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  • I have searched for years to find a 4-blade prop that would work on the FMS 1700mm P-51 but to no avail. The closest I came was this German company but their props are very expensive and may not be in the size I need.


    Most one-piece 4-bladers don't even come close to the size needed for the Mustang.

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    • Originally posted by xviper View Post
      Most one-piece 4-bladers don't even come close to the size needed for the Mustang.
      X,

      What would be the ideal size in a 4-blade prop for this model?

      Have you changed out the electric motor for one with more grunt/RPM?

      Back in the 'days or yore' we built larger 4-bladed props from 2 bladed props.

      These were 'Rev-Up" maple props with the wide blades.

      Sometimes by notching one against the other and using epoxy and metal pins to build one prop and sometimes by machining/building a back plate that would allow for using a portion of the prop & hub of four 2-bladed props.

      I never had one come apart, but it certainly could depending on use/abuse.

      Best, LB
      "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
      ~Lucky B*st*rd~

      "You just need the will to do what the other guy wouldn't."
      ~Keyser Soze~

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      • Originally posted by Elbee View Post

        X,

        What would be the ideal size in a 4-blade prop for this model?

        Have you changed out the electric motor for one with more grunt/RPM?

        Back in the 'days or yore' we built larger 4-bladed props from 2 bladed props.

        These were 'Rev-Up" maple props with the wide blades.

        Sometimes by notching one against the other and using epoxy and metal pins to build one prop and sometimes by machining/building a back plate that would allow for using a portion of the prop & hub of four 2-bladed props.

        I never had one come apart, but it certainly could depending on use/abuse.

        Best, LB
        Hugh and I were referencing the FMS 1700mm 'Stang. Mine is already modified with the power system from the Flightline 1600mm P-51. As such, I'm using the stock F/L prop (16x12x4) because I worry that the stock FMS prop might come apart given the F/L motor spins ~100kv faster. Ideally, I would have liked to have used the stock sized FMS prop (17x10x4). "Rule of thumb" - the F/L prop would be equivalent to a (17x11x4), so in that sense, the stock FMS prop "might" be able to take it but I didn't want to chance it as I've had a similar prop on the FMS 1700mm Corsair explode on 2 different models. One day, if I find a way to manufacture that metal brace that comes with the stock F/L and make it fit into the stock FMS prop hub, I'll give it a try.
        Hugh is thinking of going with the Eflite Power 60 motor (470kv), 80kv more than the F/L motor. Using the stock FMS prop could be a risky proposition. However, having said that and knowing that RCInformer did try the same V1 FMS P-51 on 7 or 8 cells and it lived to tell the story would make me think that the stock FMS prop might take it. I'm just too chicken to try but with the metal F/L type brace, I would chance it.
        I've read some modellers have considered that the proper "scale" prop for the FMS plane is closer to an 18" 4-blade and for the F/L plane, a 17" 4-blade. IMO, the F/L P-51 would look amazing with a bigger prop but one would have to take extra care so as to not nose over and break all kinds of stuff in the nose. I don't have the calculations to confirm or deny these "claims". The pitch for such props would be dependent on the motor used based upon an E-calc determination, something I'm not well versed in performing.

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        • xviper..

          Makes sense, it would seem reasonable to think one could build props, even scale sized props, given current technologies.

          As stated, we used to build 'em from maple 2-bladed props.

          I still have a 3-bladed and a few 4-blade props I made from those days.

          Best, LB

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          "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
          ~Lucky B*st*rd~

          "You just need the will to do what the other guy wouldn't."
          ~Keyser Soze~

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          • Those home made 4-bladers are spectacular.

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            • Scale Hamilton Standard for this 63" Mustang would be 19"
              Fly low, fly fast, turn left

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              • Originally posted by xviper View Post
                Those home made 4-bladers are spectacular.
                Thanks, X.

                I ran those on a OS .40 FSR ABC and a OS .91S 4-Stroke.

                A little much for the .40, though performance was really good and the drag at lower throttle was realistic.

                The 3-blade was never run on an engine, as I didn't finish the model, Pica (Dave Platt design) Spitfire with a OS .61 FSR ABC.

                Still have the partially built kit, wing needs top sheeting and fuselage needs empannage completed.

                Big fun for little money in those days.

                Best, LB
                "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
                ~Lucky B*st*rd~

                "You just need the will to do what the other guy wouldn't."
                ~Keyser Soze~

                AMA#116446

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