Alternative motor windings and drive schemes

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Maximum torque. Highest maximum speed lowest switching losses. Easiest implementation.

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Don't leave before I give you reprieve. MAYBE Lets see how the three stack up. Mind you the Talega is one of if not the most sophisticated floating zero point space vector control algorithms for aerospace you will find in the "hobby" market even though it's approved for much more serious applications, even underwater. I left a BOM to build the drive. And not one has built it even from plans....😁 and they dont have to code a thing the IC is preloaded with the FW. 🤣

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Does It sound best for the basic Tmotor FOC algorithm that cannot touch the ZFPSVC FOC algorithm In a GaNFeT drive I build with a full programming environment for him since my first dc drive was over 25 years ago ? How does it all stack up for his bad behavior against the TRAP drive potential for a speeder application? Lets see.



And from working directly in the Industry I disagree with the statement about lowest noise. Sinus is the quietest. FOC is not at all quiet starting and stopping an industrial induction motor. It makes all kinds of wonderful high pitched harmonics. It's a very distinct crackle. I sat directly behind large sew euro foc drives for 3 years straight and know without a doubt its a damn lie they quietest in a current flux control algorithm with a soft ramp acceleration and deceleration parameters dialed in.

Trap is best for high torque and high speed and if you can find a FOC drive fast enough to turn 100,000 with a ten pole and not have tremendous losses show it to me . Almost all of them switch to six step operation.

Now u2 and the entire German social media goof troop can do what you want too. I don't really care about it and no one can tell you two anything even though you are here looking at the contradictive data and diagnostic evidence staring you in the face with your ignorant asses. You are nothing but disrupters of real progress for me with the hobbyist technical sections because you simply want to make a sale or be the smartest on a forum without the necessary electrical background. If they knew what was good for them after reading here and viewing the BEMF capture you can say nothing about they'd kick you both to the curb for how grossly incorrect you are. Then if all you have to back your theories is epithet, fallacy, and name calling behind a keyboard 15,000 miles away there's not a damn thing manly or genius about it or your 93.5% and especially not 69%




Good luck....
Hubert

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For everyone else that can receive what I tell them I have received the right glue for the magnets.

Thank You,
Hubert

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Hey Ralph, in Deutschland ist es gerade erst 9:25 Uhr. Ich sehe, du kommst gleich nach dem Aufstehen zum Unterricht. Wo ist dein Klassenkamerad?

Er glaubt, er wüsste alles. Warum hat er dann keinen technischen Beweis für seine Sinuswellen-SL-Maschine? Und was macht er damit, wenn er eine hat und seitdem versucht, sie mit einem Trap-Laufwerk zu koppeln? Er weiß nicht alles, aber das kann man ihm nicht sagen.


Er hat den Unterricht gestern früher verlassen. Du solltest ihm besser per PN mitteilen, dass der Unterricht begonnen hat.


Hubert

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AHH thats so nice sweetie and XNOVA!!....Guess i did have to activate the forum remotely. This level of entertainment cannot be scripted..

we here in America could only hope to match you alls level of advancement.

What a pair of paperclips....we are so blessed to have you...please don't lock us away from all your exclusive knowledge on the subject matter.


Danke,
Hubert

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Das ist auch gut so, denn Sie werden nie ein Getriebe an einem 3040 sehen, es sei denn, SIE tun es. Es ist ein großartiger Motor, aber in einem Flugzeug werden sie Ihnen nichts Episches daran zeigen, also können Sie das vergessen. Ich weiß nicht, ob dort in den letzten 20 Jahren ein Modell gefahren wurde. Was haben Sie außerhalb des Schwimmbeckens gesehen?

Ich habe seit mindestens zehn Jahren nichts anderes gesehen als diese Beschimpfungen.

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If you want that kind of power but higher RPMS for a higher ratio planetary box just look here to America. The 40 mm BLDC drag motors not listed here are 1/4 and half turners. You need a powerful controller to handle the amperage they can absorb without a sweat. DC Resistances to .0001 and lower. They are a little less than 1000 grams and have very high efficiency. The Maxon gearboxes are also lighter for the power they can absorb.

