Official Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm Thread

[Evan D]

I get 5 1/2 on 5200's. I have flown with 830g 6000's but prefer the lighter feel with the 645g 5200. With the 5200 I use the front and rear bay. With 6000 the middle and aft. BUT that all depends on the set up and batteries you will use. I moved everything as far aft as possible and do use a balance a bit behind the CG marks.

I did put it up for sale (everything is for sale at the right price) but didn't get any reasonable offers. I do fly it still but it is nowhere near a favorite. Others at my field do like it when I fly it as it's got a big presence in the air and does great flips, flat spins and "post stall maneuvers".

Thanks for the replies guys. I will opt for the TVs then. The grey does look nicer but the red is cool! What flight times are you getting with mixed throttle use on 5000s and 6000s? Also on motion rc vid, James puts the battery on the front tray whith VT installed but is it still best to use centre and aft tray?

[Donjay25]

Since there is a TV option I wouldn't fly this without it. I can see it fine but I know others have difficulty tracking an all gray plane or even a mostly gray one, the Gripen being a good example.

I vaguely remember you mentioning you were selling yours previously(I could have gotten that wrong). Do you still enjoy flying it and is it a plane you’d look forward to flying. Just trying to gauge the style of plane that it is. For example I enjoy flying the freewing Venum, good speed, it can cruise, decent flight time 4-6 minutes and is stable etc.

[Donjay25]

Thanks for the replies guys. I will opt for the TVs then. The grey does look nicer but the red is cool! What flight times are you getting with mixed throttle use on 5000s and 6000s? Also on motion rc vid, James puts the battery on the front tray whith VT installed but is it still best to use centre and aft tray?

[dbirds2]

Jetman, that is a lovely plane and incredibly impressive.

Hi all, I’ve have gotten round to reading the entire thread. I am looking to getting the Mig 29, however I see they have released a model that comes inclusive of thrust vectoring which is cheaper than purchasing separately. Considering the alpha lock situation, I understand that the TV could help. Is the TVA big step up from standard edf flight? Also is the grey paint chrome hard to track? I’ve never flown a large jet but own and fly the FMS Futura, freewing venom, freewing 70mm f17 and e flite A10. Could this be the next progression? Thanks all-Jay.

personally I would say the mig 29 is more scary cause its size and weight but actualy flying and landing is imho easier to handle thaan the futura, venom and aa10. You will have no issues. THe gray is hard to see but the jet moves fairly slow through the sky. You will be fine.

[Evan D]

Since there is a TV option I wouldn't fly this without it. I can see it fine but I know others have difficulty tracking an all gray plane or even a mostly gray one, the Gripen being a good example.

[Donjay25]

Jetman, that is a lovely plane and incredibly impressive.

Hi all, I’ve have gotten round to reading the entire thread. I am looking to getting the Mig 29, however I see they have released a model that comes inclusive of thrust vectoring which is cheaper than purchasing separately. Considering the alpha lock situation, I understand that the TV could help. Is the TVA big step up from standard edf flight? Also is the grey paint chrome hard to track? I’ve never flown a large jet but own and fly the FMS Futura, freewing venom, freewing 70mm f17 and e flite A10. Could this be the next progression? Thanks all-Jay.

[t33jetman]

i have now watched all your mig videos on Youtube. have to say, i am impressed. i did the door mod with landinglights as well but I'm not sure where to put the servos. you have put yours into the fuselage, do you have no interference with the battery and the servo horns?
i appreciate your work sir!!! thanks for sharing your knowledge :)!

Thank you .
Your placement of the servo will work.
I put mine just on the inside and used a cable to pull the door closed.

[da_matae]

i have now watched all your mig videos on Youtube. have to say, i am impressed. i did the door mod with landinglights as well but I'm not sure where to put the servos. you have put yours into the fuselage, do you have no interference with the battery and the servo horns?
i appreciate your work sir!!! thanks for sharing your knowledge :)!

[t33jetman]

absolutely astonishing! what a piece of art!

Thank you sir.
My mods where :
scale canopy
Speed brakes
Parachute
Scale landing lights 3
leading edge slats
Revits
Aux air intakes
Scale landing doors
Working camera
After burners

[da_matae]

I did all the mods you are wanting and build pictures , check them out at my Facebook page...FANS OF WILLIAM JACKSON CUSTOM RC PLANES, or my YOUTUBE channel for videos WILLIAM JACKSON CUSTOM RC PLANES.

absolutely astonishing! what a piece of art!

[t33jetman]

hey folks!
winter season has started and i started working on some mods (geardoors with lights, acl, position lights, aux inlets, airbrakes, fiberglassing, and hopefully a new paint scheme)
has anybody done one or another of those mods. cheers!

