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  • Twowingtj
    If It Flys, I'll Try It

    • Dec 2016
    • 1907
    • Southerntier, NY
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    #5041
    Originally posted by OV10
    And so the ol' saying of bigger flies better;)

    I just can't have a myriad of warbirds @ 80"+ spans to store:(
    Just got to get creative WBC. Having one at 147" and one at 110" you find a way.

    Big props to all the new creative liveries out there. Some really nice work.

    Finally got a break in the weather and got maiden +2 flights in on the Iron Hog yesterday. What's not to like. It's a joy to fly.

    CG at 88mm and could go back a little more . One click left ail and 2 clicks up and she was flying hands off. Nice solid scale flight at 1/2 throttle. Hard bank and yank at 3/4 throttle is more than enough. Full throttle vert is strong, but looks really out of character for this bird. The bird felt so solid, we were into straiffing runs 2ft off the deck by the 4th pass. Landings are easy on full flaps with the nose carried a little high and manage throttle to a gentle touch down. Landed at the 4 minute mark with 30%(3.8v) in the Admiral 5000mah 50C packs.
    After the maiden jitters settled, it was nothing but smiles and fun. Two more are being ordered by fellow club members. These new birds just keep getting better. Well done FW and MRC!:Cool:

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    • TiredIronGRB
      Post-Apocalyptic Tactical Consultant

      • Jan 2016
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      • Church Hill, Tennessee
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      #5042
      Originally posted by OV10

      HUH..........I missed this one some how :Confused: Hadn't heard that there was issues. What's the deal here TI :Thinking:
      Tames down the bouncing.
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      • t33jetman
        Professional foam carver , EDF modifier

        • Mar 2017
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        #5043
        This is where I got the idea for the paint job for my A10 from a guy , who does modeling. Click image for larger version

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        • OV10
          >>>Twins are 2X the Fun<<< (Squawk Moderator)

          • Sep 2014
          • 4264
          • Owego, NY
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          #5044
          Originally posted by Twowingtj
          Just got to get creative WBC. Having one at 147" and one at 110" you find a way.
          TJ,
          Creativity is getting my sweeties acceptance that 30 warbirds is not obsessive. LOL
          Having an AOPA Hangar that allows your club to store big birds there also helps ;)
          Congrats on maiden:Cool:
          The other 2 members expecting to have theirs in time for the Festival of Giants?
          You n I got to get together a couple times to work a show routine or shall we just as I say in my clubs paper "Wing It with Warbird" :)
          Warbird Charlie
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          • ColtPilot
            Hobby Squawk Advanced Pilot

            • Jun 2015
            • 538
            • Saint Clair Shores, Mi
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            #5045
            Originally posted by OV10

            TJ,
            Creativity is getting my sweeties acceptance that 30 warbirds is not obsessive. LOL
            Having an AOPA Hangar that allows your club to store big birds there also helps ;)
            Congrats on maiden:Cool:
            The other 2 members expecting to have theirs in time for the Festival of Giants?
            You n I got to get together a couple times to work a show routine or shall we just as I say in my clubs paper "Wing It with Warbird" :)
            When is your festival of giants? Which club?

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            • xviper
              Hobby Squawk Regular

              • Jan 2014
              • 8747
              • Calgary, Canada
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              #5046
              Originally posted by RickVB

              No XViper, you misunderstand. You missed where I said "instead of the flight battery." The BEC was NOT powered when I plugged in the receiver battery. However, plugging a flight battery in with the BEC connected (unpowered) to the receiver also results in voltage being applied at the BEC *outputs*, which apparently does not work. This was not on an A-10, by the way, but rather the FL P-38 I believe.
              Sorry, I must be a bit dense. I went and re-read your first post about this and your reply here and still can't visualize how you've got things hooked up that would fry the BEC. I also have the FL P-38, which should be a similar principle when it comes to BECs and external power sources.
              Are you saying that the "unpowered" BEC was being fed juice but "backwards"? You plugged in a flight battery (4s for a P-38) into the RX? That's a lot of volts pumped into a RX, no?

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              • Twowingtj
                If It Flys, I'll Try It

                • Dec 2016
                • 1907
                • Southerntier, NY
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                #5047
                Originally posted by ColtPilot

                When is your festival of giants? Which club?
                Binghamton Aeros in Chenango Bridge, NY Four days Aug 10th - 13th

                WBC, Yes, we should get some practice in. Don't need any Pilot Ryan P-47 action LOL. Not sure if the other Hogs will be able to fly. I see they are currently OOS :Scared:.

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                • downwindleg
                  Hobby Squawk intermediate pilot

                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1279
                  • Friday Harbor, Washington
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                  #5048
                  Originally posted by TiredIronGRB

                  I cut 3/8" off the nose spring to soften it and cut one coil from the mains to make them stiffer, works great and would do it again.
                  Thanks T I. So did you have to rebend the springs to hook over the pegs on the gear or what ? Brad

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                  • Sonicman
                    Hobby Squawk Student Pilot

                    • Apr 2017
                    • 9
                    • Maple Valley, WA
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                    #5049
                    Does anyone at MotionRC have an ETA on when this will be back in stock?

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                    • ColtPilot
                      Hobby Squawk Advanced Pilot

                      • Jun 2015
                      • 538
                      • Saint Clair Shores, Mi
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                      #5050
                      Originally posted by Twowingtj

                      Binghamton Aeros in Chenango Bridge, NY Four days Aug 10th - 13th

                      WBC, Yes, we should get some practice in. Don't need any Pilot Ryan P-47 action LOL. Not sure if the other Hogs will be able to fly. I see they are currently OOS :Scared:.
                      I will be at E-JETS International that weekend in Ohio. Then it's the big Air Show at Selfridge ANG Base the following weekend. Plenty of A-10's there and the Thunderbirds. Centennial of the base 100 years of military aviation.

