Has anyone looked at the control rods on the elevator side? Where they still attached or where they off, don't like those chincy white clips that are supposed to keep the rod in the servo arm. Just a thought.
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I don't think it is either. If it were aerodynamic it would likely have happened to yours by now.Originally posted by GliderGuy View PostComment
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In how many of the known and documented crashes has there been an incident where either end of the rod was found detached? The elevator side is a ball link. The servo side has the white retainer clip. One can always put a piece of fuel tubing over the white clip for added insurance, however, I don't recall seeing any of the crashes as having that as a failure point.Originally posted by Jet jocky View PostComment
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Sorry I meant the servo side. My bad.Comment
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Does anyone know where you can get those chokes?Comment
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Thanks guys!!!Comment
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Unfortunately I had a crash yesterday with my Mig 29 - reported it on RCG. I am sharing a video of the crash site aftermath. Very disappointing.
I lost elevator control as I was attempting a shallow dive in preparation for a low altitude speed pass. Instead of correcting the 20 to 30 deg from nose down to level the jet went straight into the runway. As you can see in the silent video (I was very upset) the model hit the ground at speed and then took off and rolled and cart wheeled and finally stopped by the fence. The RX was still connected and the batteries intact - which was remarkable to see in the first place. This crash is under review by MRC and others on RCG are proactively trying to see why so many Freewing Mig 29 twin 80mm EDFs are crashing in the same exact way.
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Sorry for the loss Captain / Can you provide all the details of your set-up?
CG
Servo upgrades
Push rod upgrades
RF filter chokes installed, if so....where
Radio details and installation details
satellites / same orientation plane or different planes
Flaps down/up
control box bypassed
observer comments
anything else....
Lots of folks trying to sort this out here.
Thanks,
GGComment
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Dang, sorry for your loss. I am curious if you were using tailerons or not?Originally posted by Captain MoMo View PostUnfortunately I had a crash yesterday with my Mig 29 - reported it on RCG. I am sharing a video of the crash site aftermath. Very disappointing.
I lost elevator control as I was attempting a shallow dive in preparation for a low altitude speed pass. Instead of correcting the 20 to 30 deg from nose down to level the jet went straight into the runway. As you can see in the silent video (I was very upset) the model hit the ground at speed and then took off and rolled and cart wheeled and finally stopped by the fence. The RX was still connected and the batteries intact - which was remarkable to see in the first place. This crash is under review by MRC and others on RCG are proactively trying to see why so many Freewing Mig 29 twin 80mm EDFs are crashing in the same exact way.
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Does anyone know where I can get an 8s balance lead protector? I want to put them on the wing wiring plug to make it easier to plug/unplug.Comment
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Hello!
This is the "Official Freewing MiG-29" thread, right? Isn't it high time then that Freewing & MotionRC actually say something about the current situation? For example,- Does MotionRC have the opinion that the MiG is safe to fly, if the replacement elevator servos are built-in?
- Is MotionRC investigating the crash reports?
- Does MotionRC have the opinion that all the reported crashes so far are pilot errors?
- Is there any sort of advice or reassurement that MotionRC wants to give MiG-owners regarding their aircraft and its operation?
Henrik
FYI: In Germany, flying a model above 5kg already requires adherence to stricter regulations. Flying it knowing that it may have a structural weakness or built-in design flaw that may lead to uncontrolled crashes is a legal risk. There are all kinds of nasty liability issues around the corner.Comment
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Sorry! Which servos did you have on the elevators, and which hole on the servo arm? Also did you use the stock elevator control rods, or some thicker (e.g. 4-40) rod? Any detail you can provide on your setup will add to the data (*).Originally posted by Captain MoMo View Post
(*) Well, I once heard a wise man say "the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'". LOL, that is very true, but still it's all we have.Comment
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It's an official discussion thread but not an official support channel.Originally posted by HK111 View Post
I've not seen anything other than transparency in the way they go about their business; if they have something to say publicly, I'm sure they will say it. In the meantime you're probably best reaching out to them directly.Comment
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People have posted their particulars in the crash thread poll over on RCG. Interesting data.Comment
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There would certainly be civil liability in the USA (we have more lawyers than anyone else), and if the issue were known about beforehand, possible criminal negligence in the case that an out of control heavy object going 100mph or more hit an individual or vehicle.Originally posted by HK111 View Post
And by definition, "out of control" means you have no control over where it crashes or what it hits.Comment
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Thanks - I have joined a number of others who are losing Mig 29s apparently. No, not using tailerons. Standard setup with 23g servos that were sent. I have details on the RCG thread and can provide them here as well. Only changes I made were 1) added a 20A castle Pro BEC 2) added two capacitors, each 3300 uF - one at the RX and one at the BB 3) used a 12 Channel Spektrum RX with 3 x sats 4) added 75mm JP ebrakes - powered direct from battery and 5) coated her with one coat of epoxy - which I do on all my models without a significant weight gain.Originally posted by leithalweapon View PostComment
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I never thought of this angle - so no wonder no one is responding to this..... wow.Originally posted by kallend View PostComment
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Ah dangit. Now you've done it.
The FAA will see this and use it as an excuse to regulate us even more, and all the manufacturers will have to go through quality testing with friggen nasa or whatever in the name of "safety" and the "greater good", making a little 100$ foamy cost 1k.
Stop flying them before you crash into a puppy and it becomes a national story LMAO
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