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Originally posted by ndrew3 View Post
Gotcha, thanks man! I have it Y'd to one of the aux channels, but had heard some stuff about having to cut the red wire from the ESC, so didn't want to mess anything up first time I plugged it in.
On Dynam twins, they don't cut any red wires. They just use both power leads in parallel.
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This last week end, we took the Nok Air out for a spin. The skies were clear and blue. Dan Metz of the Coachella Valley RC Club flew the plan while Bob Husar, builder/owner, recorded the flight. We had an RC truck with a 4k runcam 2 to capture the low passes. We call it a mobile "buzz cam". Here's a shot where Dan took it down to about 12 inches (or lower?).
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Originally posted by xviper View PostThe ESCs on this plane are "opto" and thus, have no power going thru the red wire and as such, an extension will also have no power going thru the red wire.
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I got re-acquainted with a fellow RC pilot and I had forgotten that he is a long haul 777 pilot (real one) for WestJet. Since the pandemic, those long haul flights have been curtailed and he got a bit of a demotion to fly the 737 Max8 when they started to get re-certified. I told him I had the model of the plane he normally flies in the WestJet livery. He got very excited and wanted to see it fly someday soon.
Anyway, we got talking about the mods I did to my model, one of which was chopping off the lower winglets because I wanted to help control the yaw waggle a bit. I said that to completely eliminate the waggle, I'm putting a gyro back in. He tended to agree with both mods - removal of the lower winglet and the addition of a gyro. He said that in his Max8 training, they went through various scenarios, one being turning OFF the Max8's yaw damper. When that's done, any passenger sitting at the rear of the plane would most likely upchuck their cookies from the plane swaying side to side. So it would seem that the real Max8 relies heavily on a yaw damper and those planes that have only the upper winglet don't waggle nearly as much when the damper is turned off.
PS. I also fly RC with a fellow from DOT whose team is re-certifying both the Max8 and the Max8 pilots in our city (WestJet's head office).
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I think most airliners suffer from dutch roll due to the immense lateral stability from the extremely long wings and the swept angle, the vertical stabs are already enormous so I guess there's a limit to how large they can get.
It would be interesting to configure the gyro to have gain only on the yaw axis and move from 0 to 100 during a flight to see how it altered the flight characteristics of the AL37.
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Originally posted by mshagg View PostIt would be interesting to configure the gyro to have gain only on the yaw axis and move from 0 to 100 during a flight to see how it altered the flight characteristics of the AL37.
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True, but fewer letters to type. Not sure these little electronic devices should ever be called gyros. I’ve traditionally thought of a gyro as something that spins very rapidly. There’s nothing spinning inside these things. My first helicopter tail gyro sounded like it had something spinning up.
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You can always type these….more properly:
Solid State Gyro or….
Microelectromechanical gyro
While solid state accelerometers are used inside these tiny marvels vs spinning wheels, the function is as that of a gyro.
AND….gyro is easy to type!
Hint: Not that you would not, but keep the mods symmetrical to both sides. I once flew with only one winglet on (waiting for glue to dry). BIG MISTAKE. The roll this induced was BAD!
Side story: Many years ago, I was given a tour of the USS Francis Scott Key (SSBN-657) nuclear submarine during which the engineer discussed the INS (inertial nav sys). A tiny Beryllium sphere suspended in a vacuum held in place with a magnetic field spinning at many thousands of RPM and its orientation was measured by lasers to give the computers the needed INS info. I was impressed! Current INS technology is improved on this…no doubt.
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I actually got some time to paint and do some lettering. Looking forward to getting this thing in the air!Last edited by Marco Polo; May 24, 2021, 05:45 PM.
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