Official Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm Thread

[dbirds2]

You're right. I've noticed that about him - not a nice person. I have a FlexJet and I know what it is. It is NOT an F-16. I'll not respond to him again either. (I'm wondering who dbird1 was and if he got banned before.)

I trust my buddies opinion on the flex jet more than you, why? cause hes one of the best 3d heli pilots in the world and we use foam planes and jets as a escape from the contest style practice of 3d flying which is by far the most difficult hobby in the world, using the best precision equipment made. you attack me and you get attack back. Sure i state my opinion on some jets I do not like but I would never ever jump on someone elses happyness for what they like, I will leave that stuff up to you, your good at it. lol

[dbirds2]

With his posts and answers he's made to my replies here and the F/A-18C thread I've stopped responding to Mr Bird.

you boys on the high horse from hell what a joke. Ive read many of your responses to others and most are not from a place of kindness, but from a place my way or the highway and xviper youur the worst. airgurdian asks me about the batteries I use aand I say thunder power and you have to be little the choice of batteries, taking a very narrow minded response. I dont remember asing you about my battery choice. However if you could fly smack 3d helis you would know they rock. Try it someday it may humble you a little.

[xviper]

Can't we all.

[Evan D]

He may be a great person. Just I find it difficult to communicate with him... But then I know I can be difficult too.

[xviper]

With his posts and answers he's made to my replies here and the F/A-18C thread I've stopped responding to Mr Bird.

You're right. I've noticed that about him - not a nice person. I have a FlexJet and I know what it is. It is NOT an F-16. I'll not respond to him again either. (I'm wondering who dbird1 was and if he got banned before.)

[T-CAT]

On the new Red Star livery of this MiG-29, are the white areas painted white or are they bare foam?

[Evan D]

With his posts and answers he's made to my replies here and the F/A-18C thread I've stopped responding to Mr Bird.

I don't think Flex makes an F-16 with TV. The one they do make is $8000.00 and is a turbine.

[dbirds2]

I don't think Flex makes an F-16 with TV. The one they do make is $8000.00 and is a turbine.

its not a scale f16 its a flex jet 90mm with thrust vectoring. kinda looks like a f16 tbirds. its pretty cool looking

[xviper]

my buddy in florida just bought the 90mm f16 with thrust vectoring from them and he says its the best jet ever witth 8s performance

I don't think Flex makes an F-16 with TV. The one they do make is $8000.00 and is a turbine.

[dbirds2]

I tried 6,8,10 and 12 in my F-22 went back to 8s Jetfan set up. But I added TVs too.

I liked the 8s for trickery flying but it was just a little lacking on thrust. I even went onto 9s which was great but went with a even 10s which is good fro thrust aand speed but okay fro trickery as it creates so much power and weight it takes forever for plane to settle down

[Evan D]

I tried 6,8,10 and 12 in my F-22 went back to 8s Jetfan set up. But I added TVs too.

[dbirds2]

Can you post a picture of your chiseled out battery area please? The area is so big as it is and I easily fit 10 and 12S in mine. Plus the side walls are not that thick to allow much removal.


On the MiG-29, the plane itself is very large and heavy. I don't think specifically lighter fans will help but as you note lighter and more efficient may. Jet Fan or other high end carbon shroud fans with efficient fans but that would be expensive on an already costly (and in my opinion not that great flying) plane.

Like I said im second guessing my purchase, kinda got thrown into it after I was told su35 is no longer made. I will give it a try with new fans and ssome hotter 2100kv motors. I doubt I will like it. I think ive come to a dead end in regards to edf jets. JUst stick with my f22 and avanti. The f22 is fast on 10s but it was much more aerobatic on 6s but it was a dog on thrust. No way to beat it i tried. The avanti is bad ass for just turning and burning, really cool jet to fly. I wish there was some other options forr performance trick jets. Im sitting on a new f18 blue angels that nobody wants to buy, that was a waste of money for me and I hope the mig 29 doesnt dissapoint. Ive really been turning my attention to large 3d planes from flex innovations, super nice large and powerful planes and my buddy in florida just bought the 90mm f16 with thrust vectoring from them and he says its the best jet ever witth 8s performance

[TangoVector]

Here's an idea for all you performance-hungry Mig-29 owners: Cut away the old engine pods under the wings and 3D-print new, slightly larger thin walled engine pods, all the way from the inlet to the exhaust, making room for a 90mm system with thrust numbers at 8.8kg/10.6kg with the new V2 Freewing 6S/8S system

[Evan D]

Can you post a picture of your chiseled out battery area please? The area is so big as it is and I easily fit 10 and 12S in mine. Plus the side walls are not that thick to allow much removal.


