Roban - World Class Scale Helicopters

Official Freewing B-2 Spirit Bomber 86" Twin 70mm EDF Jet

Collapse
X
Collapse
First Prev Next Last
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Hugh Wiedman
    Demolition Pilot

    • Jan 2018
    • 2693
    • Miami
    • Send PM

    #101
    Originally posted by xviper

    Hugh, I see your buddy, Rudy, is getting one. I don't know if he posts here but when you see him and his B-2, get him to post his pics, video and impressions here.
    Will do. We'll definitely get some good photos and videos using our friends great equipment. RudyD54 started texting me at 7 AM that MRC just made his "Holy Grail" a reality. No doubt one of the first to pull the trigger. That's why I "love" him, he's my "New Release Guinea Pig". With that said, he's always right on the mark! He's already talking about setting up variable thrust so I'm always learning something new from him as well.
    Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
    Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

    Comment

    • TLewis95
      I drive planes

      • Jan 2018
      • 37
      • Grapevine, Tx
      • Send PM

      #102
      Super cool guys! I love the drag rudders and how convincing it looks in the air. I will own one eventually!

      Comment

      • xviper
        Hobby Squawk Regular

        • Jan 2014
        • 8761
        • Calgary, Canada
        • Send PM

        #103
        Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman

        Will do. We'll definitely get some good photos and videos using our friends great equipment. RudyD54 started texting me at 7 AM that MRC just made his "Holy Grail" a reality. No doubt one of the first to pull the trigger. That's why I "love" him, he's my "New Release Guinea Pig". With that said, he's always right on the mark! He's already talking about setting up variable thrust so I'm always learning something new from him as well.
        I see now that Rudy does post here, so hopefully, he’ll grace us with his review. I hadn’t even thought about differential thrust but that certainly would be an interesting mod. If the drag rudders are very effective, diff. thrust may not be as needed. I’m hoping that this plane will float like most of my flying wings and it won’t need reverse thrust to get it stopped on short runways. Then again, if the rudders can be mixed to perform as air brakes, that would be a bonus and reverse may not be necessary.

        Comment

        • spy
          Member

          • Feb 2017
          • 15
          • Send PM

          #104
          I bought one..its kool , my only problem with it Freewing gave us the older 2100kv/ 60amp combo.., @$699 we deserve the current 2250kv/ 80a combo...it is MRC's newest plane...right?

          Comment

          • Raydar
            Member

            • Sep 2020
            • 20
            • Send PM

            #105
            Originally posted by spy
            I bought one..its kool , my only problem with it Freewing gave us the older 2100kv/ 60amp combo.., @$699 we deserve the current 2250kv/ 80a combo...it is MRC's newest plane...right?
            Then people will destroy their battery's drawing to many combined amps. I found on my FMS A-10 two 60a fans are pretty rough on a single pack.

            Comment

            • Lextek
              Member

              • Sep 2019
              • 19
              • Farmington, NY
              • Send PM

              #106
              Originally posted by Teslamandex
              Wonder if any flights have been initiated from a grass runway?
              Me too

              Comment

              • crxmanpat
                Certified Foam Abuser

                • Oct 2014
                • 2464
                • Crawfordville, FL
                • Send PM

                #107
                I will be flying from grass. Hopefully I will get to maiden on Sunday and will report results.
                Pat

                Comment

                • JamesonC
                  MRC fanboy

                  • Feb 2017
                  • 619
                  • Laurens, SC
                  • Send PM

                  #108
                  Originally posted by spy
                  I bought one..its kool , my only problem with it Freewing gave us the older 2100kv/ 60amp combo.., @$699 we deserve the current 2250kv/ 80a combo...it is MRC's newest plane...right?
                  Technically, the twin 2100kv inrunner counter-rotating setup is newer than the 2210*kv setup.

                  The 2210kv setup was introduced in the F35 in 2019 and has become the power system for HP versions of all the single 70mm EDFs (minus the Yak130.)

