Alternative motor windings and drive schemes

[Clugh]

This is the last time I show your dense ass this. if you cant comprehend you genius, That's on you Boy youre stupid...

[Clugh]

The ESC I can build you would have all these same setup options. Do you have some money??

[Clugh]

You need to wake up Bruder. You're in yesteryear.... and even Talega is 7 years old now BUT still developing here with me and Pavel

I'm at Wolf speed handling SiC everyday and you don't know a damn thing about if. The GaNFets and PCB manufacturing equipment to bring Talega and GaNFet technology to life are about 10 feet away from this pc I view you typing on everyday. I can design program and operate it all.

Keep playing with yourself like you really know something Dr Okon. I know your limits. Triage surgery and wrapping you & your friends motors. Not electrical engineering and def nothing to do with SiC or GaN or any other power transistor or MCU controlled devices. Stay in your lane.

Danke,
Hubert

[Clugh]

Thomas is also wrong because Hargrave, APD and Talega based inverters are not block commutation and he couldnt manage it so he sold his. KISS is also not block . But a synbred commutation. Very ingenious. The YGE works in a similar fashion.

KISS creator JUUT is on rc groups. I told you you all haven't a clue.

[Clugh]

The KISS ESC 32A powered by a M4 MCU is the new member in the KISS family, developed for race copters with power hungry motor/prop combinations. Actively limited to 45A for longevity it comes with all the features of its little brother, the ESC24A re. With a capacitor it can be driven by up to 6s lipos. This ESC is also compatible with Dshot2400 for an incredibly low response time. Features

• 32-Bit-ARM Cortex M4 MCU @ 80 MHz
• Telemetry capability (voltage, current, temperature, rpm)
• Over current protection (measures the current and reduces it to max 45A)
• Over temperature protection (reduces the max power if hotter then 100°C)
• sinHybrid :: Sinwave/BackEMF Hybrid Commutation for smoother running.)
• Dshot 2400 (Full resolution of 2000 steps takes only 6.5μs).
• Supports all common Dshot commands like turtle mode, 3D mode and rotation direction change.
• Expanded adaptive auto timing (3,25-30° advance on each commutation),
• For Race Multicopters (32A continuous also with weak cooling),High max. RPM (500.000ERpm, 71.400Rpm with a 14Pole Motor)
• Small size (19 x 27 mm)
• Accurate RPM control (2000 steps using Dshot)
• No additional capacitor needed for 3-5S. Add a min. 220μF min. 50V Cap for 6S usage!
• Very fast throttle response, Linear throttle response, Active freewheeling (low diode losses)
• Regenerative braking 3-6S LiPo Dshot 100-2400, Oneshot42, Oneshot125 and normal (25 – 500Hz) PWM auto detected.
• Supports FrSky Sbus, Graupner SumD, TBS CROSSFIRE and Multiplex SRXL, S-Port, Graupner HOTT, TBS CROSSFIRE and Sensorbus
• Operating voltage 9 - 30V (3-6s)
• Maximum continuous current 32A, instantaneous maximum current 45A, actively limited
• 600000 ERPM maximum rotation field speed (useage up to 500000 recommended)

Specifications

• Current Draw: 32A Continuous (45A Burst)
• Voltage Range: 2-6s Lipo
• Weight: 3.3g
• Size: 20mm x 26mm x 4.5mm

[Clugh]

JUUt can also absolutely build a larger bridge. Again do you have some money?

[Clugh]

SLS is another that is small and does not use block commutation

SLS-Sinusleistungssteller!

[Clugh]

I think you better get out more and expose yourself and your friends to the market. The MGM comp pro 20063 is 360 grams. Definitely not block commutation.12 kW continuous. If you think YGE is better than MGM you clearly do not know anything about high end inverters. Thats real no insult to YGE but MGM is damn good when you know what you are doing.

[Clugh]

MGM has 3 KW continuous for 80 grams...

You guys are high as hell... Really... you have not a clue what you are talking about over there on the German social media.



Later bruh i see you all have a handle on things...


Ill talk to y'all boys later. Their post are ridiculous I'm sorry I got to go. I get back at you later with more on the Cobra and the hybrid P800

[Clugh]

Henseleit TDR's

[Clugh]

[Clugh]

45 series cobra.

[Clugh]

Imagine if Ralph could actually build something on his dirty lathe besides turning a nut.

Congratulations on turning the bolt...

[Clugh]

Hi Ralph,

So Tareq chose Xnova over your scorpion. Thanks for that information...😉

And I guess ALL the forums have been lead on again???

Another inanimate object from the leaders..... and man I thought everyone had a video camera in 2025.. All these STILL photos don't mean anything and come with no data.

Uve offered zero data for Holle's calculator. On either motor this or the 45....

I wager the 45 is at about 93% and probably around 80 at its load point. Correct me remotely.....

[Clugh]

The winding is 25 mill just the 28 milli baby test wind on the hybrid..

[Clugh]

28 milli hybrid beat you too. At the load point which falls approximately between 1038 -2077 at approximately 1400 watts just draw a vertical line there👀. Guess you can attribute that to more iron LOL!

[Clugh]

Nothing special. A clean 7+6 YY in 1.21mm diameter on factory enamel so just a tad bit more copper than the P650 factory black competition winding it came with. I pushed the 2 turns on top of 5 down in the slot where it can actually contribute better than out at the opening of the slot. We also have a Diablo we might go much more radical on. 16.5 AWG would be really nice and full on there but I'm truly not interested in sanding enamel away to fit just the two 17 AWG wires side by side at the bottom of the slot. Although I've done it on the motor for Andrew Jesky on factory enamel. An 8+8 in 17 AWG. A 6+6 symmetrical winding is possible then an extra turn on one. Either way it wasn't going to be symmetrical and that has to have effect as it the inductance is different between adjacent coils of the same phase. I bet a motor like that truly runs better in one direction as a motor and the other way as a generator. It is what it is but you could experiment which combo actuall runs the best. There is alot of data to capture on the subject matter.

Pilots have interest in the p800 hybrid winding work. Maybe they build a TDFII for it.

Thanks for your time and patience,
Hubert

[Clugh]

Here is 16 turns of 17 AWG on a P650. Quite a bit more copper. on factory enamel. That's key. The pilot saw and empirical improvement of 10% efficiency in his setup which allowed The world champion a few more maneuvers in his F3A programs.

If the wind can be done without modification to the stator then it would be worthwhile to Kontronics or me as a winder to make the job faster with less material used and clean up.I could waste my time maneuvering the wire around to make them pretty and Orth cyclic but U also risk scratching the wire then you have to start all over again and all that copper is wasted or has to be recycled. Since we thermally pot it with an opaque material it doesn't matter anyway.

[Clugh]

Das könnte Christian gefallen. Es ähnelt Simons Projekt. Es ist 3D-druckbar mit ein paar Komponenten namhafter Hersteller. Es ist ein lustiges kleines Projekt, um es zu Hause zu bauen und die Leistungsmerkmale zu testen. Der Alpha verwendete einen 2208 Scorpion. Vielleicht probiere ich es aus und drucke mir selbst einen. Man kann den empirischen Effekt an viel kleineren Maschinen testen. Man muss keine Euros ausgeben, um etwas zu bestätigen. Das gefällt mir sehr. Ich könnte damit im Haus etwas kaputt machen. Das wäre lustig.

[Clugh]

Personally I like the new genesis from Goblin in a larger 800 class vehicle.