Official Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm Thread

[dbirds2]

It is a heavy plane and the proper CG has plagued its performance. TV’s seems to help the alpha lock issue and Airgardian makes this plane perform well. I have one set of batteries that get the CG where I want it and I don’t do aerobatics with it, I just cruise. I get my fix doing aerobatics with my T-33 or L-39 and some with my F-4 or F-18. But like dbirds2 says it’s a tank.

I really hope they bring back the su 35 in its present eps foam. Im afraid Ive come to the end with edf jets. The mig 29 and f18 is the final nail in the coffin for me. I love my f22 and avanti and even my eflite 70mm f16 but theres no more available that I havent had nor interested in. I might venture off into a sab lizard jet with turbine motor for the ultimate flight experience.

[jetpltrich]

Hey bud I would suggest not adding the afterburners on this jet. Its a real big heavy pig as is. Im selling mine as its way too heavy for aerobatic flying. Im not A BIG FAN OF THE MIG 29. zeven with smc batteries its lacking. TAkes too much energy for the jet to perform on the smallest scale. For pilots thinking this is a alternate to the su 35 it is not. I dont know if there will be another su 35 or f22. Anyone looking to buy a mig 29. 5fights on it. I will sell it for 550 dollars and split the shipping. I really don't like it. For you scale guys its fine.

It is a heavy plane and the proper CG has plagued its performance. TV’s seems to help the alpha lock issue and Airgardian makes this plane perform well. I have one set of batteries that get the CG where I want it and I don’t do aerobatics with it, I just cruise. I get my fix doing aerobatics with my T-33 or L-39 and some with my F-4 or F-18. But like dbirds2 says it’s a tank.

[dbirds2]

Well Santa dropped a nice new Mig under the tree last night, so I spent most of the evening and today getting it sorted. I have all the wires plumbed and now the hard part.

Looking to start getting my receiver etc. wired in but wanted to ask about battery position re CG with both VT and AB installed. Anyone have a recommendation they can share?

Also, I did the AB with no exposed wires and lined both thrust tubes with 1.5mil mylar tape to make them smooth and retina burning reflective.

Hey bud I would suggest not adding the afterburners on this jet. Its a real big heavy pig as is. Im selling mine as its way too heavy for aerobatic flying. Im not A BIG FAN OF THE MIG 29. zeven with smc batteries its lacking. TAkes too much energy for the jet to perform on the smallest scale. For pilots thinking this is a alternate to the su 35 it is not. I dont know if there will be another su 35 or f22. Anyone looking to buy a mig 29. 5fights on it. I will sell it for 550 dollars and split the shipping. I really don't like it. For you scale guys its fine.

[xviper]

Thank you, they both look a bit off when eyeballed

On each nozzle, there are 2 small etched lines on the ball part of the nozzle. One line is for up/down alignment and the other is for left/right alignment. Use those for reference in a way that both nozzles have those lines at the same relative locations. Still "eyeballing" but at least you have a sort of guide. The nozzles don't absolutely need to be set exactly ON those lines but the lines help.

[ElCid]

I had to adjust sub trim and rods on mine. Not just on the TVs....

Thank you, they both look a bit off when eyeballed

[Evan D]

I had to adjust sub trim and rods on mine. Not just on the TVs....

[ElCid]

Question re TV, any adjustments needed re servo center or control rod lengths or is it set up correctly out of the box? This is for the TV kit not the red version.

[ElCid]

My left aileron does it ever so slightly. I had it bad on my Mig21. Flew a hundred flights or more lie that, sold it and it's still flying. When I sold it the person was worried and I said "trust me...".

But that said Motion should send you at least one if not a pair even if you decide not to use them.

New pair will be here tomorrow. A little chatter is fine but this is full on rumble.

[Evan D]

My left aileron does it ever so slightly. I had it bad on my Mig21. Flew a hundred flights or more lie that, sold it and it's still flying. When I sold it the person was worried and I said "trust me...".

But that said Motion should send you at least one if not a pair even if you decide not to use them.

[xviper]

What he said. ^^ I've actually flown a couple of planes with stuttering servo on one elevator side and I was lucky, it stopped doing it when there was moving air going past, as far as I could tell in a slow speed low fly by. It didn't make me feel totally comfortable but it never bit me in the butt. Once I changed them, I felt so much better. In one case, I added a small piece of thin foam in the space between the elevator front point and the fuselage next to it. It provided just enough friction to stop the stuttering. That was on my FlexJet. I think it's still flying like that.

[Evan D]

With a small amount of force it probably stops but I would get Motion to send replacements even if you do buy some yourself.

