Ich habe dir gesagt, dass sie weinen und sich daneben benehmen würden. Mach das nicht. Bleib ultratechnisch.
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My HP
On Board Video F3-Speed Typhoon 450km/h
Mantikor XS Flight
Typhoon Ultra - 570km/h
Typhoon Ultra 568km/h on average, 600km/h from one side
Sure Kai!
79% = no official pass over 600KMH both ways. He will never get there consistently Chris as his YGE is set up in protection mode.... So it will protect itself from The 5050's heat and rising resistance running at its limits. See the speed wall?
More data that it does not do the 600 km/h with any regularity especially with the YGE 320 that is producing the low efficiency with the engine. Dzhamel is 3 planes in with the 5040/5050s. They all have failed and crashed. 1 went 603 one time two more attempts and that plane was finished. They hid that motor and plane from the forums afterwards. Ralph destroyed his 400 yge around the same time with his engine. Pulling all that amperage for no real return but more heat. At least 2 more competitors lost their inverters in that same week. One drive was the heli pilots Marian inspected.
Remember????
He had to buy used navy version from the swap meet because he has burned all his YGE's up
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Hi Hubert,
I'm not stupid and don't give this group even a cent. You have the outrunner, you wouldn't have it without me, who trained the motor winder from Teutleben? He knew nothing about stators and their dimensioning and design. Without me, Martin would never have drawn the stators they use now. When I support someone, it's the students at the UNI in Munich who use it to train and secure a great job after their studies. Should they go to Mr. Go to Siemens and get a motor as a gift or go to Robert Bosch. Maybe Porsche or Ferrari will give you an engine? Do you think Edison would have given them an engine? or Nicola Tesla, ha ha, they're all losers. They invest rubbish from the scrapyard in these engines, this junk crew collects what they can find and then it's over. I just received a broken Scorpion motor from someone I didn't know. It simply broke because they used aluminum and steel that was far too soft for the rotor bell, which bent in a small crash. It is so soft that you can bend it with a simple pair of pliers without much effort. I put an old rotor bell from Hacker on it that happened to fit and now the motor is running again and what was even more powerful was a Scorpion 10-pole versus a Hacker 14-pole.
The other question i send you later a mail.
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Ok i will keep the zapper plan under lock and key. iI know you don't want I SPY to learn the secrets to post assembly magnetization. please dont volley back n forth as the rest of the day will be filled with skewed data and alot of fallacy. None of it raises the 79% so It isnt worth your time. Lehner has a shop open to the public. Kai is mad he spends a 1000 euros on 79% and cant hit 600 consistently. You know they did not know that's all they were getting for big euros. He's been telling them the pk is at 24kW but its not even half that.. They know very well that 79.% is below mediocre.Originally posted by Chxpress View Post
Thats a grade C reptile....
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And yeah I know powercrocos scorpions with the 2 cheap steel bearings are known for that poor radial support. Here is where his 5050 rubs the bell and stator together and chips the PM. Surely an anomalous inconsistent BEMF wave form preceded it. I have 2 here's on my desk that are the same way except the stator actually shifted and I had to glue it back into place.They were also slipping the endbell that connect it to the shaft or scorpion wouldn't have added the bell set screw on the side you see in the IV versions. The A series is a better machine than the HK anyway.
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Sie sehen einen Idioten, der immer noch über eine Erhöhung der Werkswindgeschwindigkeit im Vergleich zum Prozentsatz der Schlitzfüllung spricht. Holger hat ihnen gerade gleichzeitig gesagt, dass Entschlossenheit in der Tat sehr wenig bedeutet. Alles, was Holger getan hat, ist, es auf eine Erhöhung der Kupfergeschwindigkeit über den Faktor umzulenken, aber was bedeutet das, da Ralph an Effizienz verloren hat, als er die Drähte von OEM gewechselt hat?
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Hey Chris the KT on the S55 series scorpion in the plot is less than my Align 700.
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Genug von Grenzmaschinen. Christian, hast du jemals berechnet, wie stark sich eine Reduzierung des Leerlaufstroms um beispielsweise 1 Ampere auf den endgültigen Wirkungsgrad auswirkt? Ich bin neugierig, denn mit einem guten Lager kann man den Leerlaufstrom um diesen Betrag oder mehr reduzieren und 500 U/min oder mehr hinzufügen. Es reduziert auf jeden Fall den Leerlaufstrom und verhindert, dass sich die Welle verdreifacht.Comment
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Hi Christian,
I am silly so please forgive me. I've looked that h slot car PDF that they are laughing at and see it has alot of the zap information I needed. I understand now how they got the radial magnetization. I apologize for asking for information you have already posted. I didn't realize the paper had all the information In it. Im in school right now reading the paper and following the trail where it leads.
I told you things will settle with the troop. Bickering on social media wont improve the motors poor efficiency. They should be mad at their vendor who has been misleading them for years. It isnt anyone else job to make them accept the truth that has been openly reported. B4 us if you would have ask one of those kids their efficiency they would have told you 90% something. Now they know the truth about the motor at the nose of their 20 speed planes. No vendors cater to them. The efficiency isn't even 80% it is 79.4% based on the torque constant and final rpm.
