Official Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm Thread

[ElCid]

Well Santa dropped a nice new Mig under the tree last night, so I spent most of the evening and today getting it sorted. I have all the wires plumbed and now the hard part.

Looking to start getting my receiver etc. wired in but wanted to ask about battery position re CG with both VT and AB installed. Anyone have a recommendation they can share?

Also, I did the AB with no exposed wires and lined both thrust tubes with 1.5mil mylar tape to make them smooth and retina burning reflective.

[dbirds2]

Are you charging them to the full 4.35v? I read they can still perform well charged to 4.21v. Any concern, issue with the over voltage and the ESC / BEC?

Actually the best I can charge is to 4.30 per cell. IM missing on some capaACITY but they are very strong batteries under load. I will try them in my 700 size heli to give final verdict. HArd to find a battery to make my helis have that instant punch

[dbirds2]

You're moving the goalposts. You previously wrote (post #5798): "than any other hobby". Now you add "rc" because clearly you were wrong before.

yes i meant to say rc hobby, not all hobby. I figured folks would get it since we are on a rc hobby forum.

[kallend]

ya no. Name one rc hobby thats more difficult to learn than rc helis. Its by far the most difficult. thats why most who try faiil and move on to planes drones or walk away. By hobby I mean rc hobby. Helis is no way near the difficulty of learning to wheelie a liter bike at 100mph

You're moving the goalposts. You previously wrote (post #5798): "than any other hobby". Now you add "rc" because clearly you were wrong before.

[ElCid]

Btw. I tried the smc lihv 5300mah 75c batteries and I do like them. THey are good. Im buying more

Are you charging them to the full 4.35v? I read they can still perform well charged to 4.21v. Any concern, issue with the over voltage and the ESC / BEC?

[dbirds2]

Btw. I tried the smc lihv 5300mah 75c batteries and I do like them. THey are good. Im buying more

[dbirds2]

Has anyone tried to really max out the throws ob this jet. Does it help or just become to stall prone and unstable. Im going to get better servos for my thrust vectorig nozzles and run very high travel endpoints, on a seperate power source. Honestly it looks like the tghrust vector tubes barely move. THey got so much more space to operate. Might be a issue there. I will take a look when I get a chance. I did notice that the jet is so big and heavy that it picks up all the little rocks and pebbles on takeoffs and landings. I would prefer to have a cleaner runway, this jet already has some rash from 2 flights.

[ElCid]

Ditto Congrats on the maiden. I will take your advice and use the Mig as a cruiser and the f22 as sport bike.

[Evan D]

Congrats on the maiden!

[dbirds2]

I know some have used the older 2100kv. If you search the post here and especially at RCG you'll find them. It's an expensive proposition. I assume if you are going to do it you'll add the combo with reversing ESC?

When I bought mine I had two JF/HET 8S set ups I considered using. I never did. One it has decent power stock. I don't need this plane to hover. Two it was already crazy expensive and the new fans would about double the over all price. I ended up with one of the fans in one of my Gripens.

I just flew it today. Its a fun jet. Its big so it appears to move slowly in the air. I will need to make more travel for my t.v nozzles. I rthink its a little heavy to really ne a t.v aerobatic jet. Its cool but almost better to use the mig 29 as a scale jet with speed from upgrades. THe su35 is still the king of thrust vectoring freewing jets. Epo foam is just to dense and heavy. Its looking to be f22 and avanti 8s as my edf jets going forward. Dont get me wrong its a great jet just not that aerobatic

[dbirds2]

No, it is not a fact. Lots of things have more diffcult learning curves.

ya no. Name one rc hobby thats more difficult to learn than rc helis. Its by far the most difficult. thats why most who try faiil and move on to planes drones or walk away. By hobby I mean rc hobby. Helis is no way near the difficulty of learning to wheelie a liter bike at 100mph

[Evan D]

We have all found that you can not simply power out of the alpha lock. If you do not have TV cut the throttle and hope you have enough altitude for the nose t drop on it's own. With TV you can get out but the extra thrust probably won't help that much.

