Official FlightLine F4U-1A Corsair 1600mm (63") Wingspan

[Hugh Wiedman]

Thanks Elbee, so many things to consider. The instrument panel?? I thought MRC was selling them, but can find nothing in the website. Got to get rid of that baby face pilot as well. BTW, the pilot you have in yours is a definite must.

Grossman56

Grossman56 For what it's worth (coming from me not much ), the warbirdspilot.com with servo for moving head fits, at least it did in my bubble top. I also installed Chris' RC Geek random servo generator and it works great. Pilot fit by removing a small amount of foam at the seat and taking his boots off. This allows the pilot to work the horizontal and vertical stabilizers in case I'm incompasitated from whiskey as those servos are at his feet. Just saying. 🤗

[jetfool]

Grossman,

Take advantage of Davegee's offer for help, I have seen his P-47 in a flying museum in florida and I believe all his models that he modifies are museum quality. Wish he or Elbee were my neighbors. I am friends with Mike Barbee and Greg Hahn in our meetings at contests and they freely give good modeling advice as I pick their brains.

Best Regards, Rex

[Elbee]

FlightLine_Corsair_Bubble_Top_Cockpit_3DPUP-stl_files.zip

Grossman56

These are 'modified' STL files for the Original Cockpit set offered by Motion RC.

It's a start.

Best, Steve

[Grossman56]

Great idea, Grossman! You'll love the Corsair and it works very well for our field here in Cody. Let me know how I can help. You have several sources you can tap on this thread, or I am happy to help you from a local level.

Cheers

Davegee

Thanks Dave, I was hoping we could put our collective minds together. I was just watching a video where the fellow 'weathered ' the prop using salt. Very interesting. He soaked the prop with water, then used coarse salt in a varying pattern, let it dry over night and sprayed the prop with a very light coat of dark grey, repeated the process twice and then used steel color paint and fine steel wool to create a chipped effect on the prop. It was pretty cool. Also, he weathered the roundels and other decals by using a scotch brite pad on them. Never heard of this before but pretty cool!
Possibly, Dave and I can shoot some video on the process Meantime, check out this fellows video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7McIE3t9HDo

Grossman56

[Grossman56]

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Grossman56

These are 'modified' STL files for the Original Cockpit set offered by Motion RC.

It's a start.

Best, Steve

Thanks Elbee! Guess I'm a little late to the party, but better late than never.

Grossman56

[Elbee]

Thanks Elbee! Guess I'm a little late to the party, but better late than never.

Grossman56

You're not late, in fact, better to own the last edition of a great model than the first.

I do not know how far you're going with your cockpit mod, though these modified STLs are good, there will still be some foam surgery required.

I want to assist where I am able, so any issues with the files, let me know when you know.

As for the pilot figure, it is a Max Greuter design available for purchase in STL format on the cults3D website.

It will require sizing to print and patience to assemble, if you go that route.

Looking forward to seeing your progress, the model is the pick of the litter for me.

Best, Steve

[davegee]

Thanks Dave, I was hoping we could put our collective minds together. I was just watching a video where the fellow 'weathered ' the prop using salt. Very interesting. He soaked the prop with water, then used coarse salt in a varying pattern, let it dry over night and sprayed the prop with a very light coat of dark grey, repeated the process twice and then used steel color paint and fine steel wool to create a chipped effect on the prop. It was pretty cool. Also, he weathered the roundels and other decals by using a scotch brite pad on them. Never heard of this before but pretty cool!
Possibly, Dave and I can shoot some video on the process Meantime, check out this fellows video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7McIE3t9HDo

Grossman56

Hi Dan: interesting technique for weathering the prop. I have heard of it, but never done it myself yet. Might be worth trying with your model. We might like to start with a spare or broken blade from some airplane to see how it goes before trying your model. To be sure, the Corsair prop blades suffered with all the abrasive coral sands chipping paint off of the blades. Worth looking into.

Cheers

davegee

[Grossman56]

Yes, it's definitely different and I have enough spare props kicking around! also interesting what he did to the hub as well, looks like a wash going around it. I went searching for pictures for inspiration and found this, it's a Black Sheep bird, but what's interesting is the weathering around the bottom of the fuse from the coral dust, pretty intense.



Also, am I correct in assuming that the insignia has the red border ?

Update, the package has been shipped, repeat the package has been shipped!!!

Been a while since I've had the 'New Plane Anticipation' , feels good.

Thanks Elbee!! I haven't decided how far I want to go, but a cockpit would be something new, haven't used 3D printed parts before so naturally I'm curious. Last cockpit was BBD, about 9 years ago and that was with parts I had laying around that I worked on to resemble the pieces.



