Official Freewing Twin 80mm F-14D Tomcat Thread

[xviper]

Just acquired the freewing F-14 Tomcat 80mm and wondered if anyone has considered using carbon fiber sheet for making the main landing gear strengthening plate as apposed to aluminum. It was just a thought i had and not heard anyone doing it and wondered if it would work obviously there would be a weight saving and the plate could be glued down to increase the strength and reduce any flex.
I will probably get some don't be stupid comments but if you don't ask 🤷

I mentioned in the RCInformer F-14 thread that I used CF square rods to beef up the area around the main retracts and for years now, it has held up well.
Another aspect of CF is that, at what point is there too much CF (ie, as in making those plates out of CF) that would interfere with radio function and a receiver meant for CF must be used? It's in that area of those metal plates that I have my main RX and satellite. Just curious.

[Elbee]

I mentioned in the RCInformer F-14 thread that I used CF square rods to beef up the area around the main retracts and for years now, it has held up well.
Another aspect of CF is that, at what point is there too much CF (ie, as in making those plates out of CF) that would interfere with radio function and a receiver meant for CF must be used? It's in that area of those metal plates that I have my main RX and satellite. Just curious.

X,

I would think no more or no less than aluminum plate.

Aluminum is more conductive, but don't know for certain about more or less RF interference issues.

It seems reasonable to presume no differences.

Best, lB

[xviper]

X,

I would think no more or no less than aluminum plate.

Aluminum is more conductive, but don't know for certain about more or less RF interference issues.

It seems reasonable to presume no differences.

Best, lB

That, I can't say. A friend got a sailplane that was high in CF content this season and he was stressing about the need for a RX specifically meant for CF planes. He eventually went with a "normal" RX and didn't seem to have any issue.
As an example:

https://www.horizonhobby.com/product/dsmx-carbon-fiber-remote-receiver/SPM9746.html

[Elbee]

Interesting to say the least.

Faulty logic (FL) was almost my knick, but LB was closer to the truth. LMAO

[HairyTacco]

So it was a successful maiden flight on the 80mm Tomcat yesterday albeit in challenging conditions at the end! Looks so amazing in the air. I added centre burners and changed the ESC & EDF unit to the latest Freewing 80mm units. Had her setup with the RC Geeks setup (Tailerons, full span flaps and 'spoilers')..

When I lined up on the clubs runways the windsock was totally limp. By the time landing rolled around it was horizontal, kicking and a cross wind.. I felt personally attacked.. Brough her in with no flaps and a bit of slip and ended with a small bounce before settling. She just wanted to keep flying..

Looking forward to flying her in more amenable weather conditions so I can nail some nice landings..

Cheers,
HT

[Elbee]

So it was a successful maiden flight on the 80mm Tomcat yesterday albeit in challenging conditions at the end. I felt personally attacked.. Brought her in with no flaps and a bit of slip and ended with a small bounce before settling. She just wanted to keep flying..Cheers,
HT

Great debrief, beautiful model. Congrats, Sir.

Best, LB

[Elbee]

Hey All,

Does anyone own/know of a derelict or crashed Tomcat they'd be willing to part with for a reasonable amount?

I ask as I'd like to do some reverse engineering and use it as a workhorse for measurements, etc for my ARF+ project.

I'd pay shipping, of course.

Please, keep me in mind if you hear of one that's seen better days and is ready for the bin.

Best, LB

[EDF-Jetpilot]

Just finished up my F14 waiting on another AR10360t first one not working right to program ailerons ( wing ) to not operate when wings are in. For now just flying wings out hopefully any time I can sweep them in

Hi shortround91, Are you absolutely sure it's a fault in the receiver? If you're not a programming expert, like me, then it's quite possible the error lies in the programming itself... don't you think?

[EDF-Jetpilot]

Just finished up my F14 waiting on another AR10360t first one not working right to program ailerons ( wing ) to not operate when wings are in. For now just flying wings out hopefully any time I can sweep them in

Hi shortround91, Are you absolutely sure it's a fault in the receiver? If you're not a programming expert, like me, then it's quite possible the error lies in the programming itself... don't you think?
But your Tomcat is awesome, that has to be said!

[EDF-Jetpilot]

Just finished up my F14 waiting on another AR10360t first one not working right to program ailerons ( wing ) to not operate when wings are in. For now just flying wings out hopefully any time I can sweep them in

Are you really sure it's a fault in the receiver? If you're not a programming pro, like me, then it's quite possible the error is still in the programming... don't you think? But this Black Tomcat is awesome, I have to say!

[shortround91]

Hi shortround91, Are you absolutely sure it's a fault in the receiver? If you're not a programming expert, like me, then it's quite possible the error lies in the programming itself... don't you think?

Well when port 4 does nothing set up stock configuration and 4 other receivers were installed video’d showing H company I actually understand electronic programming yea the receiver has an issue. Sorry I was a Dyno Jet authorized trained operator have done electronics in the Army Yamaha Suzuki Kawasaki Honda of course all factory trained I’m not a MMI person. I think after setting up over 50 planes I’d understand when a port that is fixed doesn’t work. Yes port 4 is locked so how can you mess that one up. So thanks for the 😉 but this guy isn’t stupid either

[shortround91]

I actually still have the receiver if you’d like to buy it prove me wrong was strange that I purchased a new AR10360t+ and all the sudden everything worked. I do admit when I mess up including my first time setting up safe not knowing to go back in forward programming servo relearn. Was ugly my first EDF with retracts went up then straight down into the ground. Yup I messed up but honest enough to say it was me. Here’s the receiver again let it go half price 😁

[EDF-Jetpilot]

I actually still have the receiver if you’d like to buy it prove me wrong was strange that I purchased a new AR10360t+ and all the sudden everything worked. I do admit when I mess up including my first time setting up safe not knowing to go back in forward programming servo relearn. Was ugly my first EDF with retracts went up then straight down into the ground. Yup I messed up but honest enough to say it was me. Here’s the receiver again let it go half price 😁

Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to offend you... I couldn't have known how experienced you are. Anyway, this kind of thing has happened quite often, that it was a simple programming error, even to me. That's why I asked you the question. And by the way, I don't want a defective receiver, what do you think, not even at half price!

