Alternative motor windings and drive schemes

[Clugh]

He sent the drop here with similar pityful instructions here with a dentist cut off wheel and as you can see he hasn't processed it himself or he wouldn't have sent it to me to do it.

Keep listening to the old and bitter, perpetrating fool. No one is flying the 4125 or 4140 in much. Thats why he hasn't secured a hobby contract as a hand winder with any online flight vendors like CK AERO Or Brenner Contra Drives.

He is just a jealous turkey. and want the hobby world to say wow and an armature that's 24 friggin years old from a city bus. hes never implemented into a COTS offering. If it is supposed to be relived in the 41series LMT it only generates and eta of 93% Which is quite normal in its class.

[Clugh]

Lucass,
Its a shame that you try to call someone stupid because they accept your motor has a max eta of 93%.And you can't You want the world to move over this video but must not realize this is a very current light flight program. This is hardly hard 3D for the consumption you are bragging about. You act like the 4125 is his Number 1.

LOL lets look at all the brands Albert flies after this light 3d video Christian.

I'm not impressed buy it. Because he is hardly pulling it hard to consume anything. Post the flight log and the truth comes out about the current draw of the light 3d moves.

Stupid is the person that doesn't ask the radial magnet to pole magnet ratio of your Halbach wunder machine before giving you a cookie.

[Clugh]

Hes flying xnova here
Hobbywing 150A Xnova 4020 1100kV AGF A62BHL low profile servos GDW995 tail servo Vbar EVO (166Hz swash / 500Hz tail) 25f buffer VTX 557 main blades RT Ultimate 93mm tail blades HRB 5200 lipo total weight with lipo: 3.360g GrimesRic

[Clugh]

He flies the same 4.5 LIGHT setup with the xnova 4030 LOL!

Do you see it wunderbread

"after giving up the Nimbus I took the motor and esc and put it in the Specter 700 NME. It's pretty light, weighing only 4500 grams rady to fly. very fun low rpm ripper Setup: YGE Aureus 105 Xnova 4030 470kV Savöx SB-2262MG low profile servos XPERT Kyle Dahl KD1T tail servo Vbar EVO (250Hz swash / 500Hz tail) 25f buffer MS Rapid 720 main blades MS Rapid 115 tail blades lipo SLS Quantum 12S 3500 30C total weight: 4,5kg "

[Clugh]

RT610 Ultimate Mikado Vbar Control VBar Neo Kontronik Kolibri 140 Scorpion HKIII 4025-1100 / 12 tooth KST BLS815 KST BLS805X

He is flying scorpion here.

DO YOU STILL WANT THAT COOKIE CHRISTIAN?

He flies everything. The Avant video is nothing but a small excerpt of all his flying and power system choices. So what? You call people stupid when they cut you off and will not associate with you, but I want you to see the Avant video means nothing and only shows how ignorant you are about what's out there and even to what Albert's doing in full. This is why you sit at the deadpool alone. Like I said when you post something relevant beside static photos of motor concepts that do not run I will take you more seriously. I've watched you closely for 12 years and its literally you that does nothing in rc YOURSELF but type on the forums, mostly hating on others coz no one pays attention to you and bye golly you think they should.....

You're mad about that but you are funny to me trolling two forums where you are gaining no traction at the same time. Its you that has to pull up what you DID in 85 and 96. Days long gone bruder.

Du bist über 70 Jahre alt und verhältst dich immer noch wie ein Kind.

Hubert

[Clugh]

What makes it so bad with you trying to compete with me is that you tell the entire forum that Albert Fruth is a friend of Jan Henseleit. So what? Tell Albert to load the highly efficient 32 pole cobalt machine direct drive in his AVANT and fly it with a hydrogen fuel cell that works in 2025 for a cookie for Chris.

Jan Henseleit flies and recommends Kontronics with his whirligigs and has zero to do with the topic of stator design. Neither does Albert Fruth.

You are so jealous .... it is sad.

