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Originally posted by radfordc View PostReconfigured the controls so that the tailerons control pitch and roll and the wing surfaces are flaps only. The flaps have full up, take off position, and full down. The airbrake is also actuated when the flaps go full down. I mixed in a bit of up elevator with the full flap position.
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Originally posted by Captain Moron View PostWas going to buy the Freewing Mig 29 but in my view that has a serious problem with the elevator servo. Just wonder how this compares with the Freewing Mig 29 and does this have any issues
I have not herd anything bad about this one. Thinking I might be better off with Eflite SU 30 then risking buying the Freewing Mig 29
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Originally posted by xviper View Post
You're repeating yourself. There will be things on the SU30 that you won't like either and have you demanding your money back. It's big, really heavy, flies on one battery and not for very long. It flies very sluggish and can land heavy, snapping gear and bending nose struts. The airbrake has been known to be problematic on some models (more than you can shake a stick at). The AS3X/SAFE can be temperamental to initialize. I think you live in a world full of conundrums, dilemmas and buyer's remorse.
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Originally posted by Wild Man View Post
There are pro's and con's for every one of these, but in the hands of a person, that does the research and has the ability to solve these little problems. All these EDF's can be sorted out and made to fly great I for one have the E-Flite Su-30 and have had no problems at all with it. As for as snapping main gear and bending nose gear is a Bad landing problem I have watched many video's of this one and pay great attention on how people land many get it to slow and stall the Su-30 to high and ruin the gear then complain how week the gear is landing these planes is where most all the damage is done due to bad piloting skills. I will say that some have had the gear come out to due to not enough glue on the mounting plates on the retracts but only on a few planes You are right the SU-30 is a heavy plane and could use more power and the roll rate is rather sluggish. So the SU-30 has to be flown with all this in mind. Due to the higher wing loading the stall speed is higher then most other EDF twins that are lighter and have more power so all this has to be considered when flying. I have programed in tailerons and by doing so the roll rate can be adjusted as slow or as fast as you want it. lets get back to the landing gear if flown by some one with good piloting skills the SU-30 can be landed on the mains first. let me say that again FLAIRED & TOUCHDOWN THE MAINS FIRST with out having any problems, then let it settle in on the nose wheel. When you do what I call a lawn Dart landing that is where the nose gear gets bent, or if touched down slightly on the nose gear which then inadvertently starts the plane to porpoise down the run way wish only gets worse with every bounce I have many flights on my SU-30 and have not had any major problems with it. in conclusion. Keep your speed up on landings, Flair it correctly if you bounce it get on the power, abort the landing and go around. The Su-30 could use more power, it is heavy, and with just ailerons the roll rate is slow but can be changed by adding in tailerons, landings can be made slower by adding Flaperons. some are even using spoilerons mixed in with up elevator. in fact I use spoilerons on my free wing F-35 works great With the advance computer transmitter's programming capabilities are endless that's why we test fly these planes.
My post and comments were directed solely to the Captain, knowing his history and his requirements. It was NOT a generalization of the SU30.
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WOW I most have struck a nerve here. You know all I have said is a generalization and my opinion on what I have seen with this and many other EDF's and just RC planes. I am talking about a lot of people that buy these planes, and have no idea what they are doing with them just because they look great and they hope they can Fly them with out crashing. There are many that do just that. Clint Eastwood remarked a man has got to know his limitations No body makes perfect landing every time you know that, but there are a lot that never practice landings and take offs because they are nerves about crashing, so they just hope for the best. being proficient at take offs and landings has to be practices many many times to be come proficient at doing so There are days I go out, and that is all I will do with my planes, touch and goes all day long to stay proficient with each and every plane I have. You read to much into my post Sir. I did not mean to up set you or any one else have a nice day
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Got my SU-30 out with 3 other EDF's and put 5 flights on it with a 5000mah battery. Still flies like a pig, but I'm learning to deal with it (only took about 60 flights and trying 5 different batteries). Cutting back on weight to a 5000 improved it's performance substantially, but still only get 3:20 out of it, which ain't bad since the 6000's only gave me the same, but had to use more throttle and at least now it climbs decently.
Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
Hangar: FL/FW: Mig 29 "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet, F16 Wild Weasel, F4 Phantom & Blue Angel, 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, Olive B-24, Stinger 90, Red Avanti. Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 60" Extra 300 V2, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, MXS Green, & Demonstrator. FMS-1700mm P-51, Red Bull Corsair. E-Flite-70mm twin SU-30, Beast Bi-Plane 60", P2 Bi-Plane, P-51.
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I have a couple other 70mm Fan units I bought that should fit in the SU-30 They have a little more power and should go right in the SU-30 picked up the pair for 10 dollars in perfect shape. Time to do a repower and see what I get. Love flying the SU-30 but have to stay on the power all the time which equates to the short flight time I have never flown it off grass, or any of my EDF's just paved run ways. Some days all I do with it is touch and go That's why I have to order new Skins.
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Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman View PostStill flies like a pig, but I'm learning to deal with it (only took about 60 flights and trying 5 different batteries).
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Originally posted by xviper View PostPigs do fly then. I've always flown mine on 5000's and like you, I have gotten used to it and enjoy it a lot - not my fave but still has "presence" when I do fly it.Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
Hangar: FL/FW: Mig 29 "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet, F16 Wild Weasel, F4 Phantom & Blue Angel, 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, Olive B-24, Stinger 90, Red Avanti. Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 60" Extra 300 V2, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, MXS Green, & Demonstrator. FMS-1700mm P-51, Red Bull Corsair. E-Flite-70mm twin SU-30, Beast Bi-Plane 60", P2 Bi-Plane, P-51.
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Since my last post, I’ve discovered that the other two guys with this plane just sold theirs. They didn’t say why. I’ll likely keep mine till I either smash it to pieces or wear it out or I crap out before it does. I’ll repair it if it’s not too expensive to do so but I won’t mod it for appearance or power.
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Originally posted by xviper View PostSince my last post, I’ve discovered that the other two guys with this plane just sold theirs. They didn’t say why. I’ll likely keep mine till I either smash it to pieces or wear it out or I crap out before it does. I’ll repair it if it’s not too expensive to do so but I won’t mod it for appearance or power.
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