Official Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm Thread

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  • Hugh Wiedman
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    • Jan 2018
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    #4961
    Originally posted by Skosh25
    Had an awesome time with my MiG and L-39 last night. Perfect weather and field all to myself.
    Your Mig is definitely First Class. Would love to see what it looks like in the air with photos or a video!
    Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
    Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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    • Evan D
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      #4962
      The newer servos and upgrade parts aren't available for us in the US either...

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      • Hugh Wiedman
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        #4963
        Originally posted by Evan D
        The newer servos and upgrade parts aren't available for us in the US either...
        I saw that last night on their website, which kinda sucks , since you guys were the pioneers in testing it out and determining any issues. I would have sent a free upgrade to all those who purchased the first few batches, but with that attitude, maybe that's why my start up businesses always went belly up?
        Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
        Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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        • Skosh25
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          #4964
          Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman

          Your Mig is definitely First Class. Would love to see what it looks like in the air with photos or a video!
          Thanks Hugh! Here are a couple videos




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          • Hugh Wiedman
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            #4965
            Originally posted by Skosh25
            She looks great in the air as well, even I could probably follow it's orientation and I'm "blind as a bat". Nice scenery surrounding your airfield also!
            Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
            Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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            • lusek_pl
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              #4966
              Originally posted by Tigerman
              Well I have finally given up any hope of obtaining the Freewing Mig 29 here in Europe .it must be coming up to almost a year now it has been Out Of Stock .To me the fact that it has been Out Of Stock now for almost a year tells me it has been discontinued here in Europe. Shame on you Motion RC .Europe must be the poor cousin ,it has been In Stock in the USA now for ages .but a no show over here in Europe .Still the good news is it has saved me £600 to spend on something else
              Full agreement, the MOTION RC's pathetic approach to European customers. One year since the model was released, zero information. Likewise, I lost all hope and intend to buy Mig from Arrows Hobby. And motion, I recommend changing the manager in Europe.

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              • kallend
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                #4967
                Originally posted by lusek_pl

                Full agreement, the MOTION RC's pathetic approach to European customers. One year since the model was released, zero information. Likewise, I lost all hope and intend to buy Mig from Arrows Hobby. .
                The ArrowsRC MiG29 is an excellent model with no tendency to self destruct when you lower the flaps.

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                • xviper
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                  #4968
                  It's a fact of life where the HQ is for a given company as far as RC hobby is concerned. Let me give you an example of SebArt in Italy. They do have a US distributor but that distributor has very little in the way they can get stuff done with SebArt-Italy. So in this vain, SebArt's approach to N. American customers is pathetic. It has nothing to do with the "manager". It is what it is and I don't go screaming naked in the streets trashing SebArt's sense of priority to us. I had to go to Austria to import my SebArt Mig because their US people wouldn't or couldn't do it. In the case of the FW Mig29, people in Europe also have the choice of getting one from RC Castle (when they get stock back). RCC will ship anywhere.

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                  • locharrow
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                    #4969
                    Originally posted by kallend

                    The ArrowsRC MiG29 is an excellent model with no tendency to self destruct when you lower the flaps.
                    K....if you wore wellies when you sky dive could you go into Alpha -lock ?

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                    • GliderGuy
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                      #4970
                      Originally posted by kallend

                      The ArrowsRC MiG29 is an excellent model with no tendency to self destruct when you lower the flaps.
                      Would be interesting if the aeronautical engineers out there on this thread would make an analysis / comparison of the FW and Arrow designs and attempt to figure out why not. Assuming someone has confirmed that flying the Arrow MiG fast with flaps down doesn’t cause lawn darting, FFS downward bending, servo lock, etc.

                      If that hasn’t been confirmed, then the analysis is probably moot.

                      -GG

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                      • kallend
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                        #4971
                        Originally posted by locharrow

                        K....if you wore wellies when you sky dive could you go into Alpha -lock ?
                        No, they'd tilt me head down and then get blown off.

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                        • kallend
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                          #4972
                          Originally posted by GliderGuy

                          Would be interesting if the aeronautical engineers out there on this thread would make an analysis / comparison of the FW and Arrow designs and attempt to figure out why not. Assuming someone has confirmed that flying the Arrow MiG fast with flaps down doesn’t cause lawn darting, FFS downward bending, servo lock, etc.

                          If that hasn’t been confirmed, then the analysis is probably moot.

                          -GG
                          I have the ArrowsRC MiG. It doesn't do anything weird when the flaps are lowered at speed. Neither does it alpha-lock.

                          The design differences that I see:

                          The entire tail section and stab. axle mounting is much stiffer and not prone to distortion.

                          The FFS pivot line is not so far forward, relative to the CP of the surface.

                          The thrust line is not angled relative to the fuselage datum.

                          Obviously smaller and lighter. Not sure that this is important, but it is a difference.

                          Just as with the FW MiG, most of us find that moving the CG back improves its flying.

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                          • lusek_pl
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                            #4973
                            Originally posted by kallend

                            I have the ArrowsRC MiG. It doesn't do anything weird when the flaps are lowered at speed. Neither does it alpha-lock.

                            The design differences that I see:

                            The entire tail section and stab. axle mounting is much stiffer and not prone to distortion.

                            The FFS pivot line is not so far forward, relative to the CP of the surface.

                            The thrust line is not angled relative to the fuselage datum.

                            Obviously smaller and lighter. Not sure that this is important, but it is a difference.

                            Just as with the FW MiG, most of us find that moving the CG back improves its flying.
                            What packages do you use?

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                            • Airguardian
                              Post Stall Svengali

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                              #4974
                              Originally posted by locharrow
                              K....if you wore wellies when you sky dive could you go into Alpha -lock ?
                              I think wingsuit skydiving could arguably be defined as a permanent high-alpha lock!

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                              • locharrow
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                                #4975
                                Originally posted by kallend

                                No, they'd tilt me head down and then get blown off.
                                My big sister once wore two pair of tights and blew her wellies off when she "passed wind" ........... Same principle???

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                                • kallend
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                                  #4976
                                  Originally posted by locharrow

                                  My big sister once wore two pair of tights and blew her wellies off when she "passed wind" ........... Same principle???
                                  Too much haggis will do that.

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                                  • kallend
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                                    #4977
                                    Originally posted by lusek_pl

                                    What packages do you use?
                                    Packages? Not sure what you mean.

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                                    • xviper
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                                      #4978
                                      To prevent your wellies from blowing off, leave the sheep's back legs in them.

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                                      • kallend
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                                        #4979
                                        Originally posted by xviper
                                        To prevent your wellies from blowing off, leave the sheep's back legs in them.
                                        You're confusing me with the Italians.

                                        https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...edition/63126/
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                                        • lusek_pl
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                                          #4980
                                          Originally posted by kallend

                                          Packages? Not sure what you mean.
                                          Batterry :) What can the maximum fly 5000?

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