Official Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm Thread

[Charles]

I really worked hard on finding someone to help me to start to learn to fly with small planes he has been in the Lexington flying club for 40 years. He has a mig and he said he loves to fly it but said that there is no way that I could fly it for a long while. He is going to start working with me and I just have to order the right plane to start with flying.

[Evan D]

Thank you!

[SanExup]

Evan D that is a sweet DR-1 collection!

[Airguardian]

I second everything said.
Get the jet, but work your skills and confidence with some other aircraft first.
PC simulators are also your friends, they will allow you to speed up the learning process a lot, and they are still useful when you become a veteran pilot.

I usually recommend to begin with something like a glider, then transition to a cheap aerobatic prop plane (all foam).
This maximizes flight time (experience) by virtue of being easy to repair aircraft that also fly a lot of time (8-20 min compared to the 3-4 min of an EDF) at the cheapest cost possible.
Once you are confident flying aerobatics, you are good to go with jets. There are other ways, sure, 'many ways to skin a cat' as the saying goes, but if you want to be successful, it does pay off to work your way up 'smartly' instead of jumping straight to lesson ten. It's not impossible, but chances are you'll fail, waste money and time in the process, get frustrated and abandon the hobby. Which is the opposite of what the goal is, for you to fly and enjoy this fantastic bird! :D

So just arm yourself with a bit of patience and start enjoying and learning today, to prepare yourself for whatever it is you want to end up flying ^^

You’ve got this bird dialed in big time!!!

Well, there is still a lot of room for improvement, but we are finally coming to terms with each other, so to speak!

Good catch on landing number one.

Thanks!
Probably my slowest landing with this jet so far! :D

[Evan D]

Yes, if you really like something get it. You never know when it will be discontinued and odds are it would be more expensive next year. When I started RC I had to have a DR-1 Tri-plane, I had already had a free flight and a control line one. I bought the kit and it sat for 3-4 years before I built it and then another year until I flew it. I still have it, 44 years afterwards, still fly it occasionally..

[Charles]

Thank you for being honest with me I will get me a trainer plane and fly it for a while till I have a club member that has the ability to fly one of these planes and maybe then by next year I will be ready to learn to fly the mig I don’t want to not receive it when it comes I would like to keep it in the box till maybe next year I will then still have it and not be able to get one and loose the chance of being able to have one.. Thank you!

[SanExup]

Charles Buddy, don't do it. I say this, not because i think youre dumb but because i think you don't have the full picture to understand. Let me help you out of kindness.
This might be the worst first plane. Maybe the worst first EDF. Someone with low hours of flying would have trouble flying and landing the Mig in the best of conditions. If you have the money to potentially throw away, get an F22. Ideally the 64mm one. Fly that until your thumbs hurt.
A Mig 29 as a first plane won't last very long. It's not a personal judgment, its more of just plain fact for anyone.
Treat yourself right and learn on something less expensive and easier to fly. Most of us have. I still fly the easy ones, it's fun.

[GliderGuy]

Hi Charles,

Thanks for being up front. Others will hopefully chime in. The best advice is SLOW DOWN. Keep your desire to own a MiG, but you need to get some “other” EDF jet plane experience under your belt.

Use the experience of the experts as a guide. The worst thing you can do is buy a MiG and not have success.

As a first time plane, you will have a tiger by the tail. Big, heavy, fast, high alpha stall lock….all of this demands experience to handle.

Others hopefully will jump in and suggest a good solid EDF first jet to learn on and one that won’t bite you like the MiG can.

Also, consider locating and joining an RC club nearby. The instructors will offer good advice.

Good luck,
GG

[Charles]

Well sure I don’t mind telling you that info I know your just think that I am quite dumb or something else but I just want one and I do think that I am smart enough not to be sound arrogant or anything probably just more stupid than anything but I do not own a plane and this will be my first but I thought with a little help from the club I will eventually learn how to do it..

[Charles]

I have been investigating the thrust deal since you told me about it and I know that the red star comes out that way so I have been thinking about getting one of them I don’t think that I would feel comfortable in installing one on the mig that doesn’t have it on it . Thank you very much for letting me know about that and also sending me the video. Thank you!

[GliderGuy]

You’ve got this bird dialed in big time!!!

Good catch on landing number one.

-GG

[Airguardian]

[Airguardian]

w00t ^^

[Evan D]

Me either. Sticking how?

[Airguardian]

Not me!

[F2coffee]

Is anyone having problems with the elevator sticking on the mig-29 and what to do about it

[nuts-n-volts]

Absolutely loving this jet now.

After today's flights I may have gone the tiniest bit too far on the nozzle downthrust. At 1/4 power and level, jam the throttle and she consistently nosed only very slightly down. Now this is not a bad thing. However, I noted that I am carrying a little more up elevator on these flights. And, that's with lighter SMCs. Same CG. So, I'm wondering if I should try 2 degrees when I re-build with the new fuselage. 2 degrees should give me a straight line on the above test.

BTW, flying dead straight up, she only slowly starting leaning to her back as I lost airspeed. This is an indicator that I still need more downthrust. ...Re-thinking, maybe better left as is. She certainly has a locked in feel. Rolls are superb and very axial. Only needs the slightest touch of down on the invert. Definitely, a very agile jet.

[Airguardian]

Slowly getting more and more comfortable with the TVC upgrade on the MiG ^^

[nuts-n-volts]

This is an answer to the plane wanting to point it's nose up when slow and power added, getting into a vertical "dance" that many can't get out of. Yeah, it happened to me a couple years back! Jammed power on a go-around... well, there ya go!

So, I added ~3 degrees of down-thrust by removing the nozzles and sanding an angle into the front face on each. Test flew it today and was very pleased. It's pretty close. More flight tests to come. I couldn't help but notice how high the engines are set on the full-size (giving down-thrust). If you look at the humps back there, it is telling.

Freewing got it wrong by engineering intake/thrust tubes straight from the intakes to the exhausts. That and a few other things. I'm not bashing them. Just being honest. I can only imagine the thought process and engineering it takes to bring something like this to fuition. Hats off to 'em. It really is a nice jet.

[Evan D]

In addition to the manual you can look at the motion site, it lists where each servo goes. The 30g servos were upgrades that came out on the plane after the manual was printed so you'll see them mentioned more on the site and in the notes.


Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Red Star Twin 80mm EDF Jet with Thrust Vectoring - PNP [FJ31621P] Motion RC

2/3 of the way down the page "Servos".