Official Freewing MiG-29 Fulcrum Twin 80mm Thread

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  • Radar-Guy
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    #3801
    Originally posted by mshagg
    How do you find those rivet wheels Jetman? I'm about to tackle the freewing A10 and was going to try that technique to dress it up some. I dont think I have the craftsmanship yet to tackle the glue technique, you've been at this a lot longer :)

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    • t33jetman
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      Originally posted by mshagg
      How do you find those rivet wheels Jetman? I'm about to tackle the freewing A10 and was going to try that technique to dress it up some. I dont think I have the craftsmanship yet to tackle the glue technique, you've been at this a lot longer :)
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      • mshagg
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        #3803
        Originally posted by Radar-Guy
        Cheers mate, I've already printed one out just wondering what people's experiences have been with using them :)

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        • steven gubala
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          #3804
          Yes I agree the glue one takes alot of skill to do, but like so much better, about how many hours did it take for the glued one to do?

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          • kallend
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            #3805
            Originally posted by steven gubala
            Yes I agree the glue one takes alot of skill to do, but like so much better, about how many hours did it take for the glued one to do?
            As far as I can see from photos there are remarkably few raised rivets on the MiG (or any other high performance aircraft). Mostly flush rivets and countersunk screws.

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            • Waconut
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              #3806
              With the Flite-Metal they supply a wheel for imprinting rivets. It is a fabric marking wheel. It works pretty good and I will try it on bare foam to see how it looks tomorrow. Here is a pic of the rivets in aluminum.
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              • RC30Flyer
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                #3807
                Hey guys, installed my upgraded servos from Motion. Is this signs of bad servos or is this normal to have this kind of play? I mean it seems like a lot of free play in the gearing. Also, I'm running reflex on both aileron and flap, is the wingtip washout mod necessary if I'm running the reflex? Thanks in advance!!!


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                • Radar-Guy
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                  #3808
                  Originally posted by kallend

                  As far as I can see from photos there are remarkably few raised rivets on the MiG (or any other high performance aircraft). Mostly flush rivets and countersunk screws.
                  True, there are a few words about rivets here:

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                  • mshagg
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                    #3809
                    Originally posted by RC30Flyer
                    Hey guys, installed my upgraded servos from Motion. Is this signs of bad servos or is this normal to have this kind of play? I mean it seems like a lot of free play in the gearing. Also, I'm running reflex on both aileron and flap, is the wingtip washout mod necessary if I'm running the reflex? Thanks in advance!!!


                    https://youtu.be/N3RsweoCKEw
                    Yeah that's pretty typical with the stock setup. If you improve the hardware - and I think it's a mod worth doing for the price of a couple of beers - the freeplay improves dramatically. 4-40 links, dubro hardware, heavy duty servo horns.

                    re: wingtip washout, none of these things are really necessary but doing so should improve the stall characteristics. With reflex dialled in to the ail and flap surfaces the wing tips are now likely to be the first part of the wing to lose lift - not ideal.

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                    • f4u ausie
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                      #3810
                      Dont have this plane but its on subject... what is wingtip washout.?...

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                      • kallend
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                        #3811
                        Originally posted by f4u ausie
                        Dont have this plane but its on subject... what is wingtip washout.?...

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                        • Waconut
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                          #3812
                          Here is a pic of the fabric marking wheel and a little test I did on an extra D/F cover I had for my F-4. It is workable but doesn’t look as good as it does on the Flite-Metal. Also a pic of the canopy hatch on my F-104 I am working on.
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                          • t33jetman
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                            #3813
                             
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                            • 8492ndIOWA
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                              #3814
                              When Dree Brees retires, then I'll retire,lol. Until then, I'm back in the game. I call this one, The"Eye of the Tiger"🐯
                              So I decided too finish my Mig29 by adding the tiger graphic too the tail which (I was against) extra decals and some weathering. Didn't think it would look right with the camo but
                              surprisingly it looks good. March Madness eat your heart out
                              yours truly,
                              Rob Thomas

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                              • Gringotuerto
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                                #3815
                                Originally posted by 8492ndIOWA
                                When Dree Brees retires, then I'll retire,lol. Until then, I'm back in the game.
                                Wow that is exceptionally well done! Be careful not to fly it into Devin White's hands, lol.

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                                • Evan D
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                                  #3816
                                  Dree Brees? You talking the guy that plays football?

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                                  • steven gubala
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                                    #3817
                                    Hey Waconut, use a ruler as a guide for the wheel to give a straight line

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                                    • Elbee
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                                      #3818
                                      Originally posted by 8492ndIOWA
                                      When Dree Brees retires, then I'll retire,lol. Until then, I'm back in the game. I call this one, The"Eye of the Tiger"🐯
                                      So I decided too finish my Mig29 by adding the tiger graphic too the tail which (I was against) extra decals and some weathering. Didn't think it would look right with the camo but
                                      surprisingly it looks good. March Madness eat your heart out
                                      yours truly,
                                      Rob Thomas
                                      8I, Wow! Lookin' good. Best, LB
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                                      • Waconut
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                                        #3819
                                        Originally posted by steven gubala
                                        Hey Waconut, use a ruler as a guide for the wheel to give a straight line
                                        Yeah I did on my F-104 just free handed it on the test to see how the rivets look on the foam.

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                                        • 4qr1hu9n7
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                                          #3820
                                          Originally posted by RC30Flyer
                                          Hey guys, installed my upgraded servos from Motion. Is this signs of bad servos or is this normal to have this kind of play? I mean it seems like a lot of free play in the gearing. Also, I'm running reflex on both aileron and flap, is the wingtip washout mod necessary if I'm running the reflex? Thanks in advance!!!


                                          https://youtu.be/N3RsweoCKEw
                                          Don't use the supplied linkage. Use a brand name servo with higher torque specifications as well.
                                          4QR1HU9N7

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