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Official Dynam 1500mm B-26 Marauder Thread

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  • quitcherbitchen
    How I learned to love the bomb

    • Jan 2016
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    #1421
    Stock collet adapter?
    Don't just fly--WREAK HAVOC!!!

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    • borntoolate
      Bomber Bob

      • Mar 2013
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      #1422
      Originally posted by quitcherbitchen
      Stock collet adapter?
      No sir. I am not a fan of collets at all. The 11 Hobby Bearcat motors have the stock bolt on prop adapters.

      Bob

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      • quitcherbitchen
        How I learned to love the bomb

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        #1423
        Do they (the motors) directly fit the bolt pattern of the Dynam crapcheese motors? Also, does the flight time diminish? The Bearcat motors are higher KV. Be interesting to see the side by side comparison. Mine flies great once at altitude. Getting there is the hard part. Climb rate with a full load of babies in it's belly makes for long slow painful circles to altitude.
        Don't just fly--WREAK HAVOC!!!

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        • borntoolate
          Bomber Bob

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          #1424
          The bolt pattern are nearly identical. Not exact though. I was able to install 3 of the 4 bolts. The 4th was just slightly off. I will use a different X-mount on the silver B-26 for her upgrade. The green B-26 has not flown yet. I scheduled this weekend for the maiden and I will take both out for comparisons. I will post the data when the test flights are done.

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          • quitcherbitchen
            How I learned to love the bomb

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            #1425
            Thanks Bob
            Don't just fly--WREAK HAVOC!!!

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            • Bearcat
              Hobby Squawk bomber Pilot

              • Oct 2017
              • 176
              • Cincinnati area
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              #1426
              Originally posted by borntoolate
              My second B-26 is now pretty much done. The prop tips have been painted yellow after these pics were taken. She is now ready to join her squadron mates from the 344th Bomb Group in missions at Apollo Field. She does have some mods from the stock plane - motors, ESCs, and landing gear.

              Bob
              I see my Valkyrie is being used more now..sweet!!!
              Just let me fly so I may be free

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              • borntoolate
                Bomber Bob

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                #1427
                Originally posted by borntoolate
                The bolt pattern are nearly identical. Not exact though. I was able to install 3 of the 4 bolts. The 4th was just slightly off. I will use a different X-mount on the silver B-26 for her upgrade. The green B-26 has not flown yet. I scheduled this weekend for the maiden and I will take both out for comparisons. I will post the data when the test flights are done.
                It appears that the scheduled maiden (s) will have to be rescheduled again - due to strong winds predicted. I am disappointed.

                Bob

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                • rifleman_btx
                  me

                  • Dec 2016
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                  #1428
                  Dang that sucks

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                  • borntoolate
                    Bomber Bob

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                    #1429
                    Yeah, predicted winds are ~17mph. I am not a fan of strong winds - especially for maidens. I will be watching the weather report closely and maybe if mother nature gives us a break, we can do the maidens.

                    Bob

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                    • rifleman_btx
                      me

                      • Dec 2016
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                      #1430
                      Ouch! yes whole heartedly agree with that.

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                      • quitcherbitchen
                        How I learned to love the bomb

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                        #1431
                        What do you guys think if I change the battery to sit like this?
                        Don't just fly--WREAK HAVOC!!!

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                        • fhhuber
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                          #1432
                          Originally posted by quitcherbitchen
                          What do you guys think if I change the battery to sit like this?
                          Any way the battery fits that does not throw CG off is fine. (note that CG is a point in 3D space, not a line or plane through the model. It can be off up-down or side-side as well as fore-aft.)

                          If you moved it to aid getting correct CG without adding "dead lead" (or to reduce useless ballast) then you are doing exactly the right thing.

                          I commonly trim some foam to get the battery where I want it or to fit a larger battery. I'd much rather carry a larger battery than useless ballast.
                          FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

                          current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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                          • quitcherbitchen
                            How I learned to love the bomb

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                            #1433
                            Good point FH, but I am doing it for three reasons. One, I hate the velcro straps, they were too far forward for me as I moved my servos to the rear bay and got rid of the tail weights. Two, the rats nest of wires always had to be moved in order to strap the battery. I think if I put in a foam battery bay I can route the wire thru the foam thus making any constant shuffling of wire almost unnecessary. Three, getting the weight in a more vertical plane will make the models vertical CG more centered. Less pendulum being down low. Might effect the roll rate and aileron throws. Right now, the rates seem kind of mushy, but that may just be my expo setting. I figure it is worth a try to make loading the battery easier.
                            Don't just fly--WREAK HAVOC!!!

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                            • fhhuber
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                              #1434
                              moving cg vertically changes the axis of the roll and how much you have to work to hold straight knife edge.

                              distribution of the weight side-side or up-down affects roll rate (how crisply it can do 4 or 8 point rolls). More weight out toward the tips means its harder to start rolling and to stop rolling. The closer the heavy stuff is to the CG the sharper your points and corners will be when trying precision maneuvers.

                              Some planes this matters more than others. Scale bombers never were meant for precision aerobatics.
                              FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

                              current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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                              • quitcherbitchen
                                How I learned to love the bomb

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                                #1435
                                So I didn’t go vertical, but I did use a ramp. Really easy to load the battery now
                                Don't just fly--WREAK HAVOC!!!

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                                • borntoolate
                                  Bomber Bob

                                  • Mar 2013
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                                  #1436
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                                  Since it is so windy today, I had time to work on the B-26s. The battery compartment was a mess with the wiring. so I made a simple cardboard divider to clean it up. Installing/removing the battery is quick and easy now. Cost - nothing. Time to mod - 5 minutes.

                                  Bob

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                                  • rifleman_btx
                                    me

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                                    #1437
                                    All I did was run the reciever under the wing, that really cleaned up mine.

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                                    • borntoolate
                                      Bomber Bob

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                                      #1438
                                      This one has a bomb bay added. That may account for the wire mess, or the former wire mess!

                                      Bob

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                                      • xviper
                                        Hobby Squawk Regular

                                        • Jan 2014
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                                        #1439
                                        Flew mine this morning after having it hang from the ceiling all winter. It reminded me of how wonderful this thing looks in the air. Greased every landing. I can't say that about most of my other planes.
                                        I must admit, however, that those big, fat wheels are somewhat goofy looking. May have to mod them up later with skinnier ones.

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                                        • rifleman_btx
                                          me

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                                          #1440
                                          The only one I swapped was the nose wheel. I might do the mains this year, maybe

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