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  • James
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    Originally posted by quitcherbitchen View Post
    James. "For $1 my only promise that I can control is shouting out your name, and answering any real questions they have in a timely manner. It's far from mandatory." So people that don't pay don't get their questions answered in a timely manner? Just wondering? You mentioned it- not me. Are you trying to make the Motion Channel a "twitch stream".? I am definitely not your demographic. Yes, I watch youtube, but I don't feel the need to pay for any upgrades. The amount of content is too much already. I am not bad-mouthing or attacking anyone. Just don't think a paid subscription channel is worth my time. I don't think I am alone either. Sounds like your whole marketing campaign is already in progress, but if this was a focus group question then I am the guy who didn't like it. No one needs to White Knight on your behalf because I didn't say anything bad about Motion. Just don't like the new idea and said I won't participate. That's it.
    When it comes to youtube questions, our channel has over 1000 videos of 1000's of products from a decade worth of content, every morning I log in and there are 100's of comments (not necessarily questions) scattered throughout all those videos. It would be impossible to reply to every comment so I first try to find the actual questions and answer the ones I can. But many questions are very hard to answer on YouTube, so most of those I direct to our CS department because that's really where people should be going if they want questions answered from Motion RC. They can call and talk with someone, live chat or email. But for $1, for the few who want it, then I will try to get to any of those questions first is all, but again, if I can answer them within a youtube comment. I certainly can't take someone through a full Gyro setup in a YouTube comment for instance.

    And I said, I have 0 intention on adding a $5/$10 tier membership for our youtube channel. The $1 was just to again, be able to clearly see a person within a live chat for instance because their name has a badge next to it. If you have ever watched a live youtube show, the chat can move really fast sometimes, so questions can get lost. Then people have fun littering the chat with coffee cup emojis or whatever. But if every channel member canceled tomorrow, it wouldn't change our channel in anyway. We still have to make videos that let people know what we have available and that they work as expected.

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  • quitcherbitchen
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    James. "For $1 my only promise that I can control is shouting out your name, and answering any real questions they have in a timely manner. It's far from mandatory." So people that don't pay don't get their questions answered in a timely manner? Just wondering? You mentioned it- not me. Are you trying to make the Motion Channel a "twitch stream".? I am definitely not your demographic. Yes, I watch youtube, but I don't feel the need to pay for any upgrades. The amount of content is too much already. I am not bad mouthing or attacking anyone. Just don't think a paid subscription channel is worth my time. I don't think I am alone either. Sounds like your whole marketing campaign is already in progress, but if this was a focus group question then I am the guy who didn't like it. No one needs to White Knight on your behalf because I didn't say anything bad about Motion. Just don't like the new idea and said I won't participate. That's it.

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  • James
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    Originally posted by quitcherbitchen View Post
    OH, Please stop coffee comparisons. You guys are so right. I am not trying to win your support, but I won't support what is death by a thousand pennies. Cumulatively it all adds up. That is toxic. I donate tons of my time and don't ask for anything in return. If I get a thank you then I know it was worth it. Don't count on my $12. Go ahead and do what you want, but don't judge me. Money sometimes blinds and cheapens the results. You know the phrase " if I hand a nickel for every time" well then join the Motion Membership Youtube Channel Club and lord over people like me who still think that not everything should cost a cup of coffee. Oh sorry for the coffee comparison. I just can't justify the expense. I think There are other people that think like me, but with all the hostility based on my 2 cents will be smart enough to keep their mouth shut. Opposite side of the Coin for those in love with money because that is (their) real passion. Notions are not misplaced if I mention them before it goes into effect as in discussion of what I think is a flawed idea. FYI I didn't use the term TOXIC. I said "Sad". Someone else said toxic and that was leveled at me, which makes me feel like I am getting dogpiled for what I feel was a perfectly legitimate statement.
    I am not sure how I personally was being hostile toward you (if you think I was). My last question was just asking, are there any YouTube channels that have helped you make the best decision on an aircraft purchase? And if so, did you use their affiliate link to purchase the plane (which wouldn't cost you any extra money, just the company then pays the influencer a percentage of the sale for doing a good job)

    As far as the $1, it is not mandatory in any way to enjoy the content we are going to provide anyway. We haven't put any crucial content on YouTube behind a paywall and don't intend to. But if there were some kinds of extra content that people would find worthwhile to pay extra for, then I would only consider it if I could consistently deliver what was promised. For $1 my only promise that I can control is shouting out your name, and answering any real questions they have in a timely manner. It's far from mandatory.

