Freewing 90mm F-22 Raptor - Official Thread

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  • billd3
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    • Feb 2018
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    #4281
    I just rebuilt my 90mm F 22 due to a disorientation crash...think I'll paint my Vertical Tails insignia red to improve orientation. What's the best paint to use over that foam?
    Bill
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    • Reptielenfreak
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      #4282
      Water based paint

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      • billd3
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        #4283
        Well, I kinda figured that...I shoulda been a little more detailed...My bad, Reptielenfreak. Some water based paints spray better than others, so maybe the brand and or any specific details to make it spray really well.???
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        • shortround91
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          #4284
          Originally posted by billd3
          Well, I kinda figured that...I shoulda been a little more detailed...My bad, Reptielenfreak. Some water based paints spray better than others, so maybe the brand and or any specific details to make it spray really well.???
          Bill
          For airbrushing I’ve been using Tamiya there already thinned fine for me spray consistently and cover really well.

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          • Airguardian
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            #4285
            You may have seen a few of our aerial videos showing my jets flying as seen from drone perspective, filmed by my ever faithful wingman Ernest Tuckie, but I haven't upload much of what these flights actually look like from the ground. In the air it all looks pretty intense and fast paced, but those are video edits, short clips put together. The full flights tend to be constant repetitions of the same maneuver again and again, with very thought out patterns and communication to ensure flight safety. These are some of those flights uncut, and you can hear us exchanging instructions back and forth... may not be the most thrilling stuff to watch, but it gives some further insight into how we do what we do, hope you find it interesting! ;)

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            • Reptielenfreak
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              #4286
              Originally posted by billd3
              Well, I kinda figured that...I shoulda been a little more detailed...My bad, Reptielenfreak. Some water based paints spray better than others, so maybe the brand and or any specific details to make it spray really well.???
              Bill
              So i dont know where you are from, but i get my spray can paints from the store Action. Just basic water based will be fine.

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              • Wheelman604
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                #4287
                Took my F22 90mm out for Maiden today and on the takeoff roll the motor quit just as it lifted off.

                As I was preparing to quickly get it back on the ground, the motor came back on again (after 3sec), full power, and the plane pitched up, stalled and crashed and is destroyed.

                Brought the pieces back to the pit and when I advanced the throttle to diagnose, the ESC was in 'reverse mode' despite the transmitter not being set to reverse (have the blue ESC). I could not get it out of reverse unless I engaged reverse first on the transmitter. I have thoroughly bench tested this plane, never had an issue, although this was probably the most sustained full power run up.

                I have a FrSky X18 with a data log, so went in and verified no loss in signal, no holds, no battery issues during the takeoff roll.

                I don't recall loosing any flight surface controls either.

                Seems to me like a junk ESC...super unfortunate.
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                • kallend
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                  #4288
                  Originally posted by Wheelman604
                  Took my F22 90mm out for Maiden today and on the takeoff roll the motor quit just as it lifted off.

                  As I was preparing to quickly get it back on the ground, the motor came back on again (after 3sec), full power, and the plane pitched up, stalled and crashed and is destroyed.

                  Brought the pieces back to the pit and when I advanced the throttle to diagnose, the ESC was in 'reverse mode' despite the transmitter not being set to reverse (have the blue ESC). I could not get it out of reverse unless I engaged reverse first on the transmitter. I have thoroughly bench tested this plane, never had an issue, although this was probably the most sustained full power run up.

                  I have a FrSky X18 with a data log, so went in and verified no loss in signal, no holds, no battery issues during the takeoff roll.

                  I don't recall loosing any flight surface controls either.

                  Seems to me like a junk ESC...super unfortunate.
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                  6S or 8S? What pack?

                  Would that be this ESC? https://www.motionrc.com/products/fr...ion-092d002001

                  If so, I have not found them to be "junk". Quite the contrary, in fact.

                  Symptoms sound like a hard LVC.

