Official Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm Thread

[dbirds2]

No, it is not a fact. Lots of things have more diffcult learning curves.

ya no. Name one rc hobby thats more difficult to learn than rc helis. Its by far the most difficult. thats why most who try faiil and move on to planes drones or walk away. By hobby I mean rc hobby. Helis is no way near the difficulty of learning to wheelie a liter bike at 100mph

[Evan D]

We have all found that you can not simply power out of the alpha lock. If you do not have TV cut the throttle and hope you have enough altitude for the nose t drop on it's own. With TV you can get out but the extra thrust probably won't help that much.

There may be others that have tried the 2000, I just remember Hugh and he did the 2100's.

[ElCid]

I know some have used the older 2100kv. If you search the post here and especially at RCG you'll find them. It's an expensive proposition. I assume if you are going to do it you'll add the combo with reversing ESC?

When I bought mine I had two JF/HET 8S set ups I considered using. I never did. One it has decent power stock. I don't need this plane to hover. Two it was already crazy expensive and the new fans would about double the over all price. I ended up with one of the fans in one of my Gripens.

Agreed, was just looking to see if it was an option someone had tried. I have zero desire to hover this but that extra 1kg could be usefully if you get stuck in an High Alpha, but the VT should be good enough to get out of that situation regardless.

[kallend]

MAYBE.. The learning curve is much more steep to fly rc helis than any other hobby period. Its just a fact.

No, it is not a fact. Lots of things have more diffcult learning curves.

[Evan D]

I know some have used the older 2100kv. If you search the post here and especially at RCG you'll find them. It's an expensive proposition. I assume if you are going to do it you'll add the combo with reversing ESC?

When I bought mine I had two JF/HET 8S set ups I considered using. I never did. One it has decent power stock. I don't need this plane to hover. Two it was already crazy expensive and the new fans would about double the over all price. I ended up with one of the fans in one of my Gripens.

[ElCid]

I have see several posts about a lack of disposable thrust :D with this plane. Has anyone looked at dropping in 2 x FMS 80mm 12 Blade 2000Kv Special Metal EDF For 6S? Based on the stats I have found in various places these are 3.4/3.5 Kg of thrust each vs the stock 9 blade fans that are 3kg of thrust each. Thats roughly 1kg of thrust more than stock to play around with.

[ElCid]

My Mig is sitting by the tree wrapped up with a bow on it. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas morning. I think my wife put it out early just to get me going.

[dbirds2]

What's funny is I started on Helis and have several scale and 3D helis (12s and Jetcat powered). Flying these EDF jets scares the crap out of me every time, but i don't break a sweat on the Helis. I really think it come down to what you learned on.
My F4 gives me a heart attack every time I fly it, but I do feel such a sense of accomplishment when I land it without issue. I can do hurricanes with my Mikado 800 XXTREME all day and it's like a walk in the park.

MAYBE.. The learning curve is much more steep to fly rc helis than any other hobby period. Its just a fact. Come from a 3d heli hobby and your flying planes very quickly if not instantly. Coming from planker hobby to heli hobby and your learning from the start. Rc pilot skills is a perishable skill and perishable with age. Thats why you dont see seniors flying 3d helis. I ahd to quit helis due to vertigo. I like 3d planes and jets with thrust vectoring. Keeps it interesting. I would be bored with scale flying. Btw MIG 29 IS WAITING TO FLY BUT WEATHER HASNT ALLOWED THAT DAY YET. Im not overly impressed with the red mig 29 its very heavy and the thrust nozzles dont have wide travel. Its cool but no su35 that for sure. I might sell it if it dont produce. Im kinda leaning towards the 3d planes nowadays and got my eyes set on the flex mamba 120

[ElCid]

actually I doubt that. skilled helicopter pilots are even more anal repulsive than plankers. goes with the territory as flying choppers is the by far the most skilled hobby in the world hands down. Most give up and go to planes or drones. Took me almost one year to forward flight on a heli on a jet it took me 2 times to fly and land

What's funny is I started on Helis and have several scale and 3D helis (12s and Jetcat powered). Flying these EDF jets scares the crap out of me every time, but i don't break a sweat on the Helis. I really think it come down to what you learned on.
My F4 gives me a heart attack every time I fly it, but I do feel such a sense of accomplishment when I land it without issue. I can do hurricanes with my Mikado 800 XXTREME all day and it's like a walk in the park.