    Edit: I just took a look at FliteTest since they are the dominant YouTube RC Channel by a mile. They have 1 membership their for $4.99. That gets you the emoji's, and the badges like ours, but they also let members watch videos early and it says they give a coupon code(s) for their store. It doesn't say how much the coupon is. But to some, that's totally worth it because they love the content FliteTest provides.

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  • quitcherbitchen
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    OH, Please stop coffee comparisons. You guys are so right. I am not trying to win your support, but I won't support what is death by a thousand pennies. Cumulatively it all adds up. That is toxic. I donate tons of my time and don't ask for anything in return. If I get a thank you then I know it was worth it. Don't count on my $12. Go ahead and do what you want, but don't judge me. Money sometimes blinds and cheapens the results. You know the phrase " if I hand a nickel for every time" well then join the Motion Membership Youtube Channel Club and lord over people like me who still think that not everything should cost a cup of coffee. Oh sorry for the coffee comparison. I just can't justify the expense. I think There are other people that think like me, but with all the hostility based on my 2 cents will be smart enough to keep their mouth shut. Opposite side of the Coin for those in love with money because that is (their) real passion. Notions are not misplaced if I mention them before it goes into effect as in discussion of what I think is a flawed idea. FYI I didn't use the term TOXIC. I said "Sad". Someone else said toxic and that was leveled at me, which makes me feel like I am getting dogpiled for what I feel was a perfectly legitimate statement.

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  • SanExup
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    quitcherbitchen You've got to be kidding me. It's $12 a year. And this somehow taints your notion of integrity? I base my willingness to pay on the value of content. If the cost went up and the value of the content did not, then I'd go elsewhere. And I don't disagree that it's up to the consumer to validate the price they are willing to pay. But honestly you are using strong language, like toxic and sad, and that may be true of a lot of things in the world right now. But we're talking about $12 bucks a year, the cost of two cups of coffee from Starbucks, that's toxic and sad. I'm just saying, I hear you but in my opinion your notions are a little misplaced.

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  • quitcherbitchen
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    That is a sad statement. Like I said" we are on opposite sides of the coin"

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  • James
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    If passion and compensation didn't go hand in hand then no one would do anything in life

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  • quitcherbitchen
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    I don't want to drag this out. My point is everybody has their hands out. The ones that want to monetize I will ignore and the ones that do it for the passion I will shake. Now my opinion will cost you a dollar

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  • James
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    quitcherbitchen - Do you have any favorite/go-to RC or other YouTube channels you enjoy watching? Take company YouTube channels out of the equation like Motion RC, Horizon Hobby, HobbyKing etc. I am just talking about the influencer-type channels.

    Do you find yourself buying a plane because you watched an influencer video and liked the information they provided? I think Airguardian is just saying, you wouldn't use their affiliate link? maybe buy a shirt or hat from their merchandise store? or possibly buy a channel membership from them or donate to help them continue providing the content you found useful that they are using their spare time and effort to produce? Like tipping your barber, garbage man, or waitress, these YouTubers are providing a service too that is helpful right?

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  • quitcherbitchen
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    I guess we are just on opposite sides of the same coin. What we find toxic are just opposite. You think my attitude is wrong and I can say that I don't agree with yours so fair to say we agree to disagree. If the money used to promote the product needs a sponsor then have Motion sponsor it. I'll pass on being the sponsor.

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  • James
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    Airguardian - I hear you, man. And that's where I am totally different than a YouTuber like yourself. I am the Marketing Director of Motion RC, a salaried employee. My sole job is to make sure customers and potential customers are aware our store, brand, and products exist and how to buy them. It's my job to find the avenues that our customers and potential customers reside and YouTube is a large portion of that. Most YouTube channels from businesses whether small like Motion RC or large like Disney just use YouTube as an avenue to spread the word about the products and services the business provides.

    Motion RC's YouTube channel isn't a competitor to an influencer channel like Airguardian. People like yourself are doing this in their own spare time either for fun, to make side money or both because it is your passion. So that's why I try my best to help use our platform to send people to you guys. We are not really big enough to support an affiliate program, so this is my best way to try and thank you and others for all that you do. I know your videos have inspired many to try and better their RC flying skill level. And I hope they take the 2 seconds to like, subscribe and then maybe they buy a shirt or drop a donation.