Mission completed. There is no backing out. "boho1" is done....
Let him have his little corner in crocoworld back.
Thank you for your time and patience
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In America if a wire is deemed a certain AWG that means the bare copper has a minimum diameter . You don't count the insulation in a copper fill measurement so that does not matter. The few micron in isolations wont change how much copper he has in the slot area. It will help fit wire if the insulation is thinner but 17 AWG is 17 AWG as a standard and so forth. there wont be a percent gained in the complaints there. Certainly is has an insulation thickness of some type so if he doing his calculation by weight or a set of calipers Verus the wires specification he is not fully accurate because enamel also weighs is what blue was trying to tell him. The hobbyist doesn't understand about the micro weights differences in enamel. or the fact that these small difference wont give him anything. 65% 66% is fairly average for a good hand winder and a long ways from 90% fill the machine achieved. The point.
But you see the Fallacy again. People at McDonalds can cook. They cook just like or better than we do when they go home to their families. At McDonald which is their job they have a standardized cooking protocol to follow to the letter and ingredients they have to use provided by McDonald for the consistent McDonalds taste to millions served not 20. That was a horrible analogy and has zero to do with copper fill.
I guess winding drone motors is his first job in the hospitality sector.
Thats the bad behavior you see. I think he wants a "monolog" huh Ralph?
Lol
Hubert
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Hi Christian,
I read your post and would like to say In America for this wind Id chose 25AWG which is .455 mm in diameters. Our sizes are always a hair larger than the wire used in Europe. The values are always slightly different winding AWG. It also mean the fill would be slightly more than what he has done and obviously looking at all the airspace it will fit.
There you have half sizes so that is really nice for a winder to have that option. They don't seem to use it much.
Thank you
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In Big wire winding Modisc 7050 wit 10 AWG is still the king as far as I'm am concerned . 2.5mm. is a thick wire to handle. Of course Ralph was jealous and had something negative to say. They trolled him till he just left the forums. He is another EXCELLENT hand winder. Most of their time is spent being jealous of other competent winders. Ralph talks alot about the ability of Chinees peoples. Modisc is in fact Chinese American. If you look at the size he has written it appears the wire has around 40 microns of insulation in his example but the minimum diameter is always is met.
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Mr. Ralph was just as jealous as he could be. He couldn't praise it. But I like it much better than his parallel bi filar stranded HK . It truly isnt a bifilar coil where a coil loop is actually wound around the tooth. They describe it wrong technically. According to the AFD from Dresden the Chinese are poor engineers but scorpion is head quartered there. And it also doesn't explain what you see here from the Chinese American Urologist. Which is incredible actually.
Of course I congratulated him while Ralph's fans hated as usual. They are the disruptive ones. I would not be surprised if they pushed Bert Dekker quickly to the finish line.
I dont like it because Bert does a great job he is not arrogant and a really nice guy from my experience talking to him. Nver had an issue saying " nice wind " . Sometimes room is not left for the less controversial. Bert Dekker is a damn good PERSON then winder they lost Chris.Attached FilesComment
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Because all he ever cared about was the lower DCR I don't think the little boy in Dresden ever compared the efficiency of the single wire system versus the 2 strand that is 4 strands into each motor terminal in a parallel wye. The DD is is even worse bilfilar. Too many parallel strands at 1.32mm running unbalanced current between the two wires at every level in the slot. I don't want it! Too much ac noise at high rpm for me. Youd think he'd care to find out all what really works best at 79%. Irrespective of the dc resistance because the motor doesn't run at extremely low rpms or at DC (Stall). His 70 series idle current data shows him it is a bad idea but the guy needs a manual and is extremely hard headed. His bundles see skin and more prox effect than the single so he may as well wind just the one big wire if he is going to multi strand in 1.5 and 1.32mm untwisted conductor. At low speed and low frequency that would be fine and why it works at 2 s lipo but at high rpm where it makes it's (full power) it is a total wash in better efficiency based on the lower DCR.
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The loud mouth hobbyist in Germany will question others chart reading abilities but it seems to me it is he and his friends that have major difficulty reading and interpreting charts and data from the PHd in the field on electrical engineering. This is Dr David Dorell's work. Look at the RPM and power levels tested.
How many times have I shown this German this chart!!! They cannot see the additive loss of additional stranding or the fact that AC loss is as much 10 times higher than the DC.
The information is right down his alley and you can track the phenomena with his 70 series machine.Comment
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So you see 80% eta is what all the part motors and parallel strands amount to. You pay over 1000 euros for it.
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Motor 1 733.664 watts lost at idle
Motor 2 743.36 watts lost at idle
Motor 3 757.34 watts lost at idle
Motor 4 776.7324 watts lost at idle
But he cant see that additive effect. Or that this is well over a loss of a horse at idle. But you see the same 80% eta....
The motor almost falls directly into Dr Dorells data on the subject matter.
So what did the lower DCR from paralleling all the strands do for Ralph?Comment
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Edit this is interesting if you look closely.
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