I did all the mods you are wanting and build pictures , check them out at my Facebook page...FANS OF WILLIAM JACKSON CUSTOM RC PLANES, or my YOUTUBE channel for videos WILLIAM JACKSON CUSTOM RC PLANES.

[xviper]

I just saw this video on YouTube and took a look especially on the landing between 5:00 and 5:18:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5NHYSSDA5Y

The landing approach is not fast; at 5:06 the pilot calls "flaps down" (this means it is not the scenario "flying full speed with flaps down"). At about 5:14 one could see a sudden nose down of the MiG. The pilot accelerates (one can hear the EDF go up) and could prevent a crash.

Now I wonder why the MiG all of a sudden put the nose down...? The speed was ok, for me it was a normal landing approach. Was he too slow and was the CG too much forward? Is there a problem with flying at cruise speed with flaps down? Or was the sudden dive a deliberate steering from the pilot and not the MiG itself?

When he deployed flaps, the plane still flew well in the short time afterwards. It wasn't till he was close to touch down that it dove. I think he misjudged the landing approach angle and also the plane got too slow and made the elevators ineffective. At that speed and the fact this is a fairly heavy airplane, with full flaps, the elevators may have been blanked out, nosed down and hit the ground hard. I don't think it's a good idea to have such a steep angle of attack on approach, at that speed and that close to the runway. So, in that sense, it wasn't a "normal" landing approach (for this plane). I find this plane needs a "planned" approach, where it comes in on a long, shallow descent, with flaps and some throttle, nose slightly UP and decreasing altitude to the runway by regulating throttle, nose coming up more and more prior to touchdown.

[GliderGuy]

I just saw this video on YouTube and took a look especially on the landing between 5:00 and 5:18:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5NHYSSDA5Y

The landing approach is not fast; at 5:06 the pilot calls "flaps down" (this means it is not the scenario "flying full speed with flaps down"). At about 5:14 one could see a sudden nose down of the MiG. The pilot accelerates (one can hear the EDF go up) and could prevent a crash.

Now I wonder why the MiG all of a sudden put the nose down...? The speed was ok, for me it was a normal landing approach. Was he too slow and was the CG too much forward? Is there a problem with flying at cruise speed with flaps down? Or was the sudden dive a deliberate steering from the pilot and not the MiG itself?

Most perplexing!

In over 3,000 flights, my MiG-29 never did that. Typically, a set-up on final would be with 25% power (or a bit less), flaps, and eventually into a slight nose-up attitude settling into ground effect...then ease off the throttle for touch down. She's a floater, but needs the CG to be aft of the marks as noted in several prior posts.

What ended her life was the deep stall / alpha lock at too low of an altitude to recover. I didn't have thrust vectoring....and should have. UGH.

-GG

[sunbeam]

I just saw this video on YouTube and took a look especially on the landing between 5:00 and 5:18:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5NHYSSDA5Y

The landing approach is not fast; at 5:06 the pilot calls "flaps down" (this means it is not the scenario "flying full speed with flaps down"). At about 5:14 one could see a sudden nose down of the MiG. The pilot accelerates (one can hear the EDF go up) and could prevent a crash.

Now I wonder why the MiG all of a sudden put the nose down...? The speed was ok, for me it was a normal landing approach. Was he too slow and was the CG too much forward? Is there a problem with flying at cruise speed with flaps down? Or was the sudden dive a deliberate steering from the pilot and not the MiG itself?

[dbirds2]

Go grab an 80mm Mirage!

I just took a look. MIrage looks to be much better at performance than this dang mig 29 or f18

[dbirds2]

Just pulled the trigger on the sab m138 lizard laminated fiber glass pack jet with option for turbine power. Sab makes high quality helis And from the looks of it and talking to some world class heli pilots this jet from sab is freaking incredible. Cant wait to put this together. Anyone wanting a new mig 29 price is 550 and I will cover shipping. Also still trying to sell the f18 blue angel livery. 300 for that

[nuts-n-volts]

There's a reason they call them "smack"!

[xviper]

Nah. He should stick to his smack 3D helos.

[Evan D]

Nah. He should stick to his smack 3D helos.

[JamesonC]

I really hope they bring back the su 35 in its present eps foam. Im afraid Ive come to the end with edf jets. The mig 29 and f18 is the final nail in the coffin for me. I love my f22 and avanti and even my eflite 70mm f16 but theres no more available that I havent had nor interested in. I might venture off into a sab lizard jet with turbine motor for the ultimate flight experience.

Go grab an 80mm Mirage!