerbox CORE is another decent option, but Jeti has them beat for the time being me thinks.

[xviper]

However, Spektrum is 100% worth the cost, in my opinion, when you consider what you're getting. The ease of use and presentation of the Android interface of the IX series of radios is amazing.

As is my opinion. I started with Spektrum this time around and have upgraded along the way to more sophisticated Spektrum. I have over 50 planes with Spektrum RXs and at this time in my life and at this stage in my RC journey, I'm not about to change. Although I have not jumped into the IX arena, I did just recently acquire an NX10. No learning curve to deal with, no fuss, nothing truly unfamiliar, a quick and easy transition. It does everything I need or want it to do. It has features I'll likely never use. I don't need it to brush my teeth or massage my feet. Plus, I can walk into any hobby shop and pick up a BNF plane and know it can be bound and work in seconds. Lemon RXs are "dirt cheap" and even Spektrum smart RXs are affordable.
If you are starting out and in the market for such equipment, that's another story. You'll be dealing with that learning curve anyway, so do your homework.