As for the pilot, yours looks amazing where mine and all the other planes have ol' Porcelain Pete in them, gets boring after while and I have a wall of them. Even the guy in BBD got replaced with an Aces of Iron pilot, well I used the bottom half of this guy and planted the AOI pilot on top of him, Frankenstein like.

Grossman56

[davegee]

Yes, it's definitely different and I have enough spare props kicking around! also interesting what he did to the hub as well, looks like a wash going around it. I went searching for pictures for inspiration and found this, it's a Black Sheep bird, but what's interesting is the weathering around the bottom of the fuse from the coral dust, pretty intense.



Also, am I correct in assuming that the insignia has the red border ?

Update, the package has been shipped, repeat the package has been shipped!!!

Been a while since I've had the 'New Plane Anticipation' , feels good.

Thanks Elbee!! I haven't decided how far I want to go, but a cockpit would be something new, haven't used 3D printed parts before so naturally I'm curious. Last cockpit was BBD, about 9 years ago and that was with parts I had laying around that I worked on to resemble the pieces.



As for the pilot, yours looks amazing where mine and all the other planes have ol' Porcelain Pete in them, gets boring after while and I have a wall of them. Even the guy in BBD got replaced with an Aces of Iron pilot, well I used the bottom half of this guy and planted the AOI pilot on top of him, Frankenstein like.

Grossman56

Hi Dan: the red border around the star and bars was a short-lived modification in 1943. It changed to a blue surround after that. So, with a little research we could put the correct markings on for you. You are a big guy like I am with historical accuracy with your models. I have found that I always needed to pick a specific time during the war, and that would be how the airplane looked at that time. Some of the airplanes that survived a while during the war went through lots of insignia and color changes as time passed. At any rate, getting your model to look correct shouldn't be a big issue, we'll figure it out.

Cheers

Davegee

[davegee]

Hi Dan: the red border around the star and bars was a short-lived modification in 1943. It changed to a blue surround after that. So, with a little research we could put the correct markings on for you. You are a big guy like I am with historical accuracy with your models. I have found that I always needed to pick a specific time during the war, and that would be how the airplane looked at that time. Some of the airplanes that survived a while during the war went through lots of insignia and color changes as time passed. At any rate, getting your model to look correct shouldn't be a big issue, we'll figure it out.

Cheers

Davegee

Hi Dan: I found an article that describes the changes in the stars and bars insignia over the years. You can see that the red surround only lasted scarcely 2 months before being changed. But that doesn't necessarily negate using the red surround for planes that were active like the birdcage Corsairs during that time.

Here's the link: https://www.aircorpsart.com/blog/tim...GUUrd3y4RmpL27

Davegee

[Grossman56]

Got home from work today to find Santa came early

I'm amazed because the projected delivery date was Tuesday, so three days early
So, opened the box and checked everything out, wow the foam just gets better and better on these models. The only thing I noticed was when I removed the battery hatch cover, the battery tray and mount were not attached to the fuse. They were screwed together, but not glued in place.


As you can see, there is not glue residue on the foam but there's a fair amount of glue on the wooden attachments. Looks like it was never put in place. No big deal, had some of the "White Tube" glue that came with the Avanti (?) so ladled it on and put the unit in place.
So like WOW, it's big, I have a spare Spitfire prop assembly and compared the blades, the Corsairs are a fair amount longer.

As for scheme, I really like the barless roundels, so I'm sticking to that.
I'd like to go with a Marine squadron, but I read where marine pilots, at least in VMF 214, weren't assigned a specific airplane, they grabbed whatever was available. For instance, Boyinton preferred the birdcage Corsair and the publicity pics of him in 'Lucybelle' were staged. Now, what does tweak my interest is VMF 214 #17740 which is the airplane whose wings the squadron is standing on in the famous baseball hat picture.

Now, in the pic, she has the correct roundels and the side and L/G numbers would be 740. Unless I can find more pictures, that's about all the details I can put on her and be accurate. But again, if no one was assigned a specific airplane, that may be all she had.

Boyington sitting in 740

Interesting, still researching....

Grossman56

[Elbee]

Grossman56

Is 740 a Tri-Color -1a? Very interesting, Holmes.

Best, Watson

[GIBlackmomba]

I love my F4U Corsair but, I am having trouble getting the tailwheel to work correctly. I am using a programable Spektrum AR636 receiver. I programmed the gear into position 5 (using the Spektrum programmer). The mains work correctly. However, plugging the tailwheel servo lead into the nosewheel slot on the blue control box does nothing. If I plug the servo lead into the gear slot (on the blue box) then the wheel moves all the way left or all the way right. Either way I am unable to steer the Corsair on my NX8 transmitter. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[Grossman56]

I'll be digging into mine today and I'll get back to you. It should go into the nose wheel slot if I'm not mistaken. Is it possible you have it plugged in opposite to what it should be? Try reversing to position by flipping the plug the other way.