Instead of nonsense try staying on your goofy topic by posting the q and d inductances and the rmp of your proposed Halbach. A video and data of the 12 slot 20 pole , and you actually running an rc model in the last two decades. Because you haven't and have not a video to prove it. You've been typing with nothing tangible in a running model for at least12 years straight. You hadn't don't a thing animate the entire time I've know you. You should let the forum grandstanding go. Youve been retired in active rc modeling nearly 20 years, so how long do you plan to pull legs on these forums?

Just stop it. Its embarrassing. In my book your are nothing but living in the past that you cannot let go....

Hubert

[Clugh]

Hi BH Pirahna,

How are they hand winding copies? Bert wound a 6 + 4 and my numbers are significantly better with the smeared 5 + 5 thats STILL better than you Ralph. Psychopathic is you 2 lying the forums for a profit. Eta is higher than both of you. 3+ yiu finding new calculators coz you dont want to accept it.

You both loved Holle's calculator just last month...

Funny how he just walked away from the conversation and your at 69% in reality bragging all over the forums.

Have you actually looked at the ETA's Thomas calculated for your machines. Under 80% while a 50 dollar motor is at 88.

[Clugh]

No matter how much the bottom falls out of u2 the winding contracts are done and you wont be winding much here in the USA for the pilots anymore. Helifreaks should have more great reviews very soon.

When they made a thread who can wind my motors

No one on helifreaks mention either of you.

[Clugh]

There is the same hater that called me stupid giving Andy my contact. You dont see the suggestion of these two for the work anywhere. I've taken the forum and pilots from back from Ralph without even being on it.

Bert Dekkers motors crushed u sir. Bert and I dont have any animosity or competition . I just take the pilots feedback and post it as is.

[Clugh]

He calls everyone stupid and more so what? He doesnt call anyone as stupid as much as he call you that and you havent wound a thing new either but hi idle current trash the fries the YGE's

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  Chxpress Sep 19, 2024, 02:24 PM
  Hi Hubert,
  I don't know yet whether I want to delete it. I'm thinking about no longer being involved with RC Network. The moderators there are very stupid people who can't moderate properly. It's not just about me, I also have contact with 8 other users at RCN who, like me, were treated very rudely. I'm currently being blocked because I didn't give my answer respectfully to another writer. But the moderator doesn't appreciate that the other person gave me a very disrespectful answer beforehand. Politically in Germany, the moderator is a Green. The party is currently involved in government. But it is so bad that almost no one in Germany wants to vote for it again. Except for a few very stupid ones. I have developed a lot of things that are very positive for a green future. Optical messages Fiber optic cables with Siemens/Corning Glass, electric motors, fuel cells and many other components that most people don't even know about. Doesn't matter. I submitted the answers from the thread that got me banned to my neighbors, he's a Dr. of communication sciences. He can judge very well whether I was disrespectful. He has now written a letter for RCN and to the presenter, who will now feel very stupid. I wasn't disrespectful at all, I wrote a funny answer that the others didn't understand, IQ was too small. I'll let you know if I want to delete it. Thank you for your understanding.

Please his enjoy his word about ya entire forum there....

[Clugh]

Ralph you should go there and add your expertise.....the place has fallen apart since the moderator did his thing there for you. They are struggling....

[Clugh]

Do you think i give a rats ass that he told you he sent me nothing. The man is a liar and so jealous you read his own words about it here.