[ElCid]

would you like a picture of the factory location thats on the red mig

I would LOVE one

Thank you

[Evan D]

Everyone is different. I taught myself how to fly helos on a bet with two brothers I worked with at the hobby shop, that I could learn to fly a helo before they could learn to fly an airplane. Supposedly they were ace helo pilots. I bought a used Kyosho SE from one of them and took it home and set it up “switchless” which was new at the time.

Went to the local helo hang out Thursday after work and learned to hover with sticks and balls. Friday I was walking the dog and doing lazy eights. Went out Saturday early with a new gallon of fuel. The brothers and a few other experts were there. Pulled out the helo, no sticks and did forward flight.

Sunday I was doing loops and rolls. And some short term inverted and pirouettes.

Later I found out the brothers could hover but that was it.

How’s your MiG?

actually I doubt that. skilled helicopter pilots are even more anal repulsive than plankers. goes with the territory as flying choppers is the by far the most skilled hobby in the world hands down. Most give up and go to planes or drones. Took me almost one year to forward flight on a heli on a jet it took me 2 times to fly and land

[dbirds2]

So santa is bringing me a mig on the 25th with all the trimmings. Was thinking it might be much easier to mount the TV as the first step of the build, knowing nothing will be attached to the fus at that time. Can someone share with me a recomendation or a picture of how you ran your TV wires? i would prefer them all to be internal if possible but NOT in the thrust tubes.

Thanks

would you like a picture of the factory location thats on the red mig

[dbirds2]

Sooo... I think almost all of us here know the difference. That's why we were talkin' 'bout a scale jet on a scale jet forum. But, do go on.

actually I doubt that. skilled helicopter pilots are even more anal repulsive than plankers. goes with the territory as flying choppers is the by far the most skilled hobby in the world hands down. Most give up and go to planes or drones. Took me almost one year to forward flight on a heli on a jet it took me 2 times to fly and land

[da_matae]

hey folks!
winter season has started and i started working on some mods (geardoors with lights, acl, position lights, aux inlets, airbrakes, fiberglassing, and hopefully a new paint scheme)
has anybody done one or another of those mods. cheers!

[xviper]

Thank you, so that confirms there is enough wiggle room where the elevator servo lead goes to fit in a few more leads!

You'll need a "fish" and be careful not to slice the elevator wires. (I didn't take any pictures on that occasion but it will become self evident once you test fit the nozzles and see where the leads have to go.)

[ElCid]

I cut a small plug out near where the nozzle servo leads come out and followed the same channel used by the elevator servo leads, then glued the plug back in.

Thank you, so that confirms there is enough wiggle room where the elevator servo lead goes to fit in a few more leads! Would you mind posting a snap of the surgery sight if you have one?

[ElCid]

I believe I did post mine in the RCG thread. I was one of the first adopters... I just looked there and don't see my pictures. They may be in this thread. Don't forget to consider stronger stab horn attachment, higher Guage extensions and other upgrades/ mods too.

Here is Pats. RC Groups - View Single Post - Freewing Mig-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm

Thanks Evan, I found that post but was hoping for some pictures. When i directed Santa to buy the Mig i also added the upgraded parts list you highlighted, so it's all here waiting until the 25th :D.

[xviper]

I cut a small plug out near where the nozzle servo leads come out and followed the same channel used by the elevator servo leads, then glued the plug back in.

[Evan D]

I believe I did post mine in the RCG thread. I was one of the first adopters... I just looked there and don't see my pictures. They may be in this thread. Don't forget to consider stronger stab horn attachment, higher Guage extensions and other upgrades/ mods too.

Here is Pats. RC Groups - View Single Post - Freewing Mig-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm

[ElCid]

So santa is bringing me a mig on the 25th with all the trimmings. Was thinking it might be much easier to mount the TV as the first step of the build, knowing nothing will be attached to the fus at that time. Can someone share with me a recomendation or a picture of how you ran your TV wires? i would prefer them all to be internal if possible but NOT in the thrust tubes.

Thanks