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  • mr.frankenjet
    Eat, sleep, FLY FLY FLY !

    • Jan 2016
    • 448
    • Virginia, USA
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    #1781
    standing by............
    rc flyin addict

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    • TomPatton
      XNitroJunkie

      • Jan 2017
      • 279
      • Elida Ohio
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      #1782
      Originally posted by Jhnybgd
      I just hope it is truly grass friendly

      BTW when are the nose gear pins going to be back in stock for the F4?
      I also hope this one is 420 friendly!!!:wacky:Silly:

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      • Apache Jets
        Hobby Squawk Jet Pilot

        • May 2016
        • 151
        • San Antonio Texas
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        #1783
        With all the hype.... I hope it is not a big disappointment !!! I would rather they handle it like FMS, they have been knocking it out of the park at a lot quicker pace without all the fan fair and bling that MRC generates.. Kinda like fake news.. Over time you end up tuning it out and ends up like. "Who cares anymore" and move on to other things.
        My Hangar inventory FW 90 mm hp F-15, FW 90 mm F-104, FW 90 mm T-45, FW 80 70mm F-5, FW 80 mm Scorpion, 70 mm V2 Z Rebel, F-8 Bearcat and a stable of T-28, white and Orange and yellow

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        • MikeT
          Here......Hold my beer.

          • Jan 2016
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          #1784
          Originally posted by Apache Jets
          With all the hype.... I hope it is not a big disappointment !!! I would rather they handle it like FMS, they have been knocking it out of the park at a lot quicker pace without all the fan fair and bling that MRC generates.. Kinda like fake news.. Over time you end up tuning it out and ends up like. "Who cares anymore" and move on to other things.
          I'll take Motion over FMS any day. Take the A-10 FM doesn't hold a candle. I

          Mike
          \"When Inverted Down Is Up And Up Is Expensive\"

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          • rifleman_btx
            me

            • Dec 2016
            • 5246
            • West Point TX
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            #1785
            I beg to differ on the A10. Smaller easier to transport and flys on rails. Also 150 dollars cheaper, plus another hundred off if you count the extra battery pack you have to buy for the money put freewing. And you dont have to modify the gear to keep it from bouncing. Finally I never needed any thrust line modification, as mine never dipped the nose or anything from idle to max throttle. I will say (although I do this with near every large servo numbered plane), I did add an external bec for a safety measure. The original escs are still going strong even in 100+ degree heat. I believe it's all in how you set up and treat your equipment. But as it stands. 0 issues out of my A10, the only foul was, it doesn't hold up well to road signs. LOL

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            • MikeT
              Here......Hold my beer.

              • Jan 2016
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              #1786
              Originally posted by rifleman_btx
              I beg to differ on the A10. Smaller easier to transport and flys on rails. Also 150 dollars cheaper, plus another hundred off if you count the extra battery pack you have to buy for the money put freewing. And you dont have to modify the gear to keep it from bouncing. Finally I never needed any thrust line modification, as mine never dipped the nose or anything from idle to max throttle. I will say (although I do this with near every large servo numbered plane), I did add an external bec for a safety measure. The original escs are still going strong even in 100+ degree heat. I believe it's all in how you set up and treat your equipment. But as it stands. 0 issues out of my A10, the only foul was, it doesn't hold up well to road signs. LOL
              To each there own. My experience with a friends had nothing to do with the size but the quality of the retracts ( failed on the 1st flight) and servos (nervous and won't center).. I base my opinion on that and that alone. I've experienced similar shortcomings in other FMS products. To this day all my FMS air-frames are still going strong without a single issue..

              Mike
              \"When Inverted Down Is Up And Up Is Expensive\"

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              • Woodcock
                Old Returning Pilot

                • Apr 2018
                • 830
                • SoCal
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                #1787
                Originally posted by MikeT

                I'll take Motion over FMS any day. Take the A-10 FM doesn't hold a candle. I

                Mike
                Well now! I would probably bet 20 bucks that FMS is the foundry plant that actually produces some of if not all of the Freewing/Flightline models. Call it just a hunch. Hmmm FMS, could that mean, Foam Molding Specialties? I have had a few FMS models, and sincerely there not perfect, (non are) but the fit and especially the finish are second to none. Just say en.

                Best Regards
                Woody

                PS, I have solid faith in both FMS & FW/FL. I favor FW/FL because of the great Motion customer service. But FMS products are in fact good products, and I know this from experience. W

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                • Woodcock
                  Old Returning Pilot

                  • Apr 2018
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                  #1788
                  Originally posted by MikeT

                  To each there own. My experience with a friends had nothing to do with the size but the quality of the retracts ( failed on the 1st flight) and servos (nervous and won't center).. I base my opinion on that and that alone. I've experienced similar shortcomings in other FMS products. To this day all my FMS air-frames are still going strong without a single issue..

                  Mike
                  Ya know Mike, servos just ain't what they use to be. But god there so cheap these days, I have a hard time fathoming how they make them so cheap. If you consider the mass quantity there making I'm surprised there's not more failures. That's why I test em, and test em, and test em., haven't found a bad one yet, (I have about 24 models) But I always hear and read about failures. Just haven't had anything happen to me yet. If I see anything get the slightest bit twitchy I would change it out. But everything I got has been rock solid. I have 5 Dynam planes. Servos all good.