[shortround91]

Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to offend you... I couldn't have known how experienced you are. Anyway, this kind of thing has happened quite often, that it was a simple programming error, even to me. That's why I asked you the question. And by the way, I don't want a defective receiver, what do you think, not even at half price!

Yes was the weirdest thing no matter what wing configuration you put the receiver in port 4 did nothing, H Co had me plug in several servos again had to video upload everything to them. I did get upset after a month of going back and forth with them, all I wanted to do was send it in or sent a replacement. Then when it was on my dime to send in for warranty I go even more upset it came this way out of the package only receiver I’ve had any issues with. That why I never sent it back and don’t blame anyone why want a defective $200 receiver, I’ve been Spektrum since I got back into the hobby now flying 2 turbines working on a third. I apologize I’m still a little butt hurt over HH customer service took my comments a little far. Here’s a shot of my Avanti that I just fired up last night for the first time, just need the winds to calm a little before maiden time

[EDF-Jetpilot]

Yes was the weirdest thing no matter what wing configuration you put the receiver in port 4 did nothing, H Co had me plug in several servos again had to video upload everything to them. I did get upset after a month of going back and forth with them, all I wanted to do was send it in or sent a replacement. Then when it was on my dime to send in for warranty I go even more upset it came this way out of the package only receiver I’ve had any issues with. That why I never sent it back and don’t blame anyone why want a defective $200 receiver, I’ve been Spektrum since I got back into the hobby now flying 2 turbines working on a third. I apologize I’m still a little butt hurt over HH customer service took my comments a little far. Here’s a shot of my Avanti that I just fired up last night for the first time, just need the winds to calm a little before maiden time

Thanks for the message. No problem... yeah, that kind of thing can be annoying. I've been flying Spektrum for several years now and I'm very happy with it, no problems at all. The ASX3+ gyro software is absolutely top-notch and works really well! Do you also use a Spektrum gyro with your turbine? That doesn't work with the receiver's integrated gyro; it should only be done with the Spektrum Powersafe. Do you have any experience with that? By the way, that's a great painted Avanti! Ich denke, das passt aber nicht in diesen Thread.

[EDF-Jetpilot]

I just ordered a Freewing F-14 Twin 80mm: FREEWING F-14 TOMCAT TWIN 80MM EDF JET PNP Product No.: 9775302. I hope it's the latest updated version. According to the online sales description (Lindinger from Austria), it should have reverse thrust. I'm really excited and looking forward to it!
I will operate them with a Spektrum AR10360T (ASX3+) and bypass the standard gyro and control board for the control channels.

[Evan D]

Do you have a link?

On Motion-
There is no update to the 80. Still outrunners and non reversing ESCs going by the spare parts list.

Freewing 80mm F-14 Dual 80A ESC with 5A UBEC [031D002001] Motion RC

From Lindinger but there is no description and it says out of stock.

FREEWING


FREEWING F-14 TOMCAT Upgrade 80MM EDF JET PNP
Product number: 9815863
Manufacturer number: FJ30813P

€699.99*

[EDF-Jetpilot]

Do you have a link?

On Motion-
There is no update to the 80. Still outrunners and non reversing ESCs going by the spare parts list.

Freewing 80mm F-14 Dual 80A ESC with 5A UBEC [031D002001] Motion RC

From Lindinger but there is no description and it says out of stock.

FREEWING


FREEWING F-14 TOMCAT Upgrade 80MM EDF JET PNP
Product number: 9815863
Manufacturer number: FJ30813P

€699.99*

According to the text, it's the old version... but I don't really trust the sales texts, as they're often not updated. Here's the link: https://www.lindinger.at/de/Flugzeug...ET-PNP/9775302

[Evan D]

Thanks. Still has the out runners and I see what you mean by ESCs. Also says no longer available?

[kallend]

Yes was the weirdest thing no matter what wing configuration you put the receiver in port 4 did nothing, H Co had me plug in several servos again had to video upload everything to them. I did get upset after a month of going back and forth with them, all I wanted to do was send it in or sent a replacement. Then when it was on my dime to send in for warranty I go even more upset it came this way out of the package only receiver I’ve had any issues with. That why I never sent it back and don’t blame anyone why want a defective $200 receiver, I’ve been Spektrum since I got back into the hobby now flying 2 turbines working on a third. I apologize I’m still a little butt hurt over HH customer service took my comments a little far. Here’s a shot of my Avanti that I just fired up last night for the first time, just need the winds to calm a little before maiden time

Something that's handy when a receiver seems to be malfunctioning is a PWM pulse width meter. Plug it into the offending port and it will show you what signal is coming out of that port (including 'no signal'). I got mine from Aliexpress, it was about $5.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801748003852.html

[EDF-Jetpilot]

Thanks. Still has the out runners and I see what you mean by ESCs. Also says no longer available?

Yes, it seems it's just not available for the US... I bought one and it will be delivered normally – it's just my neighboring country after all. It should work, I've ordered from Lindinger there a few times before.