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  • RRHandy
    Instructor Pilot

    • Mar 2016
    • 892
    • Lilburn GA
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    #1821
    + Three on full scale.
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    • Hoomi
      Cactus Dodger

      • Apr 2018
      • 863
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      #1822
      I can understand why the swastika isn't included on some models. When I mentioned to our daughter that I was considering painting a Fi-156 to match the one at our local Air Museum, in Mussolini's military scheme, she balked at the idea of using the Italian Fascist symbol, even for scale accuracy on a model. Too many people these days don't seem to be able to separate the use of the symbol as part of historical modeling, from endorsing the philosophies embraced by said governments.

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      • AkumaZeto
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        • May 2016
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        #1823
        90mm super scale super sabre f100
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        • Valkpilot
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          • Oct 2017
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          #1824
          Originally posted by Hoomi
          I can understand why the swastika isn't included on some models. When I mentioned to our daughter that I was considering painting a Fi-156 to match the one at our local Air Museum, in Mussolini's military scheme, she balked at the idea of using the Italian Fascist symbol, even for scale accuracy on a model. Too many people these days don't seem to be able to separate the use of the symbol as part of historical modeling, from endorsing the philosophies embraced by said governments.
          I think in some countries, especially Germany, the use of the swastika outside of religious buildings is illegal.

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          • RRHandy
            Instructor Pilot

            • Mar 2016
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            #1825
            Originally posted by Hoomi
            I can understand why the swastika isn't included on some models. When I mentioned to our daughter that I was considering painting a Fi-156 to match the one at our local Air Museum, in Mussolini's military scheme, she balked at the idea of using the Italian Fascist symbol, even for scale accuracy on a model. Too many people these days don't seem to be able to separate the use of the symbol as part of historical modeling, from endorsing the philosophies embraced by said governments.
            Brain wash the children, you control the population.
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            • f4u ausie
              Senior Member

              • Dec 2019
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              #1826
              w all must remember , or learn..... so it does not happen again , cant wrap ourselvs in cotton wool.. if it was perfect world we would not need police ... oh but we do...

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              • AkumaZeto
                Achtung Stormtrooper

                • May 2016
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                #1827
                Originally posted by RRHandy

                Brain wash the children, you control the population.
                So what 45 is doing?
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                • Elbee
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                  Presume POTUS. If affirm, let's try to keep politics to a bare minimum and/or explain to all your thoughts. Perhaps use a PM. Just sayin'. Respectfully, LB
              • f4u ausie
                Senior Member

                • Dec 2019
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                #1828
                another fighter 4 me... the enemy ,, not many large zeros ... 1600 zero 4 me .. i like the beige with black nose.. and that distinctive meatball

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                • Gilatrout
                  RC Pilot Addict

                  • Dec 2016
                  • 806
                  • Albuquerque NM
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                  #1829
                  Go crazy. Seriously, if anything the airliner should teach is that we want something NEW. Be cool, crazy, give us a B-47 or something else off the wall cool

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                  • RRHandy
                    Instructor Pilot

                    • Mar 2016
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                    #1830
                    Originally posted by AkumaZeto

                    So what 45 is doing?
                    ? 45
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                    • axerhand1976
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                      • Mar 2014
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                      #1831
                      he is trying to say our elected pres. is not who he wanted.

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                      • StarFox
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                        • Dec 2019
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                        #1832
                        Hey you guys if you all what something cool how about this YF-35 Black Widow ll it's an ATF BUT it lost the government contract to the F-22 raptor and Lockheed Martin because of production cost Click image for larger version

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                        • F106DeltaDart
                          Scale Warbird and Chopper Pilot

                          • Feb 2015
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                          • Arlington, TX
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                          #1833
                          Hey Starfox, LX has a YF-23 and the airframe kit is on sale right now for a decent price. If you retrofitted it with Freewing EDFs/servos, it would probably do pretty well: https://www.bananahobby.com/7-ch-bli...f-jet-kit.html

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                          • xviper
                            Hobby Squawk Regular

                            • Jan 2014
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                            #1834
                            Originally posted by F106DeltaDart
                            Hey Starfox, LX has a YF-23 and the airframe kit is on sale right now for a decent price. If you retrofitted it with Freewing EDFs/servos, it would probably do pretty well: https://www.bananahobby.com/7-ch-bli...f-jet-kit.html
                            I had this same model (kit) from Find-Hobby. I put in the fan units and ESCs from Freewing (counter-rotating). Unfortunately, the plane was very unstable. After putting in a gyro, it was still so unstable that it was a real butt clencher to fly. I had 1/2 dozen flights on it and after the last landing, which broke the nose retract and snapped a V-tail off, I stripped it down and gave it away to a friend who fixed it for a static model. It looked really cool on the ground and even in the air when it wasn't darting all over the place, but something about the design when scaled down to a model, made it nearly impossible and not very enjoyable to fly. Maybe Freewing could design one that can fly better.

