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  • Das GSM ist unglaublich langweilig. Wer sind diese namenlosen Piloten, die du erwähnst? Haben sie außer den Flugwettbewerben im Hinterhof mit 20 Teilnehmern noch etwas anderes zu bieten?

    Sie sind sicherlich nicht in der Falte der Elektromotoren, wenn Sie denken, dass ein Sternmotor mit einer Sternwicklung etwas anderes als gewöhnlich ist
    Wie oft müssen Sie es sehen und keine Antwort wissen, um zu entscheiden, den Mund zu halten?Sie verlieren gerne Stellvertreterkriege?

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    Danke,
    Hubert
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      So what the 5340 and 22x20 cf prop did was break the mount and nearly slide the stand off the table. So THATS not going to work. Ill run out to Lowes or Home Depot today for a more serious stand out in the shop. Today might be a good day to get the new lathe up too. I def want DRO for it. I may even think about retrofitting some Nema steppers for some autotomized operations. That would be nice to do spinners etc. Ive had it packed up for awhile now and 3dp has really taken a forfront in my design ideas. There's about 3,000 tied up in the Grizzly. I want a Themac tool post grinder and other various tooling. This is more than good enough to build IC engines and the fixtures on the level of James Allen who you have already seen and admired. James is the one told me that the Chinese iron was an excellent choice. Much better than buying and old ass Milford lathe or something of that nature. James the Maset ME and 50 plus year toolmaker assures me it can cut to his numbers and tolerances. James was asked to join Childress racing at one time.

      Very few people in the world could build a 2 stroke like him. If you were not Jan Thie, Henry Nelson, Picco, Dubb Jett or someone of that nature you would not have much you could discuss with him. He built everything down to .625 bore self metering carburetors.

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      Between the top dog Bambu Labs or Method X by MakerBot ill have an additional 2500-6000 dollars tied up. In professional quality home manufacturing equipment.
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        Empirical proof the 5340 and 22 x 20 CF was the strongest prop motor setup ever on my pathetic kitchen lab bench.

        But seriously, I can't wait to get a real log of the thing it makes alot of thrust .

        Hi Ralph ,

        As usual you are locked in 👀. with you and all your anonymous buddies help It certainly hit 30K views here later this week and the 20 pole still has no data.

        When will you tell scorpion fans you are 1Boho's number 1 fan??

        When you stack that on top of the daily winders news you got over 300,000 views in 2 threads. However it was claimed on the German social media that no one is aware of the work I'm doing with the motors, despite the fact that you do and incorrectly highlight in on your German forums there every other day.


        Thanks for your time and patience.
        Hubert
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        • Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	0 Size:	423.5 KB ID:	422155Narcissistic American... LOL I'm the one that gave the fool the winding diagrams he could never complete. 😁 I guess you all there on the GSM are mad about that.....LOL! No one knows me but you been watching me closely and half trying my ideas for over 4 years now.... and I'm still waiting for you to complete it.....
          FACTS

          You can stop feeding the forums with fallacy any time now.... The HK 5020 Hybrid was wound what, about 6 years ago? Does it look like it has enough copper?

          Get a life and do something besides type on a keyboard! What I've found when i was there was a forum of Pinocchio's that never have data with their "superior intellect editorials" Kunzke is def one! I won't detail all the help I've sent him. he goes on after this diatribe and mistakenly makes reference to half the answers i provided to him simultaneously right after posting this . 2 faced and fake like a cubic zirconia because I have the personal email where he says he didn't want to finish the wind because he didn't want Ralph Okon to see it. Speak on it remotely so I can post the email.

          I got ya "Narc American" in my back pocket! All you idiots do is lie to one another on the open forums and then stab each other in the back via private email.... thats why Im friends with not one of you there and cut you all off. You have those FAREWELL emails. And know what you can do with your forum...

          You should post some of them... and THAT will show the forums the reality of what I truly think about liars and 2 faced people.