CHX2 Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2016

Hi, ein bischen viel Unwahrheiten hier. A little bit to much not true. The open slot statorplate design comes from Magnet Motor GmbH with all the prefabricated coils. The motor from Dieter Melber was inspirated by me and no other. I am in contact with Dieter since the first days when i show the SPS outrunner in 2000 . Dieter and i are the first who have build a direkt 3 phase driven modellhelicopter. Dieters was designed with the stator from a 12 Volt car inrunner alternator and my i designed a high pole outrunner with 24 slot and 32 magnets a basic 3 phase motor with second harmonic. The reason not to run the sps , second coil design was that the first 3 phase esc from Aveox and Kontronik are not designed for such high frequenz system. This was back in 1996 when i show the helicopter to the Schneider from Ulm price competition. The open statorslot design is much older back 1992 when we designed the prefabricated coils to rise the copper filling factor. The summit was the coil made from silverplates with spezial electrophorese isulation coating with a fillfactor of 95% and less belong to the volts we run , at 1200 Volt the isulation has to be thicker and stronger at the plates edge. All the open slot plates are belong to the Magnet Motor plates. This are plates from smaler motor with 25 kw up to 35 kw and the turbo motor with 400 kw at 35000 rpm. Plates material are spezial silicon electric steel and cobalt iron for the turbo motor with only 0,07 mm thick cobalt iron from . Also the plate Hubert show is not from Mr. Thaler , it is from me. Mr. Thaler does plates for Hans Lehner no one of you have ever seen. The small outrunner was designed as a alternator for race cars , the first very sucsessfull use was in Georg Plasa BMW hill climbe racercar when he won the European Championship and many other user like Mclaren F1 , BMW F1 and other F1 and Porsche, This for short clearification. Mr. Okon has never noticed how to use such motorplates and high powerdens motors as he has no clue about motordesign. That he is allways following this tread by Hubert show his interest in Huberts coil design. That he say that it makes no sense is od and show how he is unable. Hey, let a Scorpion 4025 Motor that has a kv of 460 run at 35volt and 100 ampere = 3500 watt input power till it will reach 100 degree rotorbell temperature(need some minute) and Selead all the cooling holes , that is important to see the loss power and not how the cooling fan is working . In the same runtime a similar sized motor with the coils like Hubert wind his motor reach only 50 degree. This is a segnificant improvment of efficance for this coil arrangement. Hubert has done and it is cool. Happy Amps Christian

Neither of you could tell the truth if your life depended on it. Can you read?

You don't make me mad with the fallacy and name calling I just laugh coz i can fact check it every time... all you doing is showing the forums how much you lie and are dishonest with them.

[Clugh]

Anyone that doesnt agree with his dataless theory of his 41LMT is stupid but the max ETA is still only 93% all the names in the world wont change it... Ralph wont sell his 4225 to any relevant F3A pilots here. He can cry all day about that and taking food of his plate on Heli freaks. He is hot about that..

Bert did not recommend you.. guess he didn't really like you after all. Probably coz you used to hate on him too.

your are both bs pendulums . cant you see You go back n forth like little girls.

Strange people 4 real.

Bipolar disorder I guess.... but the motors are still running exactly the same as they were 3 points down...


I hope you read the part clearly where he said you and the entire German social media's IQ was TOO SMALL.


I dont care what Anakin Skywalker says. He lives on the dark side. You and he both are just mad the pilots u thought would kiss your behind are doing fine in the states without you. They never even needed him so....

[Clugh]

The nonsense is the pitiful reply for "what is the radial magnet to pole ratio?". Or to avoid why the last motor you showed does not have NMB in it. Or why the 20 pole doesnt have any video running or data. etc etc.

When u 2 run out of bs to post no one believes fallacy is your goto.

Most importantly why you Stalk me here... again???? and still talking about me in Germany since you dont read here.

U keep forgetting to cover that lie by talking about me...and replying remotely. U talking about Psycho and still think people believe you are not camped on this site everyday.

Du bist nicht einmal Manns genug, es mir hier direkt zu sagen. Mann, du bist ein Feigling.

and irrelevant to the pilots here BTW.

[Clugh]

Albert Fruth's page shows he clearly has a liking to Xnova in fact.



Hate on bruder....

[Clugh]

Here's what he says about his Xnova setup

May 2, 2024loving my new NME right now! it's so locked in and the RT Ultimates are matching great. very smooth and powerful heli. blades are standing still @ 1800rpm :-) Setup: YGE Aureus 135 Xnova 4525 530kV Savöx SB-2262MG low profile servos XPERT Kyle Dahl KD1T tail servo Vbar EVO (200Hz swash / 500Hz tail) RT 700 Ultimate main blades MS Rapid 115 tail blades Lipo 12S HRB 5000 "100C" total weight: 5100 grams

[Clugh]

He didnt say anything about particular about the 4125 setup but he is loving the xnova setup. You see his own words he put your 41 in his "OLD" heli based on viewed comments in the video. He doesn't say one word about your BREATHTAKING motor.

