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Official Freewing 90mm F-4 Phantom II Thread

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  • Clearblue
    No Dear, That isn't New?

    • Oct 2016
    • 169
    • Urbana, Illinois.
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    #1221
    Amazing work sir! Looking forward to seeing that flight video. Your hard work, and thought process shines brightly with this Gem of a Mod...:Cool:

    Jim.

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    • Sky Wolf
      Flying Ant

      • Sep 2013
      • 731
      • Irving, Texas
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      #1222
      I only wish to have half of your ingenuity, wisdom and forethought!!

      Awesome job Steve :Cool:

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      • RCjetdude
        Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

        • May 2016
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        #1223
        I wish I had half of what you think I have. LOL

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        • Grossman56
          Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

          • Jun 2014
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          • Cody, Wyoming
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          #1224
          Just when we were nicely finished ewwing and ahhhing over the A-10, Steve rolls out the A-4!:P:P:P:Cool::Cool::Cool::Cool:
          Just when we were nicely finished ewwing and ahhhing over the A-4, Steve rolls out the F-4!:Silly::Silly::Silly::Silly::Silly::Silly::Cool: :Cool::Cool::Cool:
          Just when we were nicely finished ewwing and ahhhing over the F-4, Steve rolls out the __________
          (Fill in the blank):Not-Talking:
          Grossman56
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          • apmech1
            Warbirds old and new

            • Jan 2014
            • 266
            • CVG Airport, Kentucky
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            #1225
            Awesom job on the chute rcjetdude!

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            • Hardway
              Hobby Squawk Moderator

              • Mar 2017
              • 3148
              • Willow Park, Texas
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              #1226
              Yes indeed! Steve rolls out the Foil!

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              • RCjetdude
                Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

                • May 2016
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                #1227
                OK. Here is a taxi and chute deployment video for you. I quickly got it to this point so I could test it out and it works great.

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                • purduephigam
                  Jet degenerate

                  • May 2017
                  • 352
                  • Plainfield, Illinois
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                  #1228
                  :Win:

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                  • Clearblue
                    No Dear, That isn't New?

                    • Oct 2016
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                    • Urbana, Illinois.
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                    #1229
                    Very nice! That looked and worked great... You might have just created a sideline job should you choose? I don't even have this Jet on order yet, But I'd but the chute kit if you decide too make a few? Hint, hint!;)

                    Jim

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                    • Helmsman52
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                      • Jan 2017
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                      • Saint Paul, MN
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                      #1230
                      Originally posted by RCjetdude
                      OK. Here is a taxi and chute deployment video for you. I quickly got it to this point so I could test it out and it works great.

                      And you doubted it?!:P
                      You master mod - monster! Great work my friend! :Cool:

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                      • Grossman56
                        Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

                        • Jun 2014
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                        #1231
                        Way to go Steve!!

                        Grossman56
                        Team Gross!

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                        • joe671
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                          • Oct 2017
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                          #1232
                          Originally posted by RCjetdude
                          OK. Here is a taxi and chute deployment video for you. I quickly got it to this point so I could test it out and it works great.

                          Have you thought about selling kits? I would totally buy some!

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                          • Aros
                            Lead Adminstrator / Warbirdaholic

                            • May 2013
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                            • Astoria, OR
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                            #1233
                            I would so be one of the first in line for a kit (hint, hint)... ;) AWESOME Steve!!
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                            • RickVB
                              Hobby Squawk Student Pilot

                              • May 2016
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                              • Novi, MI
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                              #1234
                              Well done, Steve!

                              His video clearly demonstrates an issue I've been mulling over - how to improve the ground turning radius. Anyone else noticed that it's tough to turn this plane around in less than 20 feet?

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                              • Alpha
                                Former Motion RC Staff

                                • Feb 2015
                                • 4110
                                • The North Pole
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                                #1235
                                Originally posted by RickVB
                                Well done, Steve!

                                His video clearly demonstrates an issue I've been mulling over - how to improve the ground turning radius. Anyone else noticed that it's tough to turn this plane around in less than 20 feet?
                                Freewing mechanically limits the turning radius on many models to minimize the risk of tipping them over after a landing when enough speed has not yet been scrubbed. It's common to see pilots trying to turn around too soon at too high a ground speed, resulting in scraped wingtips or worse.

                                To tighten the turning radius, move the clevis to the outermost hole on the steering servo. In models with a steering arm on the nose strut as well (instead of the captive sliding arm), move the clevis to the innermost hole. Experiment with your model and verify that the nose wheel doesn't bind in the retracted position. Two mixes may prove helpful:

                                1) A mix that cancels nose strut steering when the landing gear is retracted (this requires the steering servo to be in a separate rx port, however).
                                2) A mix that limits the steering throw as the throttle increases. i.e. on 0% throttle, the steering can move 100% of its range. At 30% throttle, the steering can move 60% of its range. Etc, etc. You'll need to experiment with your specific model (and runway surface) to find a balance between having the thrust to get moving, and having enough steering to matter.


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                                • TiredIronGRB
                                  Post-Apocalyptic Tactical Consultant

                                  • Jan 2016
                                  • 3986
                                  • Church Hill, Tennessee
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                                  #1236
                                  Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC

                                  Freewing mechanically limits the turning radius on many models to minimize the risk of tipping them over after a landing when enough speed has not yet been scrubbed. It's common to see pilots trying to turn around too soon at too high a ground speed, resulting in scraped wingtips or worse.

                                  To tighten the turning radius, move the clevis to the outermost hole on the steering servo. In models with a steering arm on the nose strut as well (instead of the captive sliding arm), move the clevis to the innermost hole. Experiment with your model and verify that the nose wheel doesn't bind in the retracted position. Two mixes may prove helpful:

                                  1) A mix that cancels nose strut steering when the landing gear is retracted (this requires the steering servo to be in a separate rx port, however).
                                  2) A mix that limits the steering throw as the throttle increases. i.e. on 0% throttle, the steering can move 100% of its range. At 30% throttle, the steering can move 60% of its range. Etc, etc. You'll need to experiment with your specific model (and runway surface) to find a balance between having the thrust to get moving, and having enough steering to matter.

                                  I usually put the steering servo on a separate channel, give it the maximum travel available without binding and jack up the expo to 40%.
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                                  • Sky Wolf
                                    Flying Ant

                                    • Sep 2013
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                                    • Irving, Texas
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                                    #1237
                                    Way to go Steve! Excited to see that baby at Joe Nall!!

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                                    • RCjetdude
                                      Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

                                      • May 2016
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                                      #1238
                                      Originally posted by Sky Wolf
                                      Way to go Steve! Excited to see that baby at Joe Nall!!
                                      Thanks Anthony. So far so good. More testing required of the jettison function. Getting the cockpit detail and radio installation sorted out now. I am soooo ready to start painting it and having fun along with everyone else.

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                                      • RCjetdude
                                        Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

                                        • May 2016
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                                        #1239
                                        Originally posted by Clearblue
                                        Very nice! That looked and worked great... You might have just created a sideline job should you choose? I don't even have this Jet on order yet, But I'd but the chute kit if you decide too make a few? Hint, hint!;)

                                        Jim
                                        Thanks Jim. Contemplating what I can do for a kit. I may be able to provide a short kit with instructions for what could be done to complete it. I could provide the custom