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  • The entire idea is bs because the motors lose sync because of the magnets not the iron. They have ironless and air core motors that run fine with the right inverter. Slot lees iron core too so no teeth are wrapped at all just like a LMT inrunner....🤣

    if its the iron in high pole counts why is he fingering with the halbach rotor?????

    you Dumm because he just wants to sell his outrunner. He has a world class inrunner right beside it that totally kills the wide tooth theory. It has none and has 3% more efficiency than the outrunner with wide teeth the Kw is .98

    No one will trade their lehner in runner in for it. Including the Jags team with the worlds fastest rc boat.

    As you can see skywalker is still perfecting the idea. of the 41.... apparently he isnt quite there yet revisiting his old stuff. He has to get permission too. Lehner wont put it on his shelf until he has reviewed it anyway.

    Some of his proposals have already been thrown out the door by Lehner but that fact doesn't post on the open forums. But i know i have the emails....from when he wanted to try 14 poles and this OLD array and other things like flat aluminum coils etc etc..

    These guys will waste 12 of your years reading. No one cares. If you are interested in these two engines then I guess the nonsense has value but i don't have any indication from the pilots I wind for that they give a rats ass about either of these two engines so we can move on to what's actually being wound here which is neither of these two.

    That's the reality of it all. Not a single scorpion or LMT has come thru here and probably never will. I play around a little with scorpions cores because the cheap little thing is expendable and easy to wind with thin teeth made for Ralph's spaghetti noodle high idle current windings.... but no one here flies the sht!'


    He has 1 or 2 idolators on rc groups and a couple on Heli freaks... other than that he's dead here. Its a German thing over there so I would worry about it....It seems to me that site has clearly chosen Scorpion as itz champion of faith.....

    In these sizes not having hammers wont add as much as it subtracts from torque production in leakage either. Thats going to work much better on the 70 series than the 41.

    He wont admit that, but inherently if it makes sooo much more torque than othere motors the efficiency is only 93% and certainly other motors do that so they cant be paying the same cost to arrive there if the efficiency is the same.

    Efficiency says it all in an electric motor. Its a value that tells you the motors ability to convert electrical energy into mechanical energy and in this case that's torque and rpm. You had more torque that Ralph but he turned the propeller the same speed for less consumption.

    Where was the win? The motors have the same exact max Eta. The 42 is lighter.

    who you mad at about it???

    Yes it has slightly more torque and draws significantly more power to do so.... because it isn't any more efficient than the proxy ops.....

    u2 R real clowns & he wants max torque at a max price... LEAKAGE at the slot opening. So find strong batteries for him segment your rotors pm and wind formed litZ wire.

    Sound like a plan for 93%?

    Is not the efficiency it brings all the point at the end of the day????

    Or do you just want style points????

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    • Of all the things you have accomplished in life have you ever managed an accomplished mistake??? If your engine was more efficient it would have made more torque for the same draw as the HK.

      That is why your efficiency is no betta bruder!
      Imma TTYL i just cannot compete with your genius....

      Hubert
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      • I mean but that's his nature. Hès greedy and self centered so of course he wants every bit of the magnetic field AT ANY COST and so he pays it with current draw and magnet mass to capture it and breaks even.
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        • Its just like a Bavarian . BMW's run like hell till they break down which is often enough.


          They wont run dependable like a Benz or Volvo. I tell you dat in its life!!! Half the hammer can sometimes help......
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          • Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	0 Size:	170.2 KB ID:	423287​Hmm I must be your teacher too because you never reported the D and Q inductances on your own machine. You were asked several times....


            You dont read here so how you know what his teacher is teaching him????

            At this point everyone certainly believes that....

            A total waste of forums time.....

            WIND SOMETHING NEW BESIDES A 12 year DEBATE ABOUT 93%


            Layta
            Hubert
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                    • Id rather let his words tell you about his leather glove dyno....

                      Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	0 Size:	274.8 KB ID:	423347​ Now he can stop 3/4 hp with his hand.....


                      Gimme a break.....

                      Dr Okon is going to get one of the modelers hurt if they follow these idiotic dyne meter plans.

                      Later....
                      Hubert
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                      • This is a real Prony brake and you need a solid drum the motor turns for the friction brake which is the leather strap.. He's nuts and dangerous as hell.

                        Thats my professional opinion from my Machinist background. 3/4 horse can destroy you. Ill show it to you in full a little later.
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                        • Hi,
                          I want you squawkers to read this again and pay special attention to the last sentence. I showed Ralph several real dynos back in 2020 and I'm going to show you what he said in response, but I first want you to read again what he just said yesterday in 2025. I want you to see why I say Pinocchio. It isnt fallacy I want you to see the contradictions for yourself and that no one can help him. But he tells the German forum he and his friends real dyno is up next.

                          Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	0 Size:	290.6 KB ID:	423401​"The real test then comes on a real, High-quality test bench with is partner"
                          ~Powercroco 2025~


                          now let me show you what he had to say about dyne meters when i suggest he get one in 2020 versus a damn welders glove...