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                            • F106DeltaDart
                              Scale Warbird and Chopper Pilot

                              • Feb 2015
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                              • Arlington, TX
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                              #1835
                              Originally posted by xviper
                              I had this same model (kit) from Find-Hobby. I put in the fan units and ESCs from Freewing (counter-rotating). Unfortunately, the plane was very unstable. After putting in a gyro, it was still so unstable that it was a real butt clencher to fly. I had 1/2 dozen flights on it and after the last landing, which broke the nose retract and snapped a V-tail off, I stripped it down and gave it away to a friend who fixed it for a static model. It looked really cool on the ground and even in the air when it wasn't darting all over the place, but something about the design when scaled down to a model, made it nearly impossible and not very enjoyable to fly. Maybe Freewing could design one that can fly better.
                              Good to know! Will avoid this one.

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                              • StarFox
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                                • Dec 2019
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                                #1836
                                Yo delta I've checked that out and it's really small compared to the beautiful raptor motion RC has put out plus I'm a newbie to the hobby so that might be more then I can chew right now lol

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                                • Valkpilot
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                                  • Oct 2017
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                                  #1837
                                  Originally posted by xviper
                                  I had this same model (kit) from Find-Hobby. I put in the fan units and ESCs from Freewing (counter-rotating). Unfortunately, the plane was very unstable. After putting in a gyro, it was still so unstable that it was a real butt clencher to fly. I had 1/2 dozen flights on it and after the last landing, which broke the nose retract and snapped a V-tail off, I stripped it down and gave it away to a friend who fixed it for a static model. It looked really cool on the ground and even in the air when it wasn't darting all over the place, but something about the design when scaled down to a model, made it nearly impossible and not very enjoyable to fly. Maybe Freewing could design one that can fly better.
                                  When I first saw it, it went to #2 on my "bucket list", after the Valk, of course. But when I looked at the video review, it seemed like they were trying to fit 10 lbs of manure into a 5 lb bag. And it looked like the landing gear was as flimsy as the Valk's was, even though it was two different companies. And in Realflight, it was like trying to fly a leaf. I bet the LX Blackbird is the same way. And from many of the reviews I've read of LX products, there's not much room for batteries and RXs.

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                                  • xviper
                                    Hobby Squawk Regular

                                    • Jan 2014
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                                    #1838
                                    Originally posted by Valkpilot

                                    When I first saw it, it went to #2 on my "bucket list", after the Valk, of course. But when I looked at the video review, it seemed like they were trying to fit 10 lbs of manure into a 5 lb bag. And it looked like the landing gear was as flimsy as the Valk's was, even though it was two different companies. And in Realflight, it was like trying to fly a leaf. I bet the LX Blackbird is the same way. And from many of the reviews I've read of LX products, there's not much room for batteries and RXs.
                                    In the case of my LX YF-23, make that 15 lbs of crap. From the recommendations of someone on this forum, I immediately removed the stock retracts and put in some Freewing units. I also had the LX A-10 and the SR-71. All of them required a great deal of work and modifications and they still did not fly right. The A-10 was "OK" but it wasn't without much effort. The SR-71 was a handful in the air, too but at least I managed to land it perfectly - ONCE. Not wanting to risk another flight, I gave it away. I'll never buy another LX plane although, I have a feeling that LX makes many of the BlitzRCWorks models for Banana Hobby. Some are good, while many are not. LX caters to the low end market where hobbyists are attracted to the low price and really "neat" looking models. You gotta give them top marks for web appeal.

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                                    • Aros
                                      Lead Adminstrator / Warbirdaholic

                                      • May 2013
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                                      • Astoria, OR
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                                      #1839
                                      Originally posted by xviper
                                      I have a feeling that LX makes many of the BlitzRCWorks models for Banana Hobby. Some are good, while many are not. LX caters to the low end market where hobbyists are attracted to the low price and really "neat" looking models. You gotta give them top marks for web appeal.
                                      Correct, BlitzRCWorks is LX, or at least was for many years. Your assessment is pretty spot on. LX has made their money suckering folks like me starting out in the hobby who love scale, cool jets and warbirds without realizing just how god-awful their electronics and components are. My first EDF ever was the LX F-117. "Great for beginners! Super stable!!" BH and LX saw me and folks like me coming a mile away and laughed all the way to the bank. But this was before the days of Motion RC and Freewing. BH was the "go to" for the "ooooh and aaaaahhh" cool factor in RC aircraft. They do make for nice static display models at least.

                                      For the record, the F-117 lasted all of 10 seconds trying to take off before smashing into a chain link fence. But boy did she look pretty for those 10 seconds!


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                                      • F106DeltaDart
                                        Scale Warbird and Chopper Pilot

                                        • Feb 2015
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                                        • Arlington, TX
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                                        #1840
                                        LX is always extra weird to me because it’s very hard to judge how well their individual airframes will fly. It’s a strange mix of what works versus what needs a complete redo. Their Wildcat is great pretty much out of the box. Some, like their B-25, need only minor upgrades to be great models. The majority, like their F-117, are great flyers if you totally re-engineer them. I put electric retracts, added a spar, and an FMS EDF in mine and it’s a real sweet flyer! Then there is the last category, the un-attainables. I’ve owned their F-4, F-35, and yes, I actually did own the YF-23. I just thought it was my crappy piloting skills that were the problem! I guess it wasn’t just me. All these machines plus the PAK-50, B-2 and a few others have huge 70+ page threads on RCG with few successful flights despite extensive mods and improvements. It’s just a shame they haven’t strived to improve their standards over the years like every other manufacturer. They do make some beautiful models.

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