[Grossman56]

Grossman56

Is 740 a Tri-Color -1a? Very interesting, Holmes.

Best, Watson

I have a bigger picture in one of my books of Pappy in to cockpit and he's definitely in740 and its definitely a birdcage. Another thing I noticed just lastnight, after having seen this picture of the boys on the wings many times over the years is that one side of the underwing (left side from the cameraman's view) is the stars and bars while the right side is the barless insignia!
Figure that one! The only thing that makes sense is that they were in the process of converting from barless to bars. Here's another as she's taxiing out , nothing on the starboard wing and its really difficult to say what the insignia is on the portside. Fuse definitely has bars now. Another interesting fact is that she isn't listed as lost or written off, so she was a survivor.


Grossman56

[Grossman56]

By the way, there are different versions of that bat and ball pic. The one on the cover of my book shows seven on each wing and seven, including Boyington on the ground in front of the airplane.

[Grossman56]

So basically she's assembled now. Had a bit of wrinkling on the portside wing tip but no biggie. Added the two nose weights and putting one of the 4500 Admirals all the way forward the CG looks good, basically she's now the same as the two Spitfires, 4500s all the way forward and 5000s slightly back, perfect!
So what are you guys using for elevator throws. I've heard through Wes' videos that he's turned them down to 42% and ailerons to 85%. I realize everyone is a bit different but I'm thinking of setting my highs on 50 mids on 42 and lows on 40. Opinions??
BTW, the barn doors aka flaps are literally hanging way down. Got to get together with DaveGee and to some comparisons.
Here she is in all her glory. That prop is huge, compared to the Spitfire, each blade looks to be at least 3/4" bigger, so an increase of about 1-1/2" in diameter. Wow.


So, are the spare springs softer or harder than the installed strut springs? The stock tires are just short of a rock but not by much. Robarts!

Grossman56

[davegee]

So basically she's assembled now. Had a bit of wrinkling on the portside wing tip but no biggie. Added the two nose weights and putting one of the 4500 Admirals all the way forward the CG looks good, basically she's now the same as the two Spitfires, 4500s all the way forward and 5000s slightly back, perfect!
So what are you guys using for elevator throws. I've heard through Wes' videos that he's turned them down to 42% and ailerons to 85%. I realize everyone is a bit different but I'm thinking of setting my highs on 50 mids on 42 and lows on 40. Opinions??
BTW, the barn doors aka flaps are literally hanging way down. Got to get together with DaveGee and to some comparisons.
Here she is in all her glory. That prop is huge, compared to the Spitfire, each blade looks to be at least 3/4" bigger, so an increase of about 1-1/2" in diameter. Wow.


So, are the spare springs softer or harder than the installed strut springs? The stock tires are just short of a rock but not by much. Robarts!

Grossman56

Lookin' good, Dan! I highly recommend the 3.5" Robarts in place of the stock tires. It's not as big a deal as it was replacing the stock tires on the E Flite 1.5m P-51D that in my opinion REALLY needed them, but the Corsair lands much better with them on.

Have you thought about which aircraft you plan to represent with your model?

davegee

[Grossman56]

Still shopping around. As I mentioned up above, 17740 of VMF 214 is tempting as she seems to have been a survivor. Can't find her on the list of wrote offs or losses. She also seems to have been an insignia 'transition' airplane, according to the picture so I could get away with leaving the roundels on. Again, pilots were not assigned an aircraft, they took whatever was available, at least in the early days, so other than the number, they just looked weathered and beat up. I'm leaning toward that airplane.

Grossman56

[Elbee]

So basically she's assembled now.Grossman56

G56, Looking Sah-Weet. Robarts are the way to go in my opinion. Helps with the spring rates, too. Full throws were a bloody nightmare for me on my first check flight, especially in roll. Pitch rate was too high as well. I did not tune in any Expo, however. Best, LB

[f4u ausie]

This corsair does not need alot of elevator.. mine is around 8 or 10 mm,, (i like mm),, it can b pitchy with to much travel.. im thinking ur a scale type!, so whatever elev travel u decide on,, move the pushrod to innermost hole, on the servo end, then adjust the% to get desired travel.. rich baker(rc informer) did it on his,,, definatly makes 4 a smooth non pitchy scale flyer, still loops nicely,, but in a nice round circle.. ive found the other surfaces less sensative.. the other thing i found early,, ease into the power withe that big prop.. or it will end upside down on the runway.. really only needs half power to get up... the spitfire never (does not) do that,, gross once ur sorted ur goina luv it.. mines been awsome to me ,, (a bit worn) and still keeps asking 4 a zeek to play with lastly those old pics u guys have r awsome,, i think books r the answer,, a little but not heaps online,, have fun🙃