    I would love to see the day an RC YouTuber could get to a level where they could make that their full-time job and business, the ultimate dream.

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  • Airguardian
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    Originally posted by quitcherbitchen View Post
    Everybody tries to reach into wallets and frankly I am tired of it. I would rather donate money to the Planes of Fame museum or some other worthy endeavor.
    That's a great endeavour (donating to plane museums) but from the way you talk about it, it seems you take for granted the work that goes into making (+distributing) videos, even 'silly videos about RC planes' produced with some quality are going to take time, money and a lot of dedication. And pretty much everyone is doing it for free. It hurts me to read comments like yours here (even if not personally directed at me) because they just speak of a mindset that I find toxic. If you think people that put their time and effort into making YouTube videos shouldn't be trying to "reach into anyone's wallets", then I'm sorry to break it to you but you certainly lack appreciation for the effort that it takes.

    If you REALLY like someone's videos and, you should try and consider making a donation or supporting them in some fashion.
    Even if they do it for free, you know?

    It's not like anyone is FORCING you to do anything, geez. Could at least show a bit of gratefulness for people that put their work into bringing you RC videos. That some may charge unreasonable fees for it? Sure, well, don't pay for them, that's easy. No need to b*tch so much about it... more so for the case here in point where we are talking 1$ a month.

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  • James
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    Yeah BluesDragon. The original comment I was replying to made it seem like in order to watch our Live Show you had to pay $1. That's never been the case. But man, if we could ever get our channel to have 30,000 members, then that would mean we probably have 50 million subscribers! That would be incredible.

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  • BluesDragon
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    Originally posted by Ah's Availble View Post
    I heard the comment, but it makes no sense...

    Originally posted by James View Post
    Hey man, James here. $1/month is the bare minimum...
    Oh.. THAT comment! Thanks for clearing that up, James. I guess I misunderstood there.

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  • James
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    Originally posted by RRHandy View Post

    Yes a dollar is not much but when you add it up, let's say 30,000 members and now you have money rolling in every month and what do you have for it, emoji's and shout outs, quitcherbitchen does have a point. My .02.

    R.
    I think you are confusing subscribers with members. It costs nothing to subscribe to a youtube channel. It costs money to become a member of a YouTube channel, which then that channel will provide an added bonus for paying for that membership. A channel membership is not a requirement in any way shape or form to enjoy a channel's content.

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  • RRHandy
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    Originally posted by BigJim View Post
    James, you’re doing great! $1 is almost laughable and not really worth wasting time to discuss. Can’t wait for more live content!
    Yes a dollar is not much but when you add it up, let's say 30,000 members and now you have money rolling in every month and what do you have for it, emoji's and shout outs, quitcherbitchen does have a point. My .02.

    R.

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  • James
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    Be sure to join us today as we are back live in less than 2 hours!

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  • James
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    Appreciate that BigJim !

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  • BigJim
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    James, you’re doing great! $1 is almost laughable and not really worth wasting time to discuss. Can’t wait for more live content!

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  • James
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    Originally posted by quitcherbitchen View Post
    I hope your monetizing to watch infomercials pays off. It won't be me. Everybody tries to reach into wallets and frankly I am tired of it. I would rather donate money to the Planes of Fame museum or some other worthy endeavor.
    In 2020, YouTube changed their policy where they can put ads on any channel they so choose. But watching ads costs no money out of anyone's pockets except the companies who pay to produce ads to reach potential customers. Like terrestrial radio where anyone can listen, there will be ads paid for by companies looking to promote their products. But YouTube itself has YouTube Premium which eliminates ads for a monthly fee. I personally never did that, I will just skip an ad after the 5 second option if I have no interest.

    That's not the same as a membership fee on a specific channel as discussed here, where again, you can choose to pay or not based on what the YouTube channel promises you will get by paying. Like Netflix, HBO Max, Peacock or Hulu. I subscribe to some of those if they have content I want to see and believe is worth it, when I exhaust what I want to watch, I cancel them , but will come back when they provide something I feel is worth that.

    But as a Professional Marketer, your job is to find the avenues that allow the most potential customers to find that your product even exists. Every human being on the planet at this point has probably bought something they didn't know existed that would benefit them in some way because of some marketing person finding them whether by TV, Internet, Billboard, Magazine, Radio, etc, etc, etc.

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