Official Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm Thread

[Evan D]

Everyone is different. I taught myself how to fly helos on a bet with two brothers I worked with at the hobby shop, that I could learn to fly a helo before they could learn to fly an airplane. Supposedly they were ace helo pilots. I bought a used Kyosho SE from one of them and took it home and set it up “switchless” which was new at the time.

Went to the local helo hang out Thursday after work and learned to hover with sticks and balls. Friday I was walking the dog and doing lazy eights. Went out Saturday early with a new gallon of fuel. The brothers and a few other experts were there. Pulled out the helo, no sticks and did forward flight.

Sunday I was doing loops and rolls. And some short term inverted and pirouettes.

Later I found out the brothers could hover but that was it.

How’s your MiG?

actually I doubt that. skilled helicopter pilots are even more anal repulsive than plankers. goes with the territory as flying choppers is the by far the most skilled hobby in the world hands down. Most give up and go to planes or drones. Took me almost one year to forward flight on a heli on a jet it took me 2 times to fly and land

[dbirds2]

So santa is bringing me a mig on the 25th with all the trimmings. Was thinking it might be much easier to mount the TV as the first step of the build, knowing nothing will be attached to the fus at that time. Can someone share with me a recomendation or a picture of how you ran your TV wires? i would prefer them all to be internal if possible but NOT in the thrust tubes.

Thanks

would you like a picture of the factory location thats on the red mig

[dbirds2]

Sooo... I think almost all of us here know the difference. That's why we were talkin' 'bout a scale jet on a scale jet forum. But, do go on.

actually I doubt that. skilled helicopter pilots are even more anal repulsive than plankers. goes with the territory as flying choppers is the by far the most skilled hobby in the world hands down. Most give up and go to planes or drones. Took me almost one year to forward flight on a heli on a jet it took me 2 times to fly and land

[da_matae]

hey folks!
winter season has started and i started working on some mods (geardoors with lights, acl, position lights, aux inlets, airbrakes, fiberglassing, and hopefully a new paint scheme)
has anybody done one or another of those mods. cheers!

[xviper]

Thank you, so that confirms there is enough wiggle room where the elevator servo lead goes to fit in a few more leads!

You'll need a "fish" and be careful not to slice the elevator wires. (I didn't take any pictures on that occasion but it will become self evident once you test fit the nozzles and see where the leads have to go.)

[ElCid]

I cut a small plug out near where the nozzle servo leads come out and followed the same channel used by the elevator servo leads, then glued the plug back in.

Thank you, so that confirms there is enough wiggle room where the elevator servo lead goes to fit in a few more leads! Would you mind posting a snap of the surgery sight if you have one?

[ElCid]

I believe I did post mine in the RCG thread. I was one of the first adopters... I just looked there and don't see my pictures. They may be in this thread. Don't forget to consider stronger stab horn attachment, higher Guage extensions and other upgrades/ mods too.

Here is Pats. RC Groups - View Single Post - Freewing Mig-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm

Thanks Evan, I found that post but was hoping for some pictures. When i directed Santa to buy the Mig i also added the upgraded parts list you highlighted, so it's all here waiting until the 25th :D.

[xviper]

I cut a small plug out near where the nozzle servo leads come out and followed the same channel used by the elevator servo leads, then glued the plug back in.

[Evan D]

I believe I did post mine in the RCG thread. I was one of the first adopters... I just looked there and don't see my pictures. They may be in this thread. Don't forget to consider stronger stab horn attachment, higher Guage extensions and other upgrades/ mods too.

Here is Pats. RC Groups - View Single Post - Freewing Mig-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm

[ElCid]

So santa is bringing me a mig on the 25th with all the trimmings. Was thinking it might be much easier to mount the TV as the first step of the build, knowing nothing will be attached to the fus at that time. Can someone share with me a recomendation or a picture of how you ran your TV wires? i would prefer them all to be internal if possible but NOT in the thrust tubes.

Thanks

[nuts-n-volts]

Sooo... I think almost all of us here know the difference. That's why we were talkin' 'bout a scale jet on a scale jet forum. But, do go on.

