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  • MOFO1
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    • Jul 2017
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    #341
    Agree with Gooniac33. This Mig17 is a terrific flier. Maybe I have just been lucky, my Mig is pretty much bone stock. The only changes I have made are a paint job(bare aluminium) and putting a wire mesh over the cheater hole since the vanes broke off. I really like the sound it makes since putting on the wire mesh. As for bouncing on landings, only had a few during the first flights. Once I learned this jet, I rarely have a bounce and if I do it's a minor bounce.

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    • Gilatrout
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      • Dec 2016
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      #342
      Almost ready for the maiden. Gusty cross winds came up, so tomorrow

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      • gooniac33
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        • Jun 2016
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        #343
        Originally posted by MOFO1
        Agree with Gooniac33. This Mig17 is a terrific flier. Maybe I have just been lucky, my Mig is pretty much bone stock. The only changes I have made are a paint job(bare aluminium) and putting a wire mesh over the cheater hole since the vanes broke off. I really like the sound it makes since putting on the wire mesh. As for bouncing on landings, only had a few during the first flights. Once I learned this jet, I rarely have a bounce and if I do it's a minor bounce.
        landing this plane takes patience! Get that in check and they will all be buttery!
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        • John Bergsmith
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          #344
          Saw my first stock Mig 17 fly this past weekend at our clubs EDF event. Impressive airplane right out of the box, with a good flight envelop. Got me motivated to get mine assembled!

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          • gooniac33
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            #345
            my flights from sunday... I went nutso with it and it was so much fun!!





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            • John Bergsmith
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              • Mar 2019
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              #346
              Balanced and ready to go. I’ll see how it flies tomorrow.
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              • John Bergsmith
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                #347
                Originally posted by gooniac33
                my flights from sunday... I went nutso with it and it was so much fun!!





                Entertaining videos! You have a great flying site as well.

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                • gooniac33
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                  #348
                  Originally posted by John Bergsmith

                  Entertaining videos! You have a great flying site as well.
                  Thanks!! I got 4 more crazy man flights this weekend with my new HRB batteries!! Such a blast to fly!!
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                  • gooniac33
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                    #349
                    videos from this past weekend... HRB 6s 50c 6000 batteries used in all videos. I broke them in with 8 cycles each on my charger at home first... then went crazy!! They were barely warm and 3.8v per cell after each of these flights!




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                    • MrVoyagerx
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                      #350
                      Yep, you got that right, cycling the batteries is a must.

                      A friend has this jet at the field, this thing is huge and flies fast w good envelope. But, I personally dont dig the color scheme and jet wing design, just imo.

                      That flying field never sees a drop of cloud, has to be difficult to fly sometimes. I hate flying in skies w no clouds, got no reference points at all.

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                      • gooniac33
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                        #351
                        Originally posted by MrVoyagerx
                        Yep, you got that right, cycling the batteries is a must.

                        A friend has this jet at the field, this thing is huge and flies fast w good envelope. But, I personally dont dig the color scheme and jet wing design, just imo.

                        That flying field never sees a drop of cloud, has to be difficult to fly sometimes. I hate flying in skies w no clouds, got no reference points at all.
                        It is a really important step that most people miss. I would prefer to get at least 15 cycles to be really happy but considering the load being put on them in this plane I think that is enough. I have a Turnigy Reaktor Charge that can do Regen Discharge. So I hook it up to an external battery and then set it up on their cycle set up. It will discharge that pack at about 12-15amps which is good enough to get it done reasonably quickly without over amping the pack.
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                        • Porkster

                          • Mar 2017
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                          #352
                          I bought my MiG 17 as soon as they were released and have been absolutely loving it. Admittedly I have changed all the servos for Savox, metal geared ones and by-passed the landing gear control box.
                          Its been flying great and I really like its overall flight characteristics.
                          Unfortunately the quality of components leaves much to be desired, first the servos and last weekend the ESC failed :( after a couple of miss fires, which i heard so I was setting up to land, down wind gear down alls fine, base leg, no control at all.... so lucky it was level and slow plus I fly from an airbase with very few obstacles. It did however find one of the only trees to land in!!! its a tough ol'bird, i'll get it fixed but lets say hobby king has been their usual non helpful selves


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                          • Evan D
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                            • Jan 2016
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                            #353
                            Sorry to hear this. The ESC is a good one but rated at 100A with a 5A BEC. My Mig pulls more than 100A at full throttle and the low grade servos don't tax the BEC. I wonder if your changing the servos might have been too much for the internal BEC?