                  Ya know in the old days, (1971) servos never failed, at least I never heard of a servo failure.

                  Woody

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                  • rifleman_btx
                    me

                    • Dec 2016
                    • 5246
                    • West Point TX
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                    #1789
                    My retracts handle a field with 4inch tall grass without missing a beat. No sign of trying to rip loose, as my p38 just did Sunday. However that seem to be a problem with most all the brands mounts. Just didn't seem to have much glue on the mount to handle that much weight on a grass field. To its credit I will say it did hold up until it stopped saving my props and its underbelly from getting scrapped up.

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                    • Apache Jets
                      Hobby Squawk Jet Pilot

                      • May 2016
                      • 151
                      • San Antonio Texas
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                      #1790
                      You guys missed my point entirely.. I wasn't pitting FMS against MRC.. I was commenting on the fan fair and hopla on their product announcements.. FMS... F-18F, F-16, T-45... Boom.. They were there..
                      My Hangar inventory FW 90 mm hp F-15, FW 90 mm F-104, FW 90 mm T-45, FW 80 70mm F-5, FW 80 mm Scorpion, 70 mm V2 Z Rebel, F-8 Bearcat and a stable of T-28, white and Orange and yellow

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                      • Apache Jets
                        Hobby Squawk Jet Pilot

                        • May 2016
                        • 151
                        • San Antonio Texas
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                        #1791
                        They all have great products..
                        My Hangar inventory FW 90 mm hp F-15, FW 90 mm F-104, FW 90 mm T-45, FW 80 70mm F-5, FW 80 mm Scorpion, 70 mm V2 Z Rebel, F-8 Bearcat and a stable of T-28, white and Orange and yellow

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                        • Woodcock
                          Old Returning Pilot

                          • Apr 2018
                          • 830
                          • SoCal
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                          #1792
                          Originally posted by Apache Jets
                          They all have great products..
                          Yea, I kinda did. My sincere apology. But I do hear ya, and agree 100%. Bottom line Apache, I got them all tuned out all of the time. LOL, This is something I do when I have a little down time at work.

                          Woody

                          PS Ya better keep that stinger away from me!

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                          • MikeT
                            Here......Hold my beer.

                            • Jan 2016
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                            #1794
                            Originally posted by Apache Jets
                            You guys missed my point entirely.. I wasn't pitting FMS against MRC.. I was commenting on the fan fair and hopla on their product announcements.. FMS... F-18F, F-16, T-45... Boom.. They were there..
                            No I got the point. You think FMS handles new releases better than Motion. I also don't agree with "boom, they were there". No worries carry on..

                            Mike
                            \"When Inverted Down Is Up And Up Is Expensive\"

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                            • MikeT
                              Here......Hold my beer.

                              • Jan 2016
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                              #1795
                              Originally posted by rifleman_btx
                              Of course they do, I'm just not gonna stand by when someone cuts down my plane that flys to perfection. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Especially when theres not a damn thing wrong with it. As evident in this video.
                              I didn't cut "your plane down" I posted my thoughts on FMS products from MY experience. Get over yourself..........................................

                              Mike.

                              \"When Inverted Down Is Up And Up Is Expensive\"

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                              • Apache Jets
                                Hobby Squawk Jet Pilot

                                • May 2016
                                • 151
                                • San Antonio Texas
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                                #1796
                                I don't need all the ballons, conffeti, and dancing girls on a product announcements.
                                My Hangar inventory FW 90 mm hp F-15, FW 90 mm F-104, FW 90 mm T-45, FW 80 70mm F-5, FW 80 mm Scorpion, 70 mm V2 Z Rebel, F-8 Bearcat and a stable of T-28, white and Orange and yellow

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                                • MikeT
                                  Here......Hold my beer.

                                  • Jan 2016
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                                  #1797
                                  Originally posted by Apache Jets
                                  I don't need all the ballons, conffeti, and dancing girls on a product announcements.
                                  I must have missed all of that from Motion. Normally it's the pre order buyers that do all that.

                                  Mike
                                  \"When Inverted Down Is Up And Up Is Expensive\"

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                                  • Woodcock
                                    Old Returning Pilot

                                    • Apr 2018
                                    • 830
                                    • SoCal
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                                    #1798
                                    Originally posted by rifleman_btx
                                    Of course they do, I'm just not gonna stand by when someone cuts down my plane that flys to perfection. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Especially when theres not a damn thing wrong with it. As evident in this video.
                                    Nice flying Rifleman! Watch out for them sign boards.

                                    Woody

                                    PS I got the 65mm A-10 from freewing. Havent assembled it yet though. Looking forward to it. Have realized something, no one ever posts about it anymore. Has me just a bit worried.

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                                    • Hardway
                                      Hobby Squawk Moderator

                                      • Mar 2017
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                                      • Willow Park, Texas
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                                      #1799
                                      OK gents..... ;) Group hug!!! And a tequila shot for all!!! :Drinks:

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                                      • Woodcock
                                        Old Returning Pilot

                                        • Apr 2018
                                        • 830
                                        • SoCal
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                                        #1800
                                        Originally posted by Hardway
                                        OK gents..... ;) Group hug!!! And a tequila shot for all!!! :Drinks:
                                        @#%&........
                                        Best Regards
                                        Woody

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