                  The 2100kv counter-rotating setup was introduced last year when they started putting it in the Me262. This has become the standard, it seems, in their twin 70mm lineup and replaced the older 2150kv outrunner setup. The SU35, Me262, and the Airliner have all been upgraded to this setup, and the PJ50 and this B-2 were both released with it.

                  Comment

                  • barron06
                    Member

                    • Jan 2016
                    • 60
                    • Greenville, NC
                    • Send PM

                    #109
                    It seems twin 4000s (either in parallel or each to own edf) would fit this bird perfectly and not kill a single lipo. My SU30 is a lipo killer. I haven't configured the 2x lipo yet. Todays twin 70mm are too hard on single lipo. Of course, if you fly it like a B2, this shouldn't be an issue. I see this bird just cruising around in late afternoons... admiring the slow relaxing fly-bys. For me, a great way to end the flying day.

                    Comment

                    • JamesonC
                      MRC fanboy

                      • Feb 2017
                      • 619
                      • Laurens, SC
                      • Send PM

                      #110
                      Originally posted by barron06
                      It seems twin 4000s (either in parallel or each to own edf) would fit this bird perfectly and not kill a single lipo. My SU30 is a lipo killer. I haven't configured the 2x lipo yet. Todays twin 70mm are too hard on single lipo. Of course, if you fly it like a B2, this shouldn't be an issue. I see this bird just cruising around in late afternoons... admiring the slow relaxing fly-bys. For me, a great way to end the flying day.
                      I put about 8 flights on my PJ50 this past weekend with the same power system and 5 minutes was the average flight time with the lipos coming back at 3.75. I do not see this plane being any different.

                      Comment

                      • Evan D
                        I'll fly anything

                        • Jan 2016
                        • 5389
                        • Charlotte
                        • Send PM

                        #111
                        I just saw you complaining about other people complaining in that post.

                        Is that your point?



                        Originally posted by xviper
                        I suppose if you don't see any of the points, explaining it won't matter much.

                        Comment

                        • kallend
                          -----

                          • Nov 2016
                          • 1870
                          • Send PM

                          #112
                          Originally posted by spy
                          I bought one..its kool , my only problem with it Freewing gave us the older 2100kv/ 60amp combo.., @$699 we deserve the current 2250kv/ 80a combo...it is MRC's newest plane...right?
                          Really? Seems like a very appropriate choice to me.

                          Comment

                          • Evan D
                            I'll fly anything

                            • Jan 2016
                            • 5389
                            • Charlotte
                            • Send PM

                            #113
                            I agree they made the right choice but there was a person saying it should have 80mm's and this person saying the more powerful 70's. I think 99% will be very happy with the stock power.

                            Comment

                            • GliderGuy
                              Senior Member

                              • Oct 2018
                              • 1408
                              • Send PM

                              #114
                              Originally posted by Evan D
                              I agree they made the right choice but there was a person saying it should have 80mm's and this person saying the more powerful 70's. I think 99% will be very happy with the stock power.
                              I agree! Consistently (100+ flights) my PJ50 consumes right around 4000 mAh (leaving about 3.8V) in a 4:30 flight with 3 min at 75% hot rodding mix and 1:30 at 50% cool down cruising. (6000 Admiral Pro) Batteries are not overly warm post flight.

                              I don’t see folks hot rodding the B-2 like this. This potentially translates into nice long leisurely flights enjoying the visuals without stressing the LiPo.

                              Ordered one…sweet addition to the line-up. WTG Alpha, FW, MRC. Congrats!

                              -GG

                              Comment

                              • Gilatrout
                                RC Pilot Addict

                                • Dec 2016
                                • 806
                                • Albuquerque NM
                                • Send PM

                                #115
                                Originally posted by Evan D
                                I agree they made the right choice but there was a person saying it should have 80mm's and this person saying the more powerful 70's. I think 99% will be very happy with the stock power.
                                IT'S A BOMBER NOT A MISSILE!