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1545/0.5D/S/2,700 rpm per volt (kv) 8mm

8,500+ watts. Huge motor. Huge Power.

Will spin to 65k rpm on 6s unloaded.
Will spin to 87k rpm on 8s unloaded. That’s borderline for this motor.

Will probably destroy Mamba Max XLX 2 – you’ll need a bigger controller.

Sample photo shown – NOT A 1545 –

$585.00

If the doors stayed closed there it would not be the end of the world.

she can dissipate well over 1000 amperes!

If you want to stir the pot all you have to do is post it in the thread there about the 8s runner.



Maybe you will get luke key and receive a new name.

Strap in tight and get ready for the ride.....its always quiet before the storm.
Hubert

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Er schwänzt auch heute den Unterricht. Dafür werde ich ihm bestimmt eine Strafe aufbrummen.

Er bekommt für heute eine Kündigung und Nachsitzen. Weil er außerhalb des Zauns steht. Ich werde ihn zwingen, wie du regelmäßig am Unterricht teilzunehmen, sonst kriegt er eine sehr schlechte Note.

Es gibt absolut keinen Grund, zu spät zum Unterricht zu kommen, wenn Sie die ganze Zeit in einer Fahrgemeinschaft gefahren sind. Sie hätten ihn heute Morgen wecken sollen.

schau dir die schönen blonden Locken an. sag die Wahrheit, das ist lustig! Das muss Schicksal sein, solche Zufälle gibt es einfach nicht


Hubert

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The right stuff....
Hubert

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For the last time Ralph. Run the 2 Tribunis in the dual inverter configuration at 180 degrees on each stator half and you will inherently protect the rotor magnets. Trust the science. Not the person. The 1st harmonic is what destroys your PM. The 5th is also boosted. With the same exact cut this make more torque and and avoid desynchronization from the pm loosing adequate field. Stop acting silly and listen to what I am telling you. The best drive for your scorpion is the scorpion. Please connect 2 of them in this configuration if you want to rule to social media there. It is a BLDC machine screw all the FOC sinus BS if you want it to run correctly at high speed and make alot of torque for a speed plane.

I wont spend 12 more years with it. if you do not understand what the harmonics do i have done my best to explain it. This moves the magnitude vectors 30 degrees they same way a hybrid wind does.

You can wind your motors your way. It will still improve the performance young man and remove some of the wires crosstalk too.

If you work with scorpion to get into the inverter really then there is a special transistor switching FW that will let you run in a decoupled state even though 1 battery runs it all

Other wise you better to split capacity between the inverters and run separate packs to to each one to keep a similar footprint and a decoupled power supply.

Get you 2 new Tribunis inverters and leave that old YGE nonsense in the croco museum bruh.

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People are literally ignorant to the science. If you are after a sinus system then any harmonics other than a 2 pole are nothing to want and thus those harmonics would be seen as noise and unwanted. But if the system is BLDC then u need some of those same harmonics you'd rid your self of in a sinus system to form the trap or triangle and be optimal for the trap inverter. Naturally you'd remove the sinus signature as much as possible into a flat top it is that simple. Please stop making it so difficult. The other responsible harmonics signal is the Triplen or 3rd on top of a sinus which give you a triangle basically.

And Jesus Christ cut a few strips of 1- 2mm thick G10 or carbon fiber and stick it under the hammers to close the slots and test it.

You know yourself that carbon fiber will shield high frequency radio and micro waves (2.4ghz) because you have to get your RX's Antennae outside it to work. It cant filter the driving wave of a motor at 500 hz because the waveforms are too long to reflect it. The period starts beyond the barrier. Its a natural low pass filter but you need a professional background in audio engineering to understand that as well. I have that too Ralph. Christian has no business calling me a donkey but I want you to see what science has to say about it from a certified audio engineer. An entirely different discipline Ralph. I have over 36 years in it. I was certified there and worked with some of the best in the world before I ever had an electrical engineering degree.