          That's the real reason you are bitter. because I told you umpteen times how stupid you were to not understand a damn wiring diagram so simple and supposed to be an authority on the subject matter. Damn 1/2 A amateur just running their mouths about electronics that needs to stick to cox TEE DEES!

          I dont have anything against Thomas, or Holle I don't even know them. Bert Dekker has always been extra kind and in alot of way threw me the basis for the P650 winding work. Bert Dekker is a straight shooter. A very kind individual. If Thomas, Bert, or Holle wind your motor the quality will definitely be there. Im not a hater . those boys do excellent work.

          Aloys Zimmeraman Is also a truly knowledgeable that actually worked in the field like me. He sent me a box full of winding supplies from Germany for zero dollars.

          I wont forget to mention the German seniors kindness. Ive also asked how is he several times as I haven't seen him active on the forum. You don't get an answer because they care more about acting ignorant on a forum than real torch passers well being but wanna charge somebody with NPD. look at yourself. Even Dr Gerling wasn't above cooperation with me who is a nobody to him in motor design.



          Thanks
          Hubert
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            ~Dr Sariful Islam~
            I think Ralph must be crazy. Ive show them a 24N10P hybrid wye- delta semi distributed winding that's directly from a chief IEEE senior motor designer at ABB to me. DIRECT to my email! Do you understand my geographic location? And where ABB's corporate research center is in Raleigh NC? It makes slightly more torque than Dr Gerlings in Munich. I guess no one there gets this in not even close to bs. This is from the Department of Electrical Engineering and computer science at N.C. State University of North Carolina. It definitely works. I can drive to his location from my home in 20 min.
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            Its strictly for the forums educational purposes. Don't let a clown on RC forums just concerned with selling you his motor in the technical sections block you from the truth you can incorporate into your own model with out me. I'm just giving you the science. You can weave it into whatever brand you want. Sariful has wound and terminated it, if Ralph can't with the spaghetti noodles he wants to use that's for a certain Kv that's on him. What I don't think he understands is the winding lowers the working winding resistance of his wires significantly and also allow his rotor to work optimally so he doesn't need the spaghetti noodle winding.
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              Here is something interesting for Ralph and scorpion fans.. I've know it for years but he hasn't a clue. 😁
              Here are photos my friend Loring Miller's boat and proof the Scorpion 4035 does hold records here in fast electric boats. She turns an Octura 1657 on 8s lipo prepped by Brian Buass. and driven by him to several 2 lap records that still stand. He did it with the reliable Castle Hydra Ice 200. Like I always use on the bench. It's a Dave Frank Executone nitro scratch build that had the sponsons AOA adjusted for FE power. You see the 1/8th scale 2 lap time was 25.88 seconds the speed was 46.370 MPH You see the setup also took the S (8s lipo) and T sport (10 s lipo) Hydros. Its clearly like's Brians 1657 octura, but you don't know its that. If he actually cuts the diameter down the aspect ratio will climb higher than 1.6. I have his contacts I'll have to ask him. Its very easy to believe my Align or outrunners around 480 grams will do very well it this class boat. I have a unique winding that allows me to cool the winding directly with water or a cryogenic blast.

              Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	0 Size:	6.0 KB ID:	422237Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	0 Size:	7.9 KB ID:	422238​Please continue to enjoy your subscription here. You even got a cookie for the proxy wars you idiots......
              You don't know the Expert modelers or Drivers I know in all forms of of RC either....

              I been around RC a long time Bruder, and can hand a motor to some of the best. Including Brian Buass who I have the contacts to do my latest SAW props if I do not do them myself.
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              • Please enjoy what my friend has shared so I could show you something positive about a Scorpion outrunner here. You know It is interesting and what the forums are really for. Not brand sales!!! I still enjoy RC Models....... The German outrunner runs well on a six step CASTLE!!!!

                If I were a brand salesmen I do a much better job for both than you.... and have owned both the Hydra ICE inverters and a never used Scorpion LRK DD 4035 motor custom wound from kit by me for eons now.... The HK 4035 is just more scrap iron I have laying around here waiting to power something.



