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  • andrew_flyguy
    Just wanna fly

    • Jun 2018
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    #241
    Originally posted by Flanker271
    Thanks for all the inputs guys, it sounded like I'm screwed:Crying:. My entire fleet of 14 planes and 22 batteries all use Deans.
    Don't dread it too much, man. I've changed my entire fleet several times. Deans > EC3 > XT60. And it seems every jet comes with EC5 so I always have to change them to XT90 (I prefer not to use adapters).
    Just set aside a few hrs on a quiet day, put on some music, and get to it. :Cool:

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    • crxmanpat
      Certified Foam Abuser

      • Oct 2014
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      #242
      Originally posted by Flanker271
      Thanks for all the inputs guys, it sounded like I'm screwed:Crying:. My entire fleet of 14 planes and 22 batteries all use Deans. Most of them are 6S applications. Time to convert some of the planes that I most cared about into EC5.
      Don't feel too bad, four years ago I was in the same position where all of my planes were using Deans Ultra. But most of those were 4S setups or less. Once I started getting the 6S jets, I began using the EC5 connectors. I still use Deans for everything 4S and below, but EC5 for everything above that. One advantage to converting is that every time you add in an adapter, you're loosing a little in the power transfer. And since all Freewing jets come standard with EC5, there's no converting connectors.
      Pat

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      • Felixs10
        Felix S.

        • Feb 2017
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        #243
        I just jumped on the 6s PNP bandwagon .. And now the wait begins ..LOL I have been a part of every preorder with the exception of the F4 .. This will be my 1st 90mm .. :)

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        • Flanker271
          Spool up that fan!

          • May 2017
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          #244
          What's interesting is I've converted many of my 6S Freewing jets and 6S Admiral batteries from EC5 to Deans in the past, now I'm going to undo my own carnage. :pop

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          • Felixs10
            Felix S.

            • Feb 2017
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            #245
            On a different note I must say I was impressed with Motion's handling of warranty claims . I preordered the L39 , and had an issue with a faulty servo , put in a ticket , no big deal , had a replacement in less than a week.. Fast forward to this past weekend and wanted to put the fuel tanks on and realized I was missing one of the tanks .. I was honest in my contact and said I may have lost it , I wasn't sure ..since there are no pics on spare parts , I wasn't sure what to order. To my surprise I had an email that a set was being sent out to me ! This simple gesture is one of the reasons I keep ordering from MRC !

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            • Flanker271
              Spool up that fan!

              • May 2017
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              #246
              Originally posted by Felixs10
              On a different note I must say I was impressed with Motion's handling of warranty claims . I preordered the L39 , and had an issue with a faulty servo , put in a ticket , no big deal , had a replacement in less than a week.. Fast forward to this past weekend and wanted to put the fuel tanks on and realized I was missing one of the tanks .. I was honest in my contact and said I may have lost it , I wasn't sure ..since there are no pics on spare parts , I wasn't sure what to order. To my surprise I had an email that a set was being sent out to me ! This simple gesture is one of the reasons I keep ordering from MRC !
              This is why I will always buy from MRC. Not only is their customer service top notch, the products they sell are also high quality and reasonably priced.

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              • JamesonC
                MRC fanboy

                • Feb 2017
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                #247
                Originally posted by Felixs10
                I just jumped on the 6s PNP bandwagon .. And now the wait begins ..LOL I have been a part of every preorder with the exception of the F4 .. This will be my 1st 90mm .. :)
                I am actually on the opposite end. I have never pre-ordered a plane. I am just that weird guy that hates paying for something then waiting for it to show up down the road. I always wait till they are in stock and grab one up. BUT, I couldn't risk missing out on the first shipment on these so this was my first ever pre-order! Can't wait till it gets here!!!

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                • purduephigam
                  Jet degenerate

                  • May 2017
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                  • Plainfield, Illinois
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                  #248
                  Originally posted by Flanker271
                  Thanks for all the inputs guys, it sounded like I'm screwed:Crying:. My entire fleet of 14 planes and 22 batteries all use Deans. Most of them are 6S applications. Time to convert some of the planes that I most cared about into EC5.
                  See my "winter is coming post." Ohio winters can't be much better than ours. You'll have plenty of time to transition everything ;)

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                  • paladin
                    model customizer since 1968

                    • Jul 2017
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                    #249
                    alpha and james, we fly off grass. grass that forces us to let the humidity decide if we pack jets or not. do you have any experience in grass? And which setup (6s or 8s) works beat in grass?

                    Joe
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                    • Alpha
                      Former Motion RC Staff

                      • Feb 2015
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by paladin
                      alpha and james, we fly off grass. grass that forces us to let the humidity decide if we pack jets or not. do you have any experience in grass? And which setup (6s or 8s) works beat in grass?