[dbirds2]

There's a big difference between a flyer scale, 3d and smack 3d flying with helis. I don't know nothing about scale so I won't pretend and comment but Tareq alsaddi would be a smack pilot and maybe Duncan and the rest would be 3d on the pro circuit.

[dbirds2]

Foam jets are just that foam. Not very top of the line no matter how you cut it. They are cheap, fun and do the job. Precision!!! O not really. I crash and that's all she wrote for that foam plane. I move on or buy a new one. Scale on a foam jet!!! Lol. Exactly why lightweight, low drag, thrust vectoring with some power is much more fun than scale flying. I would rather go watch birds than fly scale anything.

[ElCid]

And I agree with you saying "I think this simply a case where they bolted on too much power to attract a specific segment of the hobby and exceeded the limitations of the air frame.". But that wasn't the point of my childish, low number of years, inexperienced opinion.

Please recall you concluded with your comment to my original post, I mearly responded in kind. It is very hard to infer intent in a forum, but at least we have found common ground and can move on.

[Evan D]

And I agree with you saying "I think this simply a case where they bolted on too much power to attract a specific segment of the hobby and exceeded the limitations of the air frame.". But that wasn't the point of my childish, low number of years, inexperienced opinion.

[Evan D]

Thanks for making it personal. Here are some pictures of planes I have that I would not fly in a full throttle high speed pass. I have or have had others but unfortunately don't have pictures available to post. They are simply not designed to do so. If, with all your vast experience and certifications, can't understand this, I'm sorry. I assume I don't need to put in a picture of the Apprentice or Timber.

I agree there are very few companies that have such a disclaimer. We should all be aware of limitations our aircraft have.

[ElCid]

Not sure why that is concerning. Everyone flying high performance aircraft, 3D, etc plus most general aircraft should understand that an airframe has limitations. Even an Apprentice or Timber.

I disagree completely, but you are entitled to your opinion.

I have all sorts of aircraft ( Props, Turbines, EDF, Scale and 3D helis and drones) and have been doing this hobby for 30+ years and this is the first time i have ever seen a disclaimer on an aircraft website about potential structural failure dong something as simple as a high speed pass.

I also have my PPL/IFR and FAA 107 certs as well.

all air frames do have limitation but they are usually reached when the aircraft deparst from normal flight, has poor construction, maintenance, age or suffered prior damage. If you check their other similar aircraft, the Pro version, it has no such disclaimers.

I think this simply a case where they bolted on too much power to attract a specific segment of the hobby and exceeded the limitations of the air frame.

BTW I found your "Apprentice or Timber" comment childish but humorous.

[Evan D]

Not sure why that is concerning. Everyone flying high performance aircraft, 3D, etc plus most general aircraft should understand that an airframe has limitations. Even an Apprentice or Timber.

[ElCid]

Who could call it a F16?? Clearly takes some cues from the T50 though!

i would be more concerned about the disclamer on the Flexjet ordering page... is this a good design? Buy our plane but dont do this because our design wasnt robust enought.... it feels like they bolted a V8 on a lawn mower.

"The FlexJet TV has approximately 90% more power than the original FlexJet while remaining very lightweight. This excess power is intended for up-lines and post-stall (3D) maneuvers ONLY. Because of this, the pilot is required to limit the speed of the aircraft and the G-load on the aircraft.

• Powered dives are not permitted
• Extended level flight at full throttle is not permitted
• High-Speed and/or High-G maneuvers are not permitted
• Flying in wind speeds or gusts greater than 20mph (32km/h) is not permitted

Over-speeding or over-stressing the aircraft can result in structural failure and a crash, which may also cause property damage or injury.
"

[xviper]

edit: smack 3D helo flyer…

I know what a "flyer" is. I know what a "helo flyer" is. I know what a "3D helo flyer" is. What exactly is a "smack 3D helo flyer"? Has it got something to do with what Will Smith did to Chris Rock? Does it have anything to do with "kissing"? Is it related to heroin? Is he licking something and tasting it? A fishing boat? Is it a way of talking? Anything to do with an epileptic seizure?