                                I Fly at high altitudes with air density in the summer at times over 9000ft. Twin 70s with this wing loading should provide for some excellent scale flights with plenty reserve to get out of trouble.

                                I so tired of the attitude that some have over there.

                                Comment

                                • rifleman_btx
                                  me

                                  • Dec 2016
                                  • 5246
                                  • West Point TX
                                  • Send PM

                                  #116
                                  I bet it would be able to float around nicely power off too. I bet one could fly it like a powered glider and keep it in the air for a very good flight time, thermal hunting and all especially with the span.

                                  Comment

                                  • Dougcarr73
                                    Member

                                    • Dec 2019
                                    • 69
                                    • Augusta, GA
                                    • Send PM

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by xviper
                                    Like EvanD said. No flaps. It should have read "flaperons/elevons". A flying wing with down flaps will dive, with UP flaps will climb. If you had the inner control surfaces go down as flaps do, the outer control surfaces would have to go UP to compensate. Then, you'd have the equivalent of "crow" or speed brakes. Most times you have a gyro, the TX is set to "normal" wing. The mixing for elevon takes place in the gyro. The neat thing about this gyro is that it incorporates a "steering" gyro, like what one would have when putting on an Assan steering gyro. Makes for very steady, straight line ground handling. A plane like this with such short wheelbase, tends to wander all over the runway. The steering gyro should eliminate that.
                                    That's awesome with the steering gyro. I put an Assan gyro in all of my aircraft and it significantly reduced the damaged wingtips, or wing root snaps on my FW F-18, because it tracks extremely straight once on the ground... I love it and now love my B2 purchase even more.

                                    Comment

                                    • xviper
                                      Hobby Squawk Regular

                                      • Jan 2014
                                      • 8761
                                      • Calgary, Canada
                                      • Send PM

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Gilatrout
                                      I so tired of the attitude that some have over there.
                                      They do seem to promote that with the primordial ooze coming out of the dark, dank places. At times, it's even contagious. That pandemic will never end over there.
                                      Originally posted by rifleman_btx
                                      I bet it would be able to float around nicely power off too. I bet one could fly it like a powered glider and keep it in the air for a very good flight time, thermal hunting and all especially with the span.
                                      Remember that guy who said this B-2 was just like the Eflite Operra? If that's the case, then no. My Opterra is a very poor glider. Power off and it drops quickly. But not all wings are the same. My Phantom FPV wing floats very well, far better than the Opterra. Maybe this B-2 will be more like the Phantom and "should" cost a hundred bucks?
                                      Originally posted by Dougcarr73
                                      I put an Assan gyro in all of my aircraft
                                      Likewise. I'm beginning to put the Assan into almost all of my new planes now. Nice to know this one comes with something like it.

                                      Comment

                                      • MeyerVW
                                        crash test pilot

                                        • May 2020
                                        • 288
                                        • Dude who likes flying.
                                        • Send PM

                                        #119
                                        Flying wing are super efficient. This aircraft showed up at the wrong time for me. It looks great and I hope to get one in the future. Look forward to seeing your flights.

                                        Comment

                                        • JLambCWU
                                          Member

                                          • Sep 2017
                                          • 267
                                          • Send PM

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Alpha

                                          Thanks, Gravy. After the PJ50, we thought the "no promo launch method" was ideal for the B2. Especially fitting, for a stealth aircraft. A bit of"Shock and Awe" to keep us all on our toes. One never truly knows what's coming next from Motion RC.



                                          OPSEC matters!
                                          Without question! Many times Jeremy and I had to land the test and eval bird quickly when someone would show up at the field as we were testing this and the PJ. Many times we simply couldn’t pull it out and test because people wouldn’t leave near sunset! We braved lots of mosquitos in the twilight to get the testing and filming done.

                                          This was April of last year shortly after the maiden flights on both jets. Click image for larger version

Name:	64AD225F-F821-4683-8578-DC29FCC8FB5F.jpeg
Views:	1167
Size:	37.5 KB
ID:	341783

                                          Comment

                                          Working...