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                            • Alpha
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                              • Feb 2015
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                              #354
                              I had occasion to watch a MiG-17 during Oshkosh 2016`s night show, I believe it was NX620F but can't recall exactly. Either way, it was one of the most memorable flight demos I've seen in recent years. The pilot had a plume of flame that must have measured almost half the length of his fuselage blazing out the back during a low pass. It's amazing how confining the cockpit is, and how limited the forward visibility is, similar to something like an A-4, yet they were such an effective fighting force despite the simplicity of such a classic design. Quite literally a point and shoot aerial weapon. I've always had a soft spot for MiGs, and the MiG-17 high among them, The models always seem to fly well, from the Freewing to the FlyFly to the BVM.


                              Porkster Are you saying that your Savox servo failed, or the stock one? Savox has always been reliable for me; they're my Go To servo for larger helicopters in unenviable flight environments.
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                              • MrVoyagerx
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                                #355
                                I just wish it was some other finish besides camo, seems the cheap way out, cutting corners on the design. Would have liked a finish closer to the Thunderchief, w the metal tones, shades, and no, am not goin through the hassle of painting it at that price.

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                                • Evan D
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                                  • Jan 2016
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                                  #356
                                  I repainted mine and the original paint is too delicate. A slight bump and it flakes off.


                                  Originally posted by MrVoyagerx
                                  I just wish it was some other finish besides camo, seems the cheap way out, cutting corners on the design. Would have liked a finish closer to the Thunderchief, w the metal tones, shades, and no, am not goin through the hassle of painting it at that price.

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                                  • Porkster

                                    • Mar 2017
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                                    #357
                                    Originally posted by Alpha
                                    I had occasion to watch a MiG-17 during Oshkosh 2016`s night show, I believe it was NX620F but can't recall exactly. Either way, it was one of the most memorable flight demos I've seen in recent years. The pilot had a plume of flame that must have measured almost half the length of his fuselage blazing out the back during a low pass. It's amazing how confining the cockpit is, and how limited the forward visibility is, similar to something like an A-4, yet they were such an effective fighting force despite the simplicity of such a classic design. Quite literally a point and shoot aerial weapon. I've always had a soft spot for MiGs, and the MiG-17 high among them, The models always seem to fly well, from the Freewing to the FlyFly to the BVM.


                                    Porkster Are you saying that your Savox servo failed, or the stock one? Savox has always been reliable for me; they're my Go To servo for larger helicopters in unenviable flight environments.
                                    Hi Alpha,
                                    sorry, that was poorly written, I had three of the original servos fail so I decided to replace all the servos with savox. I’ve always liked the Savox brand.

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                                    • Helijet
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                                      #358
                                      Wow..i have about 50 some flights on mine with original servos but I did take lots of time to set up the gear, flaps and airbrake servos. May I ask which ones failed on you?

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                                      • Evan D
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                                        • Jan 2016
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                                        #359
                                        I stopped counting but I'm probably around 100 and while a couple have always mad some noise none have failed. I also took my time in set up and moved linkages in on servo horns where I could to get better leverage. I also resized all the ball links as they were very tight. And I also removed the white box and ran extensions and Y's.

                                        I am still using all the original servos, retract module and sequencer.

                                        I had a friend just last night saying that I am super lucky and never have servos fail (talking specifically about FW EDFs). I personally think we make our own luck some of the time.

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                                        • Porkster

                                          • Mar 2017
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                                          #360
                                          I had an aileron, flap and gear door. Gear door is understandable as they do make some noise. The flap servo just stopped working and the aileron servo melted the case and has actually damaged the foam on the wing. HK did send replacement servos but after the Aileron failure I thought I’d rather change to servos I trust.
                                          I was very careful on set up and moved linkages and used mechanical throw rather than through the radio.
                                          I'm going to keep going with this plane as it is very pretty in the sky and will achieve decent flight times. Just a shame about the junk fitted to mine. As another note mine did turn up without any marks and was well packed, so guess some QC is present.

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