This is my Apache, UH-1B and OH-58. At first I had my Apache pretty heave because, the tail was heavy now I use the 5S 4000mAh battery and seperate BEC w/ 2S 2550 mAh battery. Took all the weight out of the nose and now my CG is spot on.
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That is half my fleet. Here are is the rest of my Helicopter fleet. I am working on my last one which is the Roban 500 size MH-60L.
That might be high for a 4 blade head. I am running 1400kv motor and with 16T and headspeed about 1600 I do believe. I forgot what my exact headspeed is at but, it is slow because I don't need a high headspeed for lift. Definitely not with a 4 blade head. Have to put my Apache back together and add a separate bec.8 Photos
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Originally posted by Apache500 View PostThat is half my fleet. Here are is the rest of my Helicopter fleet. I am working on my last one which is the Roban 500 size MH-60L.
That might be high for a 4 blade head. I am running 1400kv motor and with 16T and headspeed about 1600 I do believe. I forgot what my exact headspeed is at but, it is slow because I don't need a high headspeed for lift. Definitely not with a 4 blade head. Have to put my Apache back together and add a separate bec.7 Photos
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Really inspiring work, DeltaDart, I'm sure your Apache will be the bee's knees once you've got it fully dialed in how you want.
1700-2100rpm is a good sweet spot in my experience for general purpose. I try to run as low as I can without bogging down. I ran my Apache right about 1800rpm head speed for my style of flying. Good packs make a differenceLive Q&A every Tuesday and Friday at 9pm EST on my Twitch Livestream
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Originally posted by Alpha View PostReally inspiring work, DeltaDart, I'm sure your Apache will be the bee's knees once you've got it fully dialed in how you want.
1700-2100rpm is a good sweet spot in my experience for general purpose. I try to run as low as I can without bogging down. I ran my Apache right about 1800rpm head speed for my style of flying. Good packs make a difference
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5S 4000mAh battery, 1400 kg motor, 16 tooth pinion gear and 120 T main gear that came out to = 2800rpm ?
I definitely got to check my headspeed out. It has be several years since I tested it out but I don't think it was that high.
don't misunderstand me, it is always up to you and we are just passing notes I hope.
I still have a question, Why is your Apache so heavy? Did you armor plate it ? Just kidding..
that is a 500 Apache right?
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Originally posted by Apache500 View PostThose are your Helicopters? You got a great set as well there F106Deltadart. What size are they especially the M.A.S.H. Bell?
Originally posted by Apache500 View Post5S 4000mAh battery, 1400 kg motor, 16 tooth pinion gear and 120 T main gear that came out to = 2800rpm ?
I definitely got to check my headspeed out. It has be several years since I tested it out but I don't think it was that high.
don't misunderstand me, it is always up to you and we are just passing notes I hope.
I still have a question, Why is your Apache so heavy? Did you armor plate it ? Just kidding..
that is a 500 Apache right?
My Apache is heavy due to adding in the gearboxes after converting to a TT drive tail, as well as a lot of scale accessories. It is the 500 size machine. I have a scale cockpit and pilots, servo driven TADS and gun, an actuated Horizontal Stabilizer, and larger 6S power setup. I run 2 3S 3700s in series so they just barely fit beneath the tub of the cockpit.
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Some of the old classic RC helicopters that you cannot get anymore. Lucky you. I got into scale Helicopters and the end when Roban started to slow its sale to RC Aerodyne. I was struggling to find scale bodies and Heliartist stop making Helicopters.
What stab system do you use in your Helicopters? You know I'm gonna have to put my Apache all together and you might be right on that headspead.
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Originally posted by Apache500 View PostSome of the old classic RC helicopters that you cannot get anymore. Lucky you. I got into scale Helicopters and the end when Roban started to slow its sale to RC Aerodyne. I was struggling to find scale bodies and Heliartist stop making Helicopters.
What stab system do you use in your Helicopters? You know I'm gonna have to put my Apache all together and you might be right on that headspead.
For stabilization, I use a variety of units. Most use the ikon2/brain2, but I’ve also used the Demon Axon, and am planning on trying out the Spirit FBL and Spektrum FC6250HX. The ikon/brain seems to be the easiest to setup so far.
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Wow, that must of cost a pretty penny to have that shipped to you and to top it off it came in damage. Now, if you you sell it, how much do you think it worth? I like the old models but, just afraid of a part breaking that is no longer available or even finding what I need and now the whole Helicopter is out of commission.
That's so funny that I have to laugh bud.... I started out with the Ikon/ Brain moved to the Spirit when it came out but, didn't like the setup so much because I fully didn't understand it. I went for the Demon 3XG because, all the scale guys are using it at my field. They claim that it is the best for scale flying there 1/4 scale Helicopters. So,I had to try it out and of course needed help to set the Demon 3XG up and I thought the Spirit was hard to setup lol. Now, after what I learned from setting up the Demon I had to revisit my Spirit w/ gps and installed it in my MH-60L I'm building now.
