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  • Tigerman
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    #6101
    Want to put the Freewing Tail Flame afterburner in the Mig 29.The dual Tailfame afterburn is no good because it has 2 separate motors .So I was thinking of buying 2 single separate Tailflame afterburner and installing them on each motor .Will that work ?

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    • kallend
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      #6102
      Originally posted by Tigerman
      Want to put the Freewing Tail Flame afterburner in the Mig 29.The dual Tailfame afterburn is no good because it has 2 separate motors .So I was thinking of buying 2 single separate Tailflame afterburner and installing them on each motor .Will that work ?
      Unless they've changed it recently the Tailflame controller turns on at a stupidly low throttle setting (like 15%). It looks silly to see a jet taxiing with afterburner on. If you do a search you'll find a thread somewhere that describes how to fix it.

      But they are cheap.

      EDIT: Here's the fix: https://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc...004#post407004

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      • Evan D
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        #6103
        Yes, two of these.

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        • TorqueRoller
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          #6104
          Originally posted by Nino
          What the heck crashed my MiG-29 on final approach today jet headed straight nose down and was totally destroyed. After investigation noticed that one of the elevators detached itself from its mounting plastic bracket very little glue was used. This is unacceptable from free wing.
          Just finished my Red Star version, this has me concerned. Mine seem super solid. I will definitely include this check on my pre-flights. After seeing this I was considering laying some fiberglass overlapping that area, but like I said, mine seem real solid. Sorry to see this happen to you, that's about the worst way to lose a good plane.

          You didn't happen to have any impacts on the tail before this event? Anything you think you might have missed, or just a case of bad quality control on this particular bird?

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          • kallend
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            #6105
            Originally posted by Nino
            What the heck crashed my MiG-29 on final approach today jet headed straight nose down and was totally destroyed. After investigation noticed that one of the elevators detached itself from its mounting plastic bracket very little glue was used. This is unacceptable from free wing.

            Glue is expensive, apparently. Canard detached from my Rafale yesterday. Fortunately no crash ensued.

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            • Captain Moron
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              #6106
              Originally posted by Tigerman
              Want to put the Freewing Tail Flame afterburner in the Mig 29.The dual Tailfame afterburn is no good because it has 2 separate motors .So I was thinking of buying 2 single separate Tailflame afterburner and installing them on each motor .Will that work ?
              Well I screw that up .Installed two separate Tailflame afterburners to each motor .Tried it out, all worked fine .Both afterburners worked fine .Put it all back together a tried it again. Connected the two lipos ,both motors work fine .Connected one balance lead all OK
              Connected second balance lead to second lipo got one almighty flash and the afterburner did not work on that motor but the other motor still work fine .Must of burnt it out by getting something wrong .So I have only 1 motor with the afterburner working. Just ordered a new Tailflame afterburner and try again🤨

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              • kallend
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                #6107
                My "Do-It-Yourself afterburners" run two (or even four in a B-1B) independent tailpipes from a single controller. No risk of that kind of "almighty flash" problem.

                https://youtu.be/pp_Pu0bHiBQ

                https://youtu.be/WWvHbaPgdK8

                And they don't turn on at taxi thrust either.

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                • Hugh Wiedman
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                  #6108
                  Originally posted by Tigerman
                  Want to put the Freewing Tail Flame afterburner in the Mig 29.The dual Tailfame afterburn is no good because it has 2 separate motors .So I was thinking of buying 2 single separate Tailflame afterburner and installing them on each motor .Will that work ?
                  I Know you've been spending money on the Tail Flame, but I have to say Chris Wolfe's (RC Geek) afterburners are the best IMO, but not cheap. 🤑 Put those in my Mig 29, as well as 14 other EDF's. Controller is already set up for 2 burners if you need it, with each burner having independent flickering when they come on and you can easily set at what throttle they come on with a push of a button. In 5 years, no issues.

                  Bright in sunshine and when overcast.