                Bi Bi,
                Hubert
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                    Einer der P650 für den Diabolo ist fertig und bereit für den Prüfstandtest. Ich verwende ein Lager als Abstandshalter und ein Ritzel, um die Wellen ohne Aufpreis zu kürzen. Nach dem Kürzen werde ich das Wellenende mit einer kleinen Fase oder einem Radius versehen. Ich werde kleine Abflachungen in die Wellen schneiden und die Stellschraube mit Loctite sichern.

                    Danke,
                    Hubert
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                      Dr Okon and his friends can search for the Pilots Empirical reports on Heli freak.
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                        Pyro P650-62 Black competition version.
                        Original Kv 620
                        New Kv 778 (P650 - 78) on the Castle Hydra Ice HV 200 v2 @ 10 degrees timing.
                        Io 1.6 amperes at 16.1 volts
                        Rm 15.38 milliohm
                        Maxon Eq 1.92 says Max Eta is 92.8% on 4s lipo The pilots target was 780 Kv a .3% deviation Wunderbread

                        TTYL
                        Hubert
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                        • `Boho1Boho1
                          Today, 12:41 PM​

                          I got him locked in boys..... Click image for larger version  Name:	Jester.gif Views:	3 Size:	401 Bytes ID:	422296Croco world is so boring isn't it Ralph? There they didnt get to see the 2o pole run but in here camped for the "gimmicks"

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                          • Hi Ralph,
                            I see you here camping....😃It is fact that the hybrid is a single tooth winding so you couldn't beat its possible fill anyway. You never shared with them better winding technique like the STSD Modisc put together. You know I know how you hate the Asiatic brother and his winds. 👿

                            I remember it well so i'll share it here again in case and advanced winder or one of your friends in Germany need to get more turns in..

                            Into a hybrid perhaps......





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                            • STSD winding by Modisc.

                              Single-Tooth-Single-Direction winding technique, here, refers to the winding technique that wind each tooth of the stator separately, following the same direction.


                              Each tooth is winded separatly, following the same direction
                              Each slot will have 2 lead end out, one in-end and one out-end, of different wires.

                              Taking 12N (12-tooth) stator as an example:
                              Advantages:
                              No crossing-over wires in the slots, making it possible to make the best use of the room in each slot
                              All the coils can be winded identical, and packed in the same way
                              Suitable for all types of connection, such as ABCABCABCABC (for 12N8P), dLRK parallel Y/D (for 12N14P), etc.
                              In the presence of any short, it is easy to find it and correct it by re-doing the winding on that single tooth

                              Disadvantages:
                              It can be massy during winding
                              Need to prepare all the 24 ends of the 12 wires for solering/connection
                              Need specially attention to make sure that you are connecting the 24 ends correctly.
                              It maybe difficult to pack the connection ends tightly in the limited room at the bottom of the stator, with proper insulation.

                              Supplementary Info:
                              How to make the best use of the STSD? An example of winding a 12-tooth stator with desired 14 turns in each slot:

                              Tooth_1 with 6 turns
                              Tooth_2 with 6 turns
                              Tooth_3 with 6 turns
                              Tooth_2 with the last turn (6+1=7*)
                              Tooth_4 with 6 turns
                              Tooth_3 with the last turn (6+1=7)
                              Tooth_5 with 6 turns
                              Tooth_4 with the last turn (6+1=7)
                              ......
                              Tooth_12 with 6 turns
                              Tooth_11 with the last turn (6+1=7)
                              Tooth_12 with the last turn (6+1=7)MOD
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                              • 1, ABCABCABCABC delta (for 12N8P or 12N16P)
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                                • 2, dLRK delta (for 12N10P or 12N14P)
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                                  • 3, dLRK half parallel delta (for 12N10P or 12N14P)
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                                    • 4, LRK delta (for 12N10P or 12N14P)
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                                      • 5, LRK half parallel delta (for 12N10P or 12N14P)
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                                        • Some of his results.....

                                          Castle Vertigo 5055
                                          26T, YY, 1.3mm
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