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  • xviper
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    • Jan 2014
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    #1101
    So, if you ordered batteries other than the current Admirals, you could still be good to go with 3600's so long as you check the dimensions carefully. I guess I'll have to look after my old Admiral 3600's.

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    • Budcop
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      • Aug 2017
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      #1102
      Thanks for the reply's, package will be here Monday! Through reading the posts on this forum I have decided to put the Minwax coating on this model, looking forward to adding foam to the work shop ! I feel better now :-)

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      • Budcop
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        • Aug 2017
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        #1103
        when applying the Spar Urethane to the model, is it done before decal application or after covering the decals as well ??

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        • TomPatton
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          • Jan 2017
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          #1104
          I have done it both ways... I prefer putting one good coat on, then applying decals followed up by 2 more lite coats...

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          • Grossman56
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            • Jun 2014
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            #1105
            Originally posted by Budcop
            when applying the Spar Urethane to the model, is it done before decal application or after covering the decals as well ??
            I've found it best to paint over the decals rather than laying them on top of the Varathane. They tend to anchor to whatever surface is on top and tend to peel away when on top of Varathane. so I put them onto the bare or painted surface, then use Varathane or Minwax to seal them on, I've never had a problem with them peeling off. The one plane I did put the varathane on first, my Pitts always needs a little touch up with some glue to reanchor the decals.

            Grossman56
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            • Budcop
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              • Aug 2017
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              #1106
              Thanks for the advice, I'm starting on it in the morning...

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              • Grossman56
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                • Jun 2014
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                #1107
                With La Patrona, I hand painted the silver gray with 4 coats, sprayed 6 coats of pearl laid the decals on them clear coated 6 layers
                Team Gross!

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                • 55gmcx2
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                  • Apr 2015
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                  #1108
                  I finished assembling my Tigercat yesterday and I'm having issues with the outer flaps and ailerons binding/rubbing with each other. With no flaps deployed, the ailerons and flaps rub slightly on the trailing edge. When the flaps are deployed, the rubbing/binding become much worse. I thought about shaving some foam off either the flaps or the ailerons, but I wanted to check to see if anyone else is experiencing this issue and what they did about it.

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                  • themudduck
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                    • Apr 2017
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                    #1109
                    Originally posted by 55gmcx2
                    I finished assembling my Tigercat yesterday and I'm having issues with the outer flaps and ailerons binding/rubbing with each other. With no flaps deployed, the ailerons and flaps rub slightly on the trailing edge. When the flaps are deployed, the rubbing/binding become much worse. I thought about shaving some foam off either the flaps or the ailerons, but I wanted to check to see if anyone else is experiencing this issue and what they did about it.
                    Do you mean the flaps are rubbing on the TE of the wing, or are the flaps rubbing against the aileron?
                    I didn't have this problem with mine.

                    But if a flap is rubbing against the edge of the aileron, shaving off a tiny sliver using a sharp razor blade to provide a small gap certainly won't affect anything (except to remove the rubbing). Of course it will expose a little white foam, but you can paint that.
                    Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.

                    Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com

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                    • 55gmcx2
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                      #1110
                      Originally posted by themudduck

                      Do you mean the flaps are rubbing on the TE of the wing, or are the flaps rubbing against the aileron?
                      I didn't have this problem with mine.

                      But if a flap is rubbing against the edge of the aileron, shaving off a tiny sliver using a sharp razor blade to provide a small gap certainly won't affect anything (except to remove the rubbing). Of course it will expose a little white foam, but you can paint that.
                      The flaps are rubbing against the ailerons. I used a fine file and filed a wider gap between the ailerons and the flaps. All is good now.

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                      • Phatbob
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                        • Apr 2013
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                        #1111
                        Finally flew my Tiger today after purchasing it last November. Two great flights with the non-stock battery setup. I'm using two G-Force 4000 30c 4s batteries with the CG @65mm gear down. Click image for larger version

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                        • Dewey H Lee
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                          • Apr 2015
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                          #1112
                          Pbatbob congrates on your maidein. I have not puchased this plane yet and was just wondering about your overall prespective of it.
                          Dewey l

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                          • Phatbob
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                            #1113
                            Originally posted by Dewey H Lee
                            Pbatbob congrates on your maidein. I have not puchased this plane yet and was just wondering about your overall prespective of it.
                            This being my second twin I have to say it flies beautifully. It beats my P-38 hands down for flying ease. I'll have more input as I obtain more flying time with her but I was very impressed. It took off great and only needed very slight trimming. I haven't used the flaps yet as today I had a 12mph head wind and they weren't required. She's not a fast plane but she does flies scale, which I prefer. My biggest concern was the cg discussions and the drastic change of cg between gear up/gear down. I've done a lot of cosmetic mods to mine, but nothing that would change it's flying characteristics from the stock version. I was so happy when I came home I ordered another set of batteries and a set of props (just in case). If you can fly a war bird, this is a piece cake. I'd almost say if a trainer bores you, you're ready for this.