                  Are you, by any chance, running a HV pack?

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                  • Evan D
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                    #4289
                    Sorry to hear this. I have quite a few planes with that ESC and no issue. Let whoever you got it from know so they can let FreeWing know to investigate.

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                    • Wheelman604
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                      #4290
                      Originally posted by kallend

                      6S or 8S? What pack?

                      Would that be this ESC? https://www.motionrc.com/products/fr...ion-092d002001

                      If so, I have not found them to be "junk". Quite the contrary, in fact.

                      Symptoms sound like a hard LVC.

                      Are you, by any chance, running a HV pack?
                      No HV Pack...
                      Using 6S - Zeee 5000Mah 100C (brand new)

                      Yes - That's the same ESC. I find it weird it was stuck in reverse after the plane came to a rest.

                      Battery telemetry showed all cells above 3.7V under full load

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                      • Wheelman604
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                        #4291
                        Originally posted by Evan D
                        Sorry to hear this. I have quite a few planes with that ESC and no issue. Let whoever you got it from know so they can let FreeWing know to investigate.
                        Definitely...have reached out to Motion RC with the explanation. Will see what they say after the Thanksgiving holiday.

                        Is your ESC the newer blue version with reversing?

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                        • Evan D
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                          #4292
                          Yes, I have them in my Zeus (I’ve had two), F-22, F-16v2, J-10, and Eurofighter.

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                          • billd3
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                            #4293
                            recently bought a decal sheet for the 90mm F-22...Support said they have no location chart but look at photos. I looked on the manual but there are no images showing placement of decals anywhere. Anyone else have any ideas?
                            Thanks in advance,
                            Bill
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                            • Evan D
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                              #4294
                              Lots of pictures in the thread on RCG. Lots here too, use the filter button.

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                              • shortround91
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                                #4295
                                Originally posted by billd3
                                recently bought a decal sheet for the 90mm F-22...Support said they have no location chart but look at photos. I looked on the manual but there are no images showing placement of decals anywhere. Anyone else have any ideas?
                                Thanks in advance,
                                Bill
                                Happy to post pics of mine, if interested say the word
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                                • billd3
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                                  #4296
                                  Thanks, Shortround91...I think I've found enough pics on this forum to get it done; but if I need more I'll contact you.
                                  Merry Christmas.
                                  Bill
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                                  • billd3
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                                    #4297
                                    Has anyone here made a 3D printed pilot for the 90mm F-22?
                                    Bill
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                                    • Oachidori
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                                      #4298
                                      Has anyone replaced the gear train for F22 90 mm in order to open/close faster that the original? It will have break too will be the best.
                                      tks
                                      Badan Kit - Yak55M 2.8m; EF - Extra 300 2.3m; Multiplex - Funcub;Funjet Ultra2;Parkmaster;FW - F22 90-X45 Xicoy;ROBBE MISTRAL 2.0

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                                      • Evan D
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                                        #4299
                                        Most, if not all electric retracts are the same speed. If you are looking remember these are 110 deg retracts not the usual 90.

                                        You can speed up the overall movement by using something other than or bypassing the MCBe but you'll need something to activate the front gear doors.

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                                        • Oachidori
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                                          #4300
                                          Originally posted by Evan D
                                          Most, if not all electric retracts are the same speed. If you are looking remember these are 110 deg retracts not the usual 90.

                                          You can speed up the overall movement by using something other than or bypassing the MCBe but you'll need something to activate the front gear doors.
                                          Evan, i tried direct to receiver but i didn t saw any difference..that was the ideea , how can i replace with something quicker..my radio have the possibilty to delay the opening of the front doors, so will be no problem, and i still have chanels dispo for that.
                                          Badan Kit - Yak55M 2.8m; EF - Extra 300 2.3m; Multiplex - Funcub;Funjet Ultra2;Parkmaster;FW - F22 90-X45 Xicoy;ROBBE MISTRAL 2.0

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