Official FlightLine RC 1200mm F8F-1 Bearcat Thread

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  • Beeg
    So many planes. So little time!

    • Dec 2016
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    #801
    It is not a speed demon. If you want speed and crazy climb you'll need to do a mod.

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    • rckruser
      Retired Engineer/ AMA IP Instructor

      • Feb 2020
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      #802
      Originally posted by Cchrissyv1
      I know this is an old post, but I have had the Bearcat for about a year now. I also have the FlightLine FW-190. Is it just me, or is the Bearcat just much slower compared to other warbirds? I noticed my FW-190 is wicked fast compared to the Bearcat at just over half throttle. But the Bearcat even at full throttle appears to just be cruising. I did not go through all of the pages in this thread, but I was able to catch some pilots mentioning some motor mods. Is this warbird just not a speed demon? I want to make sure mine is not a defect.
      See my post #813. I finally got to fly the Bearcat with the upgrade package. Noticeably faster and much better vertical climb. Well worth the $$$. One of my fellow flyers was flying a EF P-51 1.2m on 4 cell and the Bearcat was a little faster. That surprised me. That said it's still not as quick as the FL FW-190 especially with the zip tie mod.

      Bernie

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      • Alpha
        Former Motion RC Staff

        • Feb 2015
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        #803
        Cchrissyv1 Regardless of the stock power system or upgraded power system, ensure your throttle is calibrated properly, as well.


        The 1.1m Fw-190 is more slippery than the 1.2m F8F, and the wing loading, wing shape, and airfoils are also different. The F8F is more stable during high speed bank and crank maneuvers, while the Fw-190 is more fast in a straight line.

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        • Grossman56
          Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

          • Jun 2014
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          #804
          Heck, just do what I did, redrilled the motor mount holes and installed a 650 kv and upgraded the ESC to 85A. Used the 1400mm FMS Corsair prop. Speed demon!

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          • Cchrissyv1
            Chris LEFTY

            • Mar 2019
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            #805
            Originally posted by Alpha
            Cchrissyv1 Regardless of the stock power system or upgraded power system, ensure your throttle is calibrated properly, as well.


            The 1.1m Fw-190 is more slippery than the 1.2m F8F, and the wing loading, wing shape, and airfoils are also different. The F8F is more stable during high speed bank and crank maneuvers, while the Fw-190 is more fast in a straight line.
            Thanks, Alpha! I have been flying for a few years and never once thought of that. Learn something new everyday. I guess I should have also read my transmitter user manual
            Happy flying!

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            • Mad Baron
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              • Sep 2017
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              #806
              What be a good adhesive to glue in the retracts into the wing. I was looking at the flex glue stuff.

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              • Beeg
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                #807
                A lot of folks here will say Foam-Tac but I usually use 5 or 15 minute epoxy since they tend to pop out at the field and I want a quick fix while I'm there.... Be careful with epoxy as it does generate heat and the more you use the more heat it produces. The foam is fairly thin from the retract to the top leading edge of the wing on the FLRC Bearcat.

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                • OV10
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                  • Sep 2014
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                  #808
                  Originally posted by Mad Baron
                  What be a good adhesive to glue in the retracts into the wing. I was looking at the flex glue stuff.
                  Etract or the plastic gear box ?? Use White Gorilla for the gear box if you want a good solid non flexing joint that the glue actually expands into the nooks and crannies of the foam cells for a really good bond.
                  Gorilla is all I use for structural gluing and Foam Tac for less demanding cosmetics
                  Warbird Charlie
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                  • Evan D
                    I'll fly anything

                    • Jan 2016
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                    #809
                    I use the white tube glue, very similar to Foam Tac, that comes in the kits, works perfect. The issue isn't the type of glue the factory uses, it's the amount. If you look at the part that got pulled out you'll see very little made contact.

                    GG will work too but I hate how messy it is. Epoxy doesn't adhere well to the foam.

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                    • wldecker
                      "This aggression will not stand!"