On the MiG-29, the plane itself is very large and heavy. I don't think specifically lighter fans will help but as you note lighter and more efficient may. Jet Fan or other high end carbon shroud fans with efficient fans but that would be expensive on an already costly (and in my opinion not that great flying) plane.

[dbirds2]

THE F22 IS A GREEAT FLYING JET. I didnt really like it until I chiseled out alot of foam from inside to make rrom for 10s batteries. Now I like it. I have the new mig 29 0n the way but now im scond guessing the rather expensive thrust vectoring plane. Im really bummed about the su35 being scraped. Still my favorite jet for all around fun. Big mistake for freewing to not update the su35 remake the molds and release another lightweight eps foam jet. Nothing on the market competes with the su35 for all around performance and fun. Going to have to lighten up the mig 29, ditch the missile junk, cut lots of foam out from where I can and replace those fans with some lighter more efficient fans.

[TangoVector]

"a lot of you have both the Mig 29 and the F22, so my question is of course: If you had to get rid of one, which one is staying and why?"

I have 27 so obviously I know better between the MiG and F-22... :) But, yes the S-35, which is rumored to now be discontinued and not just out of stock, is a great plane. But that wasn't the question.

I'm thankful for the answers I've gotten and since I'm not interested in getting both at this time, the F22 will probably find its way to my garage quite soon. I'm in the process of assembling my second Su35, with a third still in the box, both "ARF-" with only landing gear installed from the days when Hobbyking carried it.

Thanks again and now back to the regular programming.

[Evan D]

"a lot of you have both the Mig 29 and the F22, so my question is of course: If you had to get rid of one, which one is staying and why?"

I have 27 so obviously I know better between the MiG and F-22... :) But, yes the S-35, which is rumored to now be discontinued and not just out of stock, is a great plane. But that wasn't the question.


Interesting you don't answer the original but complain when others don't...

F-22 is fine, but if I had to get rid of all but one of my jets (I have 19) the one I'd keep is the Sukhoi 35.

[kallend]

My Mig is in a box waiting for Dec 25th so i don't have a data point. I will say i have the F4, A10 and F22 and to me the F22 is one of the best flying planes (not just jets) I have ever owned. You can fly it like a wild man or like a cub. One of the few jets i would say a jet novice can fly and build confidence with.

F-22 is fine, but if I had to get rid of all but one of my jets (I have 19) the one I'd keep is the Sukhoi 35.

[ElCid]

Tobias,

I have both and I can say the F-22 is better hands down. It has a better flight profile, flies great from 6S to 12S (I have 12S in mine), and is a breeze to land. The Mig is a great flyer, but you have to be careful not to get into alpha lock.

My Mig is in a box waiting for Dec 25th so i don't have a data point. I will say i have the F4, A10 and F22 and to me the F22 is one of the best flying planes (not just jets) I have ever owned. You can fly it like a wild man or like a cub. One of the few jets i would say a jet novice can fly and build confidence with.

[ElCid]

The Mig-29 Red Star is on the way to Motion RC. They are already on the water. We have the version which includes Thrust Vectoring on the way. The customer service team is great at supporting customers with existing products but they they have no knowledge of what new products are on the way to Motion RC. I work with Freewing directly on all the ordering and I generally keep what I've ordered to myself (loose lips sink ships, etc). 🤣 I'd like to do a pre-order to figure out the level of interest. It is an expensive plane since this is the version which has thrust vectoring included. Given the livery of the plane, I figured thrust vectoring is a must on this livery. As soon as Alpha can get me some pictures, we will start a pre-order. If the first batch runs out, I'll order more. clear as mud?

My wife picked up a digital camo one for me with the thrust vectoring kit and its sitting wrapped waiting for Christmas. I am wondering if i should just return the plane and the TV kit and wait to get this one.