[ElCid]

So was wrapping up the Mig setup and i found one of my tail servos STB.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnPd9QnrRP2lo8czOJbH1k5pFrPObw?e=OgsWpB

Thoughts?

Not flying it this way, will pick up new tail servos.

[Evan D]

I did rewire it all to a 12ch receiver but kept the MCBe for lights and retracts. It’s off to the side in the back battery area.

[ElCid]

Those are 910g ea? Here is a pic of where I place my heavier batteries but they are much lighter 760g. I have flown with 830g ones but they where causing it to be a bit nose heavy for my flying. You would need yours further back, not sure they would fit with the canopy closed. I normally fly with two 645g 5200's.

Hi Evan, I notice no blue box, you rewire it all or just put everything under the aft.batter tray? On my F22 I did something similar, no blue box and everything stuffed under the tray.

[TGoelzer]

Can you help me out please? I can not find a good placement for the batteries Admiral 6000 50c) to balance this plane. Is it possible to ask if you could upload a pic of your battery placement in the plane? I really appreciate it my man!!! Merry Christmas!!

1st question do you have the red star mig or the camo version? The thrust vectoring nozzles will make a difference on where the batteries will need to be placed in the plane.

I'm running the SMC High Voltage batteries (5300mah 75C 6S) which weigh in at 731 gr.

I'm using the rear and front battery compartments. Rear is sorta irrelevant. But the front is what counts. With my setup. I'm positioning the battery on the very front edge of the wood tray. She CG's neutral (sits completely flat and level)

I have tried some spektrum 5000mah 50C 6S batteries (760 gr), but had a hard time getting the CG neutral with those batteries. Still working on it. So I don't really have and answer for you on those batteries.

The Admiral 6000mah 50C 6S batteries weigh in at 910 gr. which in my opinion are probably a bit too heavy for this plane?'

I would suggest trying a smaller battery and just keep playing with it. You'll find the sweet spot.

I would send you a picture. But I won't be able to do it until Sunday.

Also as already suggested, you may need to carve out some of the foam on the canopy to fit the bigger batteries and get it to CG

[Evan D]

I'm not sure he has the red star version or an older one with TVs but assuming he does I think those will be both too heavy and too large. When you move that battery back on the center battery spot the room under the canopy gets small fast. If he doesn't have TVs he really will have difficulty.

Please don't balance your plane tail heavier than the marks under the wing. Those marks are okay for a first flight but you'll probably want to move your balance point aft after those first flights.

[xviper]

Can you help me out please? I can not find a good placement for the batteries Admiral 6000 50c) to balance this plane. Is it possible to ask if you could upload a pic of your battery placement in the plane? I really appreciate it my man!!! Merry Christmas!!

You seem a little frantic. TGoelzer isn't online right now. He's not seeing your posts no matter many you do. You might PM him with your request and he'll get to you when he's able.
I don't recall him ever mentioning what kinds of batteries he's using. You are trying to use some very heavy, large batteries (Admiral 6000s). Like Evan said, it's not likely you'll be able to make those fit and be able to close the canopy (or be able to easily balance the plane) so seeing how TG does it may not help you. I fly mine with CNHL 5000s that weight about 800g and I'm just barely able to close the canopy. I will be flying this plane next season with some very light 6000mah, Coddar HV batteries and 5300mah, HV SMCs that should fit quite well and also provide just a little bit more voltage for more punch.
As per Evan's picture, you will have to use the rear compartment and the one on the upper shelf (middle). It may be necessary for you to carve some foam out of the canopy so it'll close.

[Evan D]

Those are 910g ea? Here is a pic of where I place my heavier batteries but they are much lighter 760g. I have flown with 830g ones but they where causing it to be a bit nose heavy for my flying. You would need yours further back, not sure they would fit with the canopy closed. I normally fly with two 645g 5200's.

[Look ma, no trim]

Flew it without Missiles. I've heard from a friend that owns the digital camo. That it just flies a little slower with the missiles attached. No other difference on how it flies.

Can you help me out please? I can not find a good placement for the batteries Admiral 6000 50c) to balance this plane. Is it possible to ask if you could upload a pic of your battery placement in the plane? I really appreciate it my man!!! Merry Christmas!!

[Look ma, no trim]

Maiden the Red Star Mig today. Very easy to see with red and blue scheme.

Flew it without thrust vectoring. Few clicks of up elevator and right aileron and she was locked in without a Gyro.

Very good looking plane in the air or on the ground. Received a lot of compliments!

Next flight coming with thrust vectoring!

How did you do the battery placement? I'm flying the admiral 6000 50c and I cant find a good balancing position w/batteries..Could you shoot a pic of your battery compartment please?