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                      • Twowingtj
                        If It Flys, I'll Try It

                        • Dec 2016
                        • 1907
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                        #5051
                        Originally posted by Sonicman
                        Does anyone at MotionRC have an ETA on when this will be back in stock?
                        Welcome to Hobby Squawk Sonicman. I asked Cust Serv the same thing this morning for a club member that wants to order. The info I got back from Jet Man Mike was ETA 4 - 6 weeks.

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                        • Twowingtj
                          If It Flys, I'll Try It

                          • Dec 2016
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                          #5052
                          Originally posted by ColtPilot

                          I will be at E-JETS International that weekend in Ohio. Then it's the big Air Show at Selfridge ANG Base the following weekend. Plenty of A-10's there and the Thunderbirds. Centennial of the base 100 years of military aviation.
                          Good times either way I'm sure. Will the new full scale Centenial Scheme A-10 be ready for the Selfridge Air Show? Take lots of pics.

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                          • TiredIronGRB
                            Post-Apocalyptic Tactical Consultant

                            • Jan 2016
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                            • Church Hill, Tennessee
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                            #5053
                            Originally posted by downwindleg

                            Thanks T I. So did you have to rebend the springs to hook over the pegs on the gear or what ? Brad
                            Yes
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                            • ColtPilot
                              Hobby Squawk Advanced Pilot

                              • Jun 2015
                              • 538
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                              #5054
                              Originally posted by Twowingtj

                              Good times either way I'm sure. Will the new full scale Centenial Scheme A-10 be ready for the Selfridge Air Show? Take lots of pics.
                              Supposed to be. It's the air wing commanders jet that's getting the paint job. I built him a FMS A-10 with Model Sounds Inc installed. So it's the same tail number.

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                              • downwindleg
                                Hobby Squawk intermediate pilot

                                • Apr 2016
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                                • Friday Harbor, Washington
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                                #5055
                                Originally posted by Clearblue
                                A little detail work going down yesterday!
                                Great work Jim,what dimension are you using for the rivet detail. I was using 5mm flat on the end of a round toothpick. Brad

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                                • Sky Wolf
                                  Flying Ant

                                  • Sep 2013
                                  • 731
                                  • Irving, Texas
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                                  #5056
                                  Found a really cool site that carries some awesome shirts and flags. This one is for the A-10...of course. But check out all of their stuff!

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                                  • RickVB
                                    Hobby Squawk Student Pilot

                                    • May 2016
                                    • 106
                                    • Novi, MI
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                                    #5057
                                    Originally posted by xviper2
                                    Sorry, I must be a bit dense. I went and re-read your first post about this and your reply here and still can't visualize how you've got things hooked up that would fry the BEC. I also have the FL P-38, which should be a similar principle when it comes to BECs and external power sources.
                                    Are you saying that the "unpowered" BEC was being fed juice but "backwards"? You plugged in a flight battery (4s for a P-38) into the RX? That's a lot of volts pumped into a RX, no?
                                    No, not what I mean. The situation: electrical system done and completely hooked up WITHOUT a battery of any sort. Now, I wish to undertake the 45 minute radio programming chore, but without having powered motors to worry about. So I plug a RECEIVER battery (sorry about the "flight" typo in that last post) directly into the receiver; on my bench that's usually an old 5 cell NiMH pushing a little under 7v (I know, that much voltage also puts the rest of the system in a bird like this at risk since as *I* now also know, they are equipped with components expecting 5v and no more from a BEC). The idea being the receiver and all the servos are now powered, but not the ESCs. But as I said, this also provide 6v+ on the receiver pins that the BEC is plugged into. Poof, no more BEC.

                                    Edit: it further occurs to me that I am not sure of the effects of having signal lines to the ESCs driven while the ESCs are not (properly) powered, which is also the case in this situation. Tend to still think it was just the power, but I haven't really tried to analyze this beyond "don't do it".

                                    Further edit: I also left out that the ESCs in question had integral BECs, not a seperate BEC. I'm not sure (don't remember now) but the whole ESC might have been fried.

                                    Coming from the automotive industry where our components in general are required to withstand ground or up to 16v on any terminal in any combination, this is hard to get used to, but I guess it is the hobby market...

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                                    • RickVB
                                      Hobby Squawk Student Pilot

                                      • May 2016
                                      • 106
                                      • Novi, MI
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                                      #5058
                                      Originally posted by Twowingtj

                                      Good times either way I'm sure. Will the new full scale Centenial Scheme A-10 be ready for the Selfridge Air Show? Take lots of pics.
                                      Originally posted by ColtPilot

                                      Supposed to be. It's the air wing commanders jet that's getting the paint job. I built him a FMS A-10 with Model Sounds Inc installed. So it's the same tail number.
                                      Guys, something RC going on at Selfridge? I thought this was strictly a full-scale event. Any links to other info?

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                                      • Pogo
                                        Getting old but still immature

                                        • Jan 2017
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                                        • Waterford, Ontario, Canada
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                                        #5059
                                        Originally posted by downwindleg

                                        Great work Jim,what dimension are you using for the rivet detail. I was using 5mm flat on the end of a round toothpick. Brad
                                        Brad, remember this jet is 1/10 scale, so a 5mm dent (if I understand correctly?) = a 50mm fastener - pretty big!
                                        Tom

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                                        • T-CAT
                                          Senior Member

                                          • Jan 2016
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                                          #5060
                                          I believe the rivets seen on most of these jets are about a half inch if I remember correctly. That means just a tad over 1mm would be the correct scale for a rivet on this 1/10 scale A-10.

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