Official Freewing 80mm EDF F-86 Sabre Thread

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  • Rcjunkey
    Love that RC stuff since 1990

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    #341

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    • C17loadmaster
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      #342
      Mine is set up the same way except I don’t have a piece of wood between the battery and ESC. It’s is directly in the intake airflow on one side and flat with the battery tray. I’ve flown this plane more than any other EDF.

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      • C17loadmaster
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        #343

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        • Ron1950
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          #344
          Flew the f86 today off a great tar surface. It was first few flights sense i installed the fms 2000 kv in runner wow this plane with the upgrade motor is a beast. Fast. Sounds great. Powerfull vertical etc. hoghly recomend this new fms fan.

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          • Rcjunkey
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            #345
            Does the FW F-86 need any elevator mix with flaps?

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            • C17loadmaster
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              #346
              Originally posted by Rcjunkey
              Does the FW F-86 need any elevator mix with flaps?
              No, I have none set. My landing flaps are set up for maximum deflection too. They’re almost 90 degrees down

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              • Rcjunkey
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                #347
                Originally posted by C17loadmaster

                No, I have none set. My landing flaps are set up for maximum deflection too. They’re almost 90 degrees down
                Good to know thank you for the quick response.

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                • C17loadmaster
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                  #348
                  Originally posted by Rcjunkey

                  Good to know thank you for the quick response.
                  No problem. The low wings are easy to set up flaps and elevator mix. High wings like the F-14 require a ton of up elevator. I actually destroyed my F-14 on my second flight by testing full flaps while flying too fast and too low. I added a 3 second delay to make them more scale and in doing so made them too slow to retract before it exploded into the ground like you wouldn’t believe

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                  • DCORSAIR
                    My R/C addiction started in 1984

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                    #349
                    Originally posted by C17loadmaster

                    No problem. The low wings are easy to set up flaps and elevator mix. High wings like the F-14 require a ton of up elevator. I actually destroyed my F-14 on my second flight by testing full flaps while flying too fast and too low. I added a 3 second delay to make them more scale and in doing so made them too slow to retract before it exploded into the ground like you wouldn’t believe
                    :Scared: Wow, I bet that was a mess of foam..........:Crying:

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                    • C17loadmaster
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                      #350
                      Yes it was...

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                      • rifleman_btx
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                        #351
                        Ouch!:(:Crying:

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                        • fhhuber
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                          #352
                          Its not a high wing vs low wing issue.

                          Its the wing geometry vs the flap geometry in relation to CG. (among other factors)

                          At speed, the F-14 acts somewhat like a flying wing and the flaps act like elevons. (yes, I have one)

                          I've seen this with a few swept wing models.

                          I had a Nitroplanes Falcon 120 that I stuck a 5 inch EDF on. Programming the ailerons for elevon the ailerons had more pitch authority than the elevator. Because of the huge EDF nacelle blocking airflow over the horizontal tailplane, I could completely lose pitch control with the elevator when chopping throttle, but could loop on the ailerons in elevon mode.
                          FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

                          current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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                          • C17loadmaster
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                            #353
                            Originally posted by fhhuber
                            Its not a high wing vs low wing issue.

                            Its the wing geometry vs the flap geometry in relation to CG. (among other factors)

                            At speed, the F-14 acts somewhat like a flying wing and the flaps act like elevons. (yes, I have one)

                            I've seen this with a few swept wing models.

                            I had a Nitroplanes Falcon 120 that I stuck a 5 inch EDF on. Programming the ailerons for elevon the ailerons had more pitch authority than the elevator. Because of the huge EDF nacelle blocking airflow over the horizontal tailplane, I could completely lose pitch control with the elevator when chopping throttle, but could loop on the ailerons in elevon mode.
                            with the wings extended or retracted? I understand the rest of what you are saying

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                            • Ron1950
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                              #354
                              where did the edit button go?

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                              • fhhuber
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                                #355
                                Originally posted by C17loadmaster

                                with the wings extended or retracted? I understand the rest of what you are saying
                                I don't recommend trying to put the flaps down with wings folded back... You'll strip the servos.

                                There's enough sweep with the wings extended for the flaps to act like elevons. Amplified if you linked ailerons to flaps for scale flap system.
                                FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

                                current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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                                • wvrailfan
                                  HobbySquawk Pilot

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                                  #356
                                  We are expecting several days of rain starting tonight or in the morning, remnants of Hurricane Florence, so I figured I'd get in a couple of flights today. I forgot the drop tanks at home, so it may look a little nekkid.

                                  I am starting to like this plane.

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                                  • C17loadmaster
                                    Retired USAF Aircrew

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                                    #357
                                    Here’s a clip of a nice sunset flight. The F-86 is so fun and stress free.

                                    Sorry about the dog barking. I have my wife video. I refuse to wear a camera on my head


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                                    • Elbee
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                                      • Feb 2018
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                                      #358
                                      C17LM, Bravo Zulu. Best, LB
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                                      • Alpha
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                                        • Feb 2015
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                                        #359
                                        Nice flights, guys! Wvrailfan, stay safe in Florence. I'm sitting through this Super Typhoon making its way near Hong Kong right now. Only indoor flying today!
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                                        • RCjetdude
                                          Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

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                                          #360
                                          You stay safe too... The remnants of Florence will be passing right over us tomorrow. Expected to be a little wet and windy but nothing like the coast saw.

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