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Originally posted by Evan D View PostDon't know or care John...
Fact is a $25 steering gyro will outperform the best R/C pilot in keeping a plane straight on the takeoff or landing roll, especially in a crosswind.
Some planes are well behaved, others, such as the Avanti, definitely benefit.
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Originally posted by kallend View Post
Ignorance is bliss.
Fact is a $25 steering gyro will outperform the best R/C pilot in keeping a plane straight on the takeoff or landing roll, especially in a crosswind.
Some planes are well behaved, others, such as the Avanti, definitely benefit.
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Originally posted by kallend View Post
Ignorance is bliss.
Fact is a $25 steering gyro will outperform the best R/C pilot in keeping a plane straight on the takeoff or landing roll, especially in a crosswind.
Some planes are well behaved, others, such as the Avanti, definitely benefit.
Mike\"When Inverted Down Is Up And Up Is Expensive\"
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Originally posted by kallend View PostFact is a $25 steering gyro will outperform the best R/C pilot in keeping a plane straight on the takeoff or landing roll, especially in a crosswind.
Some planes are well behaved, others, such as the Avanti, definitely benefit.
There are 2 B-2s at our field - mine and a friend's. My friend's is very suseptible to cranking around 90 degrees when it hits a small bump. It has no steering gyro. Mine has one and it is quite straight and controllable UNLESS it hits a bigger bump in a crosswind take off. Then the gyro doesn't help all that much. I try not to take off in a crosswing with this plane and I try my best to avoid the lumps and bumps. Our runway will soon be rolled (GeoTex fabric over packed dirt), so I'm expecting B-2 take-offs to become non-events.
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Originally posted by Icarus the 2nd View Post
Thanks!
Davegee
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Got in the maiden flight on the B-2 this afternoon at Thunderbird field. The aircraft was modded with shorter gear, corrected nosewheel position, a sequenced nose gear door, and scale sized pilots. It flew excellent and required very little power. Definitely presents a unique profile in the air.6 Photos
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Congrats! Is it safe to say no Vstab on the maiden as well? You rebel!My YouTube RC videos:
https://www.youtube.com/@toddbreda
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Originally posted by Aros View PostCongrats! Is it safe to say no Vstab on the maiden as well? You rebel!
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Originally posted by F106DeltaDart View Post
Yep, no clear fin for me. Didn’t seem to be an issue as long as you coordinate your turns with rudder. The aircraft requires a lot of rudder input in a bank, almost as much rudder as aileron. Setup was all done per Jeremy Solt’s video. Not a single click of trim was needed.
Gravy
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Caution - There is that “one” gust out there just waiting to grab you by the short hairs upon landing.
After making a lot of flights and after making a couple of nose gear repairs, it is inevitable if you fly the B-2 in much wind….a gust (or gusts in succession) will hit you at the wrong time.
You will be money ahead if you only fly the B-2 in light winds…no matter your skill. This caution is offered for what it’s worth.
I consider myself a good RC pilot. But…..I learned my lesson with the B-2. Lucky once, lucky twice….sure, but a gust will get you eventually, if you fly in much wind.
Offered as an example (all this within 6 ft of altitude): GUST/BOUNCE/POWER APPLIED FOR A GO-AROUND/WING DIPPED/CORRECTED/ANOTHER GUST INTO THE “CORRECTING” ROLL INPUT/CORRECTION INPUT/RAPID OPPOSITE ROLL/OPPOSITE AILERON APPLIED TO CORRECT AGAIN/ROLLING PIO NOW/NOSE PITCHED UP/INSTANT SNAP ROLL TO INVERTED (extremely fast roll to inverted)/IMPACT INVERTED
Soooooo….caution is offered about gusts and flying in much wind. I’m gonna fly the B-2 only in VERY NICE light wind conditions…..lesson learned. Take heed! I have other birds to fly on windy/gusty days.
LOL - The snap roll sucked the energy from her plus the headwind brought the ground speed to zero. She only got a minor scuff to the battery cover. See photo…sooooo lucky!!! Will you be?
-GG
PS: To the armchair quarterbacks analyzing the above, I admit….I screwed up. But, be aware that I have well over a hundred B-2 flights under my belt, so a novice B-2 pilot I am not. If an evil gust is out there waiting for you….why allow it to get you, too?
The point is….in light wind conditions, you will have lots of great landings! In the gusty wind conditions, I got bit. Quoting a popular book…”You lay down your money, and you take your choice!” It is my hope that you will not experience a bad landing.
ZOOM IN….I still don’t believe it!
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Originally posted by davegee View Post
Very cool you were flying at Nordhausen. We were on a holiday many years ago through Germany, and stopped off to see the Nordhausen Mittlewerk WWII rocket factory in the mountains there. How far was your flying field from that museum?
Thanks!
Davegee
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I admire the sh*t out of all of you guys that have jumped in both feet on this one, but I'm not sure I'll ever be ready for the B2... I'm still fully capable of flat-spinning my little FW 64mm F18 with no understanding of what happened...
I'd turn the B2 into strained popcorn in no time...🤣🤣🤣
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Originally posted by Icarus the 2nd View Post
You have an excellent memory! The Mittelwerk rocket factory is just a few miles NW of Nordhausen town. The EDF meeting is situated a few miles south of Nordhausen, near a small town called Hain.
Cheers
Davegee
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Originally posted by jasmith41 View PostI admire the sh*t out of all of you guys that have jumped in both feet on this one, but I'm not sure I'll ever be ready for the B2... I'm still fully capable of flat-spinning my little FW 64mm F18 with no understanding of what happened...
I'd turn the B2 into strained popcorn in no time...🤣🤣🤣
As with pretty much all RC planes, there is a learning curve. That’s part of the fun and challenge of this hobby.
Yep….Right now, my heart begins to race every time the B-2 is turning final.
But, looking back:
1) The F-4 suffered several broken nose gear pins while I learned. Now, pretty much every landing is a non-event.
2) The AL37 “seemed to be” a handful in winds. But with practice and experimenting with expo…landings are non-events. I did add a gyro eventually. Easy now.
3) Don’t get me started on the PJ-50. I was ready to hang her from the ceiling for display. After great first impressions, the more I flew her, the more challenging she became (esp in windy conditions). Someone suggested adding a gyro. Now she’s my “go to” bird for VERY windy conditions. She lands so well in wind. Solid flyer!
At the moment, after over 100 flights, I don’t feel the B-2 will consistently tame in windy conditions. EVERYTHING must go just right when it is windy to pull off a good landing. Maybe I am wrong on this. But when a landing goes bad….it goes really bad AND fast!
So, the challenge of the B-2 is taken on willingly to experience the thrill of seeing her in the air. But, after a couple of near disaster landings….I’ve decided to challenge myself LESS by sticking to light wind days. Helps keep the heart rate lower on final, too.
Challenging? Sure. But otherwise we’d be sitting on a couch watching TV. Risking doing the walk of shame? No doubt.
But, I once read an article that said, “Do something each day that scares you a little. It helps maintain a sharp mind and a healthy body system.” LOL - Flying the B-2 in wind will keep us all VERY sharp and healthy!
-GG
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