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                  Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
                  Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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                  • paulrkytek
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                    #6109
                    Birthday coming up next month so at last I have bought the latest version of the Mig 29 Digital camo and the thrust vectoring kit complete with upgraded stab servos and 2150kv 12 blade inrunners ( installed this fan on my F86 and it had plenty of power and 3,5 mins flight time on Admiral 4000mah 40c packs weighing 585gms so I will probably fly with 4000mah packs, separate 20amp BEC, 600mah 2s lipo, Hobby eagle Super 4 gyro.. I will be setting cg at 15mm back from marks and putting 3mm reflex on flaps and ailerons and maybe a bit of landing gear strengthiening .as well. I would appreciate any thoughts on initial tv unit nozzle alignment, photos etc and any flap to elevator settings for landing approach.

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                    • kallend
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                      #6110
                      Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman

                      I Know you've been spending money on the Tail Flame, but I have to say Chris Wolfe's (RC Geek) afterburners are the best IMO, but not cheap.
                      That's because you haven't seen my Do-It-Yourself afterburners. Up to FOUR independent tailpipes from a single controller (B-1B, Concorde), fully configurable. The controller will also drive the Tailflame lamps, which he already has.

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                      • Hugh Wiedman
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                        #6111
                        Originally posted by kallend

                        That's because you haven't seen my Do-It-Yourself afterburners. Up to FOUR independent tailpipes from a single controller (B-1B, Concorde), fully configurable. The controller will also drive the Tailflame lamps, which he already has.

                        Visible too:

                        John, I did not know that. They looked outstanding on the B1. I learn something new every day, which is not hard since my brain is an empty slate! 🤣
                        Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
                        Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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                        • MetallDanny
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                          #6112
                          Really enjoying my Mig-29
                          its a beast and takes of grass witout no problem!!
                          I use a AR637T with satellite antenna
                          AS3X+ with thr-based-gains









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                          • MetallDanny
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                            #6113
                            Spaghetti is gone 😁🍜

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                            • Elbee
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                              #6114
                              MetallDanny, Very Nicely Done, Sir. Best, LB
                              "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
                              ~Lucky B*st*rd~

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                              • kallend
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                                #6115
                                MetallDanny,​ nice job on the wiring.

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                                • Mouken
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                                  #6116
                                  Hello, of course im new. I have a mitchell b25 bomber from flightline. Im trying to put the reciever in but i cant fivure it out. I have a futaba r3008sb reciever but my manuel for my radio doesnt give where to plug everything. Can you help please?
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                                  • Mouken
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                                    #6117
                                    This is what im working with
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                                      #6118
                                      Originally posted by Mouken
                                      Hello, of course im new. I have a mitchell b25 bomber from flightline. Im trying to put the reciever in but i cant fivure it out. I have a futaba r3008sb reciever but my manuel for my radio doesnt give where to plug everything. Can you help please?
                                      What previous models have you flown?

                                      And are you aware that this is not the B25 thread?

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                                      • Evan D
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                                        #6119
                                        1-aileron, 2-elevator, 3-throttle, 4-rudder, 5-retracts, 6-flaps, 7-bomb drop.

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                                        • Hugh Wiedman
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                                          #6120
                                          Originally posted by MetallDanny
                                          Spaghetti is gone 😁🍜

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                                          Nice wiring, until they come up with wireless servos and on board Wi-Fi, the "spaghetti" wiring demon will continue to plague us all. Some time ago, Jandro ( Airguardian ) had suggested in this forum to locate the RX under the "floor boards" to help alleviate some of the mess in wiring. Obviously I follow all of his suggestions faithfully and did just that on my Mig and F18. The only negative is the reduction in cargo space for my hidden on board illicit contraband. The AR 10360T is under the back battery tray and I also installed a Hobby Eagle gyro for the TV nozzles back there and off to the side. A remote satellite is located up in the nose as well. I was able to place the 2 SMC HiV 5900 batteries with one all the way back and the other in the front bay, with the Castle 20amp BEC in the middle, and still get it to balance at least 25mm behind recommended CG. Maybe the extra weight in paint , TV nozzles, afterburners, 3D printed nozzles and relatively light weight of those packs allowed me to use the front and back bays and still get the CG I wanted without adding any tail weight.

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                                          One of my F18's with the RX under the tray, satellite way in the back.

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                                          Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
                                          Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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