                      Joe
                      Hi Joe, I posted this on the previous page to someone who asked a similar question:

                      Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC

                      Yes, the F-22 can operate on short grass fields like the F-4. The F-22's taller single nose wheel cuts through grass easier than the F-4's smaller double wheel, while the F-4's main wheels give a wider stance than the F-22's narrower main wheels.

                      You can see a takeoff and landing on grass at the end of the flight review video that James posted earlier:



                      Of course, "grass" is subjective term and varies per user, so another way we try to address the question is to ask if you have any of our other 80mm or 90mm jets? The F-22 uses tall wheels like the F-4's mains, which coupled with the F-22's light wing loading and very small naca aux inlets make it one of our most capable 90mm EDFs to operate on grass. Basically if you can't takeoff with this stock 6s F-22, your grass probably isn't suitable for any of our 90mm or 80mm EDFs. By contrast, if you are operating 80mm or 90mm EDFs from Freewing off of your grass now, then it's safe to say you won't have any more of a problem with the stock 6s F-22.

                      8s power will increase your static thrust which for any jet will get it going faster, sooner. But I'd still refer to my previous statements about the stock 6s F-22's capabilities.


                      Originally posted by JLambCWU

                      Could we get you to measure out the dimensions of the exhaust nozzles on a small diagram and get the exhaust opening measurements as well?

                      I’m sure others like myself would appreciate it.

                      thanks!

                      J

                      Each exhaust nozzle measures ~66mm x 34mm, with slightly rounded corners.


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                      • Twowingtj
                        If It Flys, I'll Try It

                        • Dec 2016
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                        #251
                        Originally posted by paladin
                        alpha and james, we fly off grass. grass that forces us to let the humidity decide if we pack jets or not. do you have any experience in grass? And which setup (6s or 8s) works beat in grass?

                        Joe
                        Hey Joe, Some of the product vids show the F-22 flying from and back to grass. I'm confidend and have the 6S pre-ordered. I know it will fly easily from our field. Esp the way Clark keeps the grass cut shortLOLLOL. Hard to get him off that mower.

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                        • C17loadmaster
                          Retired USAF Aircrew

                          • May 2018
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                          #252
                          In regards to the eBay and Amazon adapters I have bought many, I cut off the shrink wrap on a few and the actual connection between the two types is about 50% the size, or gauge, of a EC5. I only use them in 3s applications

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                          • C17loadmaster
                            Retired USAF Aircrew

                            • May 2018
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                            #253
                            Originally posted by fieldofdreamsflyer
                            To old and bad back
                            I realized right after I posted that I would need an age waiver to join too. I was just kidding anyway I say that to kids working crappy jobs

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                            • Pete Lane
                              Turbine lover

                              • Mar 2017
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                              #254
                              Sigh....Alas.
                              Turbocharging this model has not been recommended by its creator. I see it going on at that other forum. To each his or her own. To me that's what the F-5 etc is for. Mine will remain stock on 6S.

                              Pete

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                              • Mikkelb

                                • Jul 2017
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                                #255
                                Howdy, Not sure if this has been mentioned before. But is it possible to get a list of the colours/paint numbers for the F-22? I know the likes of Lowe's and Bunnings can do colour matching, my own experience however its touch and go if its actually right. But like in a plastic model kits having the paint numbers etc would be handy for things like repairs, or painting over the decals to fit new ones...Food for thought. Or if anyone knows/has experience removing these types of markings without taking the paint with it. That would help too.

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                                • C17loadmaster
                                  Retired USAF Aircrew

                                  • May 2018
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                                  #256
                                  It’s listed in the first few pages of this thread

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                                  • wcessna
                                    Yes, my name is Cessna...

                                    • Sep 2018
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                                    #257
                                    So will the 8s perform like the 6s if you just use a 6s in it? Thought being I get the 8s and use my 6s batteries when the 8s ones are drained... thanks..

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                                    • Mikkelb

                                      • Jul 2017
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                                      #258
                                      Originally posted by C17loadmaster
                                      It’s listed in the first few pages of this thread
                                      Ah Jolly good, Thank you sir!

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                                      • RCjetdude
                                        Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

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                                        #259
                                        Originally posted by andrew_flyguy

                                        Don't dread it too much, man. I've changed my entire fleet several times. Deans > EC3 > XT60. And it seems every jet comes with EC5 so I always have to change them to XT90 (I prefer not to use adapters).
                                        Just set aside a few hrs on a quiet day, put on some music, and get to it. :Cool:
                                        That is what I do. I buy XT90S's off of eBay by the case! LOL

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                                        • T-CAT
                                          Senior Member

                                          • Jan 2016
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                                          #260
                                          Originally posted by wcessna
                                          So will the 8s perform like the 6s if you just use a 6s in it? Thought being I get the 8s and use my 6s batteries when the 8s ones are drained... thanks..
                                          No. It will perform poorly in the configuration you stated. That would not be recommended at all.

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