There may be others that have tried the 2000, I just remember Hugh and he did the 2100's.

[ElCid]

I know some have used the older 2100kv. If you search the post here and especially at RCG you'll find them. It's an expensive proposition. I assume if you are going to do it you'll add the combo with reversing ESC?

When I bought mine I had two JF/HET 8S set ups I considered using. I never did. One it has decent power stock. I don't need this plane to hover. Two it was already crazy expensive and the new fans would about double the over all price. I ended up with one of the fans in one of my Gripens.

Agreed, was just looking to see if it was an option someone had tried. I have zero desire to hover this but that extra 1kg could be usefully if you get stuck in an High Alpha, but the VT should be good enough to get out of that situation regardless.

[kallend]

MAYBE.. The learning curve is much more steep to fly rc helis than any other hobby period. Its just a fact.

No, it is not a fact. Lots of things have more diffcult learning curves.

[Evan D]

I know some have used the older 2100kv. If you search the post here and especially at RCG you'll find them. It's an expensive proposition. I assume if you are going to do it you'll add the combo with reversing ESC?

When I bought mine I had two JF/HET 8S set ups I considered using. I never did. One it has decent power stock. I don't need this plane to hover. Two it was already crazy expensive and the new fans would about double the over all price. I ended up with one of the fans in one of my Gripens.

[ElCid]

I have see several posts about a lack of disposable thrust :D with this plane. Has anyone looked at dropping in 2 x FMS 80mm 12 Blade 2000Kv Special Metal EDF For 6S? Based on the stats I have found in various places these are 3.4/3.5 Kg of thrust each vs the stock 9 blade fans that are 3kg of thrust each. Thats roughly 1kg of thrust more than stock to play around with.

[ElCid]

My Mig is sitting by the tree wrapped up with a bow on it. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas morning. I think my wife put it out early just to get me going.

[dbirds2]

What's funny is I started on Helis and have several scale and 3D helis (12s and Jetcat powered). Flying these EDF jets scares the crap out of me every time, but i don't break a sweat on the Helis. I really think it come down to what you learned on.
My F4 gives me a heart attack every time I fly it, but I do feel such a sense of accomplishment when I land it without issue. I can do hurricanes with my Mikado 800 XXTREME all day and it's like a walk in the park.

MAYBE.. The learning curve is much more steep to fly rc helis than any other hobby period. Its just a fact. Come from a 3d heli hobby and your flying planes very quickly if not instantly. Coming from planker hobby to heli hobby and your learning from the start. Rc pilot skills is a perishable skill and perishable with age. Thats why you dont see seniors flying 3d helis. I ahd to quit helis due to vertigo. I like 3d planes and jets with thrust vectoring. Keeps it interesting. I would be bored with scale flying. Btw MIG 29 IS WAITING TO FLY BUT WEATHER HASNT ALLOWED THAT DAY YET. Im not overly impressed with the red mig 29 its very heavy and the thrust nozzles dont have wide travel. Its cool but no su35 that for sure. I might sell it if it dont produce. Im kinda leaning towards the 3d planes nowadays and got my eyes set on the flex mamba 120

[ElCid]

actually I doubt that. skilled helicopter pilots are even more anal repulsive than plankers. goes with the territory as flying choppers is the by far the most skilled hobby in the world hands down. Most give up and go to planes or drones. Took me almost one year to forward flight on a heli on a jet it took me 2 times to fly and land

What's funny is I started on Helis and have several scale and 3D helis (12s and Jetcat powered). Flying these EDF jets scares the crap out of me every time, but i don't break a sweat on the Helis. I really think it come down to what you learned on.
My F4 gives me a heart attack every time I fly it, but I do feel such a sense of accomplishment when I land it without issue. I can do hurricanes with my Mikado 800 XXTREME all day and it's like a walk in the park.

[ElCid]

would you like a picture of the factory location thats on the red mig

I would LOVE one

Thank you