[Clugh]

"Hey Hugh,
having flown your engine for two weeks or more, I can better assess engine efficiency. The engine is up to 500 mah more efficient than the Bert Dekker engine. That's a significant difference that model pilots appreciate."

Brenner Sharp CEO and inventor of the Brenner Contra Drive.

So ask Power Croco again who I copy? Because the performance of our comparative engines Clugh and the Power Dekker is not the same. Can you see.....👀

How I copy someone and not one of them use thermally conductive epoxy and never have... Bert never wound a 5 + 5 and he didn't wind it the same way. I have his exact method sent to Brenner and did it differently. A 5+5 and 6+4 will not act exactly the same anyway.

The the man know zero about the winding program here in the USA. He's hating on the American winder that's exceeding him in performance. Bert used to kill him. Go read up on helifreaks.

He put those powercroco scorpions damn near outta business on the site. Bert is a really cool guy and very kind. He does not have any heavy association to Ralph. He's cordial to everyone unlike Okon and tha'ts probably why more Americans wen to Bert. Ralph is a Nationalist with race issues etc. He never wanted Christian to share anything with Americans. All he ever wanted was your money. He never intended on making you independent in motor winding even though that's the lie that was sold after taking the idea from Poland. It was all for you all to wind cd rom motors DIY for small planes. Of course cash changes greedy bastards and you get two clowns running the technical pages of every forum in the world with their same dumb argument year after year. The mods should kick them both into the vendor sections.

You can ask Brenner if I care more about the money or his plane staying in the air. Ask him how hard it was to give him an eta estimate versus tell him you fly it and tell me.

Go ask him. He knows in straight up and will not lie to service a motor. I never made him a single promise about being more efficient than Dek. All i told Brenner is that I could wind it and did not care for the winding as I think it is wrong for a six step drive. But it isn't at all what Bert wound for them other than it was 10 turns as well.

I would not make Brenner a single promise. To the point of damn near fighting. I told him I don't give estimates i wind theory he flies and give me the efficiency. Thats how it goes here so you are tot tally clueless how I run my service.

You on the other hand promise dreams never delivered through the electrical fires, toxic fumes and DNF's burning on the ground. How do you talk about what anyone does and your pilots catch on fire and lose big money regularly in full systems failures?

DZ burned through 20k in about five flights and the rest DNF. Has he finished his 5th plane yet???? he should be around 30 ,000 spent now....He only has two speeding tickets exceeding 600 Kmh and 4 destroyed planes.

[Clugh]

Send that private message Ralph I know you crying after all your fallacy i turned right back around into your face and don't want the truth out. About all the fires in Dresden.

Glad you know you are copying the hybrid after reporting you have no use for it because you cant determine the Kv but now you're copying....

Are you ever honest with your people?

Goodness! Team xerox talks about me copying somebody

[Clugh]

After the first flights

Brenner Sharp
To: me · Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:57 AM
Message Body
Hey Hugh,


I swapped out the stator in the motor I have been running and flew your rewound stator yesterday. It works very well. The performance is identical to that of Bert Dekker's motors. The efficiency is also very good.

I can't properly judge motor efficiency without flying the motor on separate days under different weather conditions because there was very little wind yesterday, and the amplitude and direction of the wind significantly affect power consumption. However, with very little wind, I recorded a flight with the lowest energy consumption I have ever seen with my setup, 2600mah for the P25 schedule. Typical power consumption for P25 is 3800mah. I will continue flying with this motor to collect more information about motor efficiency.

The motor also ran cool as well. With an ambient temperature of 28C, the motor was 65C on the outside of the rotor.

Brenner...

See the pilots speaks for me never said a word what efficiency would be....