                      • Jun 2018
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                      #810
                      It's taken me 4 years to finally get one! I started watching this post from the beginning, but Motion would keep releasing new planes and knocking this one down the list! I'm talking to you 1600mm warbirds! Lol! I'm a big Blue Angels fan, I just hope Arizona sunshine won't popcorn the finish too bad...it should be here Oct 1, via Fed Ex. I'm still waiting weeks for a USPS pkg!

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                      • Grossman56
                        Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

                        • Jun 2014
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                        #811
                        Give it several coats of
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                        Except get the gloss finish,
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                        'nuff said

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                        • dahawk
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                          #812
                          I've been vascillating between the Arrows 1100mm and this 1200mm version. Hear that the FL version does not handle grass very well. One of the reasons I fly mainly jets is that Im not constantly walking down the field uprifhting nose o
                          Currently flying: Twin 80mm A-10, 80mm F5, 80mm A6, 70mm Yak-130, 70mm F-16v2,90mm Stinger 90, 70mmRC Lander F9F, Flightline F7F TigerCat, Phoenix 46 size Tucano, Flyzone L-39
                          Out of Service: 80mm Mig-21,64mm F-35, 64mm F/A-18
                          I Want: 80mm A-4, twin 80mm F4J Phantom

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                          • combatflyr
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                            #813
                            Looks great Grossman, what did you apply the clear with?

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                            • Grossman56
                              Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

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                              #814
                              I use an old 1/4" oil paint brush as I have several laying around. They're very splayed out and fairly soft, not stiff bristles. I have used a foam brush as well, but prefer a soft bristle brush. I apply it pretty liberally and lay it out front to back, in the direction of the airflow, keeping an eye out for runs. Once applied, I'll hit it with a hair dryer to set it up, then let it air dry for several hours. It will get more glossy with more layers, I generally go for at least four layers. BTW, I apply the decals first and then use the clear coat to seal them as well.
                              Dang, I miss that plane!
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                              • tab28682
                                RC addict

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                                #815
                                Originally posted by Grossman56
                                I use an old 1/4" oil paint brush as I have several laying around. They're very splayed out and fairly soft, not stiff bristles. I have used a foam brush as well, but prefer a soft bristle brush. I apply it pretty liberally and lay it out front to back, in the direction of the airflow, keeping an eye out for runs. Once applied, I'll hit it with a hair dryer to set it up, then let it air dry for several hours. It will get more glossy with more layers, I generally go for at least four layers. BTW, I apply the decals first and then use the clear coat to seal them as well.
                                Dang, I miss that plane!
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                                Grossman56
                                Very nice!

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                                • WrightBrosRC
                                  All Things Aviation

                                  • Feb 2019
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                                  #816
                                  Is anyone still flying these?
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                                  • Randy H
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                                    #817
                                    I have two Bear cats, one i Have done as a vintage Reno racer. Callie graphics. Click image for larger version

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                                    • WrightBrosRC
                                      All Things Aviation

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                                      #818
                                      A classic.
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                                      • Grossman56
                                        Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

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                                        #819
                                        Originally posted by WrightBrosRC
                                        Is anyone still flying these?
                                        Lost my last Bearcat in the sun without a good result and haven't had one in a couple of seasons. Really miss that bird so she's on my list of birds to buy. Interestingly, I see you have a Bearcat painted in Bill and Corky Fornoff colors. I'm seriously thinking of going that route with the next one.
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                                        Great job!

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                                        • WrightBrosRC
                                          All Things Aviation

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                                          #820
                                          Originally posted by Grossman56

                                          Lost my last Bearcat in the sun without a good result and haven't had one in a couple of seasons. Really miss that bird so she's on my list of birds to buy. Interestingly, I see you have a Bearcat painted in Bill and Corky Fornoff colors. I'm seriously thinking of going that route with the next one.

                                          Great job!

                                          Grossman56
                                          Thx! I was hoping to fuel a Reno style racing series at my club before covid restrictions and such. I put a camera on the Rare Bear yesterday. I wasn't sure what to expect after clipping the wings, but it doesn't seem to care.

                                           
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