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                            • benjack71
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                              #1114
                              I did the maiden yesterday. I will post a video of it soon. This is my impressions of it. Ground handling is great on our grass field. Tracks very well. Looks good. The stock power system is adequate at best. Not sure if anyone has done anything different but it did not have a enough pop to pull over the top in a loop. I was using brand new Admiral Pro 3600 4s batteries. So, the second flight was a little better but I found myself at full to 3/4 throttle the entire time. Attempted a half cuban 8 and it did not have enough under the hood to do it. Looked at the power upgrade system. Can you fly the 3 blades on the upgraded motors? I do not want to take away from the scale appearance with the two blade props.

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                              • themudduck
                                -TMD- Foaming at the Mouth!

                                • Apr 2017
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                                #1115
                                Originally posted by benjack71
                                I did the maiden yesterday. I will post a video of it soon. This is my impressions of it. Ground handling is great on our grass field. Tracks very well. Looks good. The stock power system is adequate at best. Not sure if anyone has done anything different but it did not have a enough pop to pull over the top in a loop. I was using brand new Admiral Pro 3600 4s batteries. So, the second flight was a little better but I found myself at full to 3/4 throttle the entire time. Attempted a half cuban 8 and it did not have enough under the hood to do it. Looked at the power upgrade system. Can you fly the 3 blades on the upgraded motors? I do not want to take away from the scale appearance with the two blade props.
                                Congratulations on your maiden flight!
                                You may find that the batteries will perform a little better after a few flights. Mine is all stock and I haven't had any problem doing aerobatics. I find that I have to reduce power going downhill, the model accelerates when its going down like no one's business. (My understanding is that the full-size Tigercats were the same.)

                                Something to mention, maybe you're already aware: the roll rate is somewhat anemic even with a lot of aileron, but you can get much crisper rolls by mixing in just a little rudder. The rudder is very effective.
                                Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.

                                Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com

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                                • OV10
                                  >>>Twins are 2X the Fun<<< (Squawk Moderator)

                                  • Sep 2014
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                                  #1116
                                  Originally posted by benjack71
                                  Can you fly the 3 blades on the upgraded motors? I do not want to take away from the scale appearance with the two blade props.
                                  I really didn't expect that type of question :Silly: to come from you Ben. Must be huffin too much nitro lately. LOL

                                  The upgrade motor is an 880kV which is 280 more than the stock 600.
                                  I'm sure you've hit the calculators before and have learned that power is an exponential thing here and most likely you'll roast that motor on a 3 blade.;)
                                  Warbird Charlie
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                                  • benjack71
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                                    #1117
                                    Originally posted by themudduck

                                    Congratulations on your maiden flight!
                                    You may find that the batteries will perform a little better after a few flights. Mine is all stock and I haven't had any problem doing aerobatics. I find that I have to reduce power going downhill, the model accelerates when its going down like no one's business. (My understanding is that the full-size Tigercats were the same.)

                                    Something to mention, maybe you're already aware: the roll rate is somewhat anemic even with a lot of aileron, but you can get much crisper rolls by mixing in just a little rudder. The rudder is very effective.
                                    Yeah, the roll rate was part of the cuban 8 problem no doubt about it. Still not very impressed with the power output

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                                    • benjack71
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                                      #1118
                                      Originally posted by OV10

                                      I really didn't expect that type of question :Silly: to come from you Ben. Must be huffin too much nitro lately. LOL

                                      The upgrade motor is an 880kV which is 280 more than the stock 600.
                                      I'm sure you've hit the calculators before and have learned that power is an exponential thing here and most likely you'll roast that motor on a 3 blade.;)
                                      I understand the increase in the motor rpm. I do not understand how you figure it would roast the motor. It might roast the esc due to over amperage trying to turn those three blades. But the upgraded motor also has increased torque so I am still back to the question that basically centers around what is the shaft like for accepting those three blades. Two blades is more efficient and will have a increased overall top speed. But, three blades or four you have an increase in thrust at lower speed (static thrust) giving you faster acceleration and climbing. So it comes down to you can use built up speed from higher efficiency for maneuvers. Or you can have less efficiency with three blades but an increase in static thrust to push your over the top.

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                                      • benjack71
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                                        #1119

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                                        • rifleman_btx
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                                          #1120
                                          Looks good to me

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