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And now your brother has finally showed up for class. In real life I don't know him. Nver talked to him once on a phone.

u2 are the real collaborators. stop playing in front of the cameras....

lets see what he says. u know itz gone be crazy as hell and have nothing to do with the subject matter of motor waveforms and drives 101.

What's the latest name in the sinus game Chris?

Go ahead and fire away i'm going to pot these motors and read along cheerfully.



Thanks
Hubert

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Hey Ralph i see you and your other friend from Germany is in the room. Has luke ever been quiet? . He know he's wrong about the sinus but he will never admit that in front of the open forum but everyone has seen what I have laid out clearly for the class room lesson. They have also seen the contradicting emails where he admits my strengths versus his weaknesses in the field of electronics then comes to the open forum and shows his whole azz.

What can he say that's relevant to the subject matter that actually supports his idea?

The name calling yielded zero. Fot intelligent inquiry nonsense doesn't suffice. He asked for a drive I built and got it. nothing but pure fallacy that i can disprove at a moments notice like so on any subject I speak on. Sinus still isn't king for a speed plane point blank!

Because he ran 50 mph in 80s he believes he should be unchallenged on hobby forums but that is not the case or reality to even think it. He throws that around a lot but it doesn't create waveforms as you see.

Just like the winding diagrams to his friend. i gave him the purchased winding manuals and nothing occurred with all the "vast" knowledge from the dream team. If they had ever wound it and examined it diagnostically they'd know. Too buzy on forums TYPING!



Its eazy to type....

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What's to be understood about FOC is it always applies torque at 90 degree to the rotor position so it is the max torque per ampere option. most powerful and very efficient in that regard but the algorithm is complex and real time not look up tables in a registry plus alot of transistor switching losses to create the sinus stepped PWM. Now you want to turn a 10 pole 100.000 rpm you run into process speed complexity problems and muddy PWM pulse trains. He asked me what I know about it after he asked me have I ever built a PWM based direct current dc drive.

An "H" bridge... they all basically the same......


So I showed him mine that ran at 1.5khz pwm and that this is what I know about FOC drives in 2025 , My own GanFet drive I want to build uses one of the most sophisticated forms of FOC space vector commutation you will find and it was developed by my partner in inverter research Pavel who has degrees in electrical engineering and computer science and they blend together. Computer science is another discipline altogether Ralph. So he can understand better than me the programming much faster of the built hardware which I have no issue with. His preloaded IC with FET drivers onboard REALLY helps me bring a device forward quickly. I only pass it on to you guys. What is Donkey about it? i'm trying to show you what is new and help you conceptualize and build a short current path embedded prop learning FOC drive for an airplane. Am I the Donkey? How?

The GanFET and SiCFet devices are in the attachments. Ask Christian what does he know about them and how they can improve my ability to deliver really high current to a motor with my FOC based 3 phase inverter? Similar To Pavels here that's is already proven great. the Fet tech is what is used in formula 1 drives. Ask Chris where I work now and is it possible I know anything about SiC and GaNfet transistors and how they are made made?

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I also have DSPIC 16 bit PIC MCU's that have all the same DSP functionality as the 32 bit atmel MCU's but they are absolutely raw with no programming . I can put together the hardware then you ask your brother can he program it for FOC commutation . It can do all of that and give real time output to a graphic LCD. Ask him can he set up the prop learning algorithm that works similarly as the DSP self calibration in an exclusive surround sound set up for home audio and visual entertainment?

Its eazy to type anything but the necessary code....

I can build him active or passive low , bandpass, notch, and high pass fitters to the 8th order. What hardware does he need to get his part done for Clugh?

I am supposed to be his friend and have supported him so you have to ask him why he'd jump rite out the box and call me a donkey for telling him what I know is fact about the winding waveforms and drives.

Danke,
Hubert