                          Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	0 Size:	263.2 KB ID:	423402​also note the German Nationalist comment closely...... "Preferably on your side of the globe" so you see he has the audacity to say this to an American while selling on the American site, but a hypocrite is here on this forum on this side of the pond.🧐 See? What's up with that? Helifreaks isn't his side either but let him run his mouth like that....🙊 but what he says here additionally was that he has no use for dyne meters. Do you see it those are his words not fallacy from me? This was 2020. See the date at the top of the captured post. I'm being straight up. He running a number on ya'll boys because in 2025 he and his partner have the high quality dyno he test on either though its the same motors he said in 2020 he had no use for a dyno. "sold and gave away" is what he said.

                          Which one is the truth bruh?
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                            This is a real Prony brake setup for the man that says he has no use for a real dyno.. See the drum attached to the motor and the Scale on the friction lever arm. Too bad the Dr Told his friend it has to be an external rotor to test it in a Prony brake. He is incorrect clearly. This belongs to Jeff Bezos to test motors and train AR Techs to test motors in his fulfillment centers all over the world.....

                            Keep listening to Powercroco and his nonsense. Certainly Ralph and his "partner" have proven more things to themselves and made more money than Amazon Robotics with their propellors test methodology.



                            Thanks
                            Hubert
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                            • Es ist schon komisch, denn kein echter Ingenieur würde 12 Jahre lang online über Wicklungswiderstände bei empirischer Betriebstemperatur diskutieren, um eine genaue Effizienzmessung zu erreichen, bevor er einfach einen Thermistor mit wärmeleitendem Epoxidharz an die Wicklungen klebt. Ein Ingenieur hätte gesunden Menschenverstand und wüsste, dass er mehrere anschließen könnte. 1 an die Endwicklungen und Y-Bündel zumindest. Kein echter Ingenieur würde online sitzen, seine Freunde anlügen und sich technisch lächerlich machen, indem er über Dinge spricht, von denen er offensichtlich nichts versteht, oder diese Dinge einfach tun und überhaupt nicht spekulieren. Deshalb muss man Amateur-Clowns in Foren lieben, die Dinge tun und einen für dumm halten, wie zum Beispiel um 7:30 Uhr deutscher Zeit auf Foren zu antworten, die sie angeblich in Amerika nicht lesen.
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                              • Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	0 Size:	114.2 KB ID:	423407​Hi Dr Okon,

                                Just wanted you to see that for every conventional wye motor you wind a Clugh wound hybrid of the same motor is always cleaner with a higher winding factor. In this slot and pole combination chart you see here the first number represents the winding factor of your conventional wye in that combination. The next number that follows if the winding factor of the same topology wound in a hybrid. You see the winding factor is higher than the single layer but the wind is more harmonically cleaner than your conventionally wound dual layer wye motors.....

                                Click image for larger version  Name:	image.png Views:	0 Size:	289.8 KB ID:	423409​Do you see your 12N10P HK5 5030 Do you see your 14 pole pyro 900 . Do you see your 7455 24 slot 20 pole surfboard motor?? Do you see your 18 slot 20 pole wind? All losers in torque production power factor and efficiency . 😎 It doesn't matter what calculator or test bench you or your "partner" drum up. Your old winding style and lack of better materials Ie. UHU, steel bearings, yge 320, etc... loses.



                                Get some sleep. Those old winds and ball bearings are played out.


                                Enjoy the winding factor reality of the different winding systems for the speeders that I would utilize here versus there.

                                Thanks
                                Hubert
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                                • Please go educate your ignorant self.


                                  A Combined Wye-Delta Connection to Increase the Performance of Axial-Flux PM Machines With Concentrated Windings
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                                    Look at you in here at 4:38 am EST like a slick salamander versus a croc but I still see you...

                                    Do you see your weaker winding proposals across the board at any pole count?????👀
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                                    • U gotta be smarter like Lucas, you gotta go incognito mode then like a goof ball respond remotely anyway so it's obvious your still on here....


                                      Desynchronization would occur much later because the rotor is not stressed out like yours.

                                      Ha Ha.... u true genius.
                                      Hubert
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                                        I also showed Skywalker and Ralph in 2020 ABB's Halbach prototype here at North Carolina State Univ DEECS/ABB Corporate research center. I have to contact Dr Islam and see if he will send more intimate details and photos of this Halbach machine they tested on a dyne meter.
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                                          Something interesting there. A nice speedfire2 like mine. I see the German boys have APD not YGE in there....they don't listen to dude. He wont report the weight of his geared HK 3226 on the 4 to 1 Superchief to the forums for such a plane.. You all know this is my xnova 3226 on a maxon 3.8-1 I believe I'll have to check again. I did it and it sit on a shelf waiting fir the 18 channel Futaba. I got boat business first. Then I'll go there. To the plane and the TRON ADVANVE 7.0.

                                          I could gear a 3215 Tareq with the Maxon and have truly light dwarf power..


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