You know, the Spirit setup is very similar to the Ikon setup and it has the advance setting that I can understand. The only problem is you have to buy it direct and not sold in the USA. The shipping is fast and tech support from Tomas via Email will be answered with 2 days.
You know, I was in the Military as a Mechanic/ Crewchief on the AH-1F Cobra and that's the reason why I like the Military Helicopter over and civilian Helicopter. They just look so menacing in the air, especially when you hover head towards you. I get flash backs lol.
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Originally posted by Apache500 View PostWow, that must of cost a pretty penny to have that shipped to you and to top it off it came in damage. Now, if you you sell it, how much do you think it worth? I like the old models but, just afraid of a part breaking that is no longer available or even finding what I need and now the whole Helicopter is out of commission.
That's so funny that I have to laugh bud.... I started out with the Ikon/ Brain moved to the Spirit when it came out but, didn't like the setup so much because I fully didn't understand it. I went for the Demon 3XG because, all the scale guys are using it at my field. They claim that it is the best for scale flying there 1/4 scale Helicopters. So,I had to try it out and of course needed help to set the Demon 3XG up and I thought the Spirit was hard to setup lol. Now, after what I learned from setting up the Demon I had to revisit my Spirit w/ gps and installed it in my MH-60L I'm building now.
You know, the Spirit setup is very similar to the Ikon setup and it has the advance setting that I can understand. The only problem is you have to buy it direct and not sold in the USA. The shipping is fast and tech support from Tomas via Email will be answered with 2 days.
You know, I was in the Military as a Mechanic/ Crewchief on the AH-1F Cobra and that's the reason why I like the Military Helicopter over and civilian Helicopter. They just look so menacing in the air, especially when you hover head towards you. I get flash backs lol.
Funny of the FBL controllers. I started out with a flybarred 450, and messed with both the Align 3G and 3GX controllers. Literally anything would have been better than them. Clunky, unintuitive, Chinese-translated-to-English software that left me frustrated and confused. The ikon was much more intuitive than either of those. Glad to hear of your experiences with the Spirit. I have the pro unit with GPS setup on standby for my 700 AH-1W.
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Awesome. Great pics. The Apache just looks so good in there air. I’m on a waiting list for his scale tail for my 700. I can’t wait to get it and get my tail vibration issue sorted so I can get her back in the air.
currently I’m building a 600 Airwolf that should be done soon. After that I start my 500 AH-1Z Viper. For that I need a 4 blade tail. I was thinking of asking him if he can make one. Did he make yours?
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Originally posted by Gravythe clown View PostAwesome. Great pics. The Apache just looks so good in there air. I’m on a waiting list for his scale tail for my 700. I can’t wait to get it and get my tail vibration issue sorted so I can get her back in the air.
currently I’m building a 600 Airwolf that should be done soon. After that I start my 500 AH-1Z Viper. For that I need a 4 blade tail. I was thinking of asking him if he can make one. Did he make yours?
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Well I did it. I really enjoyed / enjoy flying the 500 Cobra. while I wait for it to be repaired so I can rebuild, I decided to pick up the 500 Apache. I'll end up running the same setup with the only exception being that it will be belt driven tail. I ordered the same Align 4 bladed main rotor head and the same 500 4 bladed tail rotor as I use on the cobra. I'll wait to figure out the motor kv for sure as I believe the Apache comes with different teeth count main gear. I really like the head speed on my Cobra, so hopefully the same 1600kv motor will work on 4s.
This one will sit for a while as I don't have the 500 mechanics yet for this build. So this will be sometime later this year after I get my 600 MD500 G-Jive.
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I’m staring at my beautiful 500E 600 as we speak. You gonna like how easy the build is compared to that Cobra for sure. It has a Double-Cats 5 blade head but still waiting on blades to fly. I ordered an Align 500XT top combo kit the other day with the intentions of just improving my flying skills but already looking for something to stuff it into later. Sure wish that Apache was torque tube.
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Originally posted by PawPaw View PostI’m staring at my beautiful 500E 600 as we speak. You gonna like how easy the build is compared to that Cobra for sure. It has a Double-Cats 5 blade head but still waiting on blades to fly. I ordered an Align 500XT top combo kit the other day with the intentions of just improving my flying skills but already looking for something to stuff it into later. Sure wish that Apache was torque tube.
I'm really looking forward to the 600 MD500 G-Jive build. I have the Roban 5 blade head already. I have ordered some blades to use just to get it all set up, but when the scale blades come back in stock I will order a set as well.
Speaking of blades I need to comb through the thread here to see if F106DeltaDart posted where he got those nice scale blades for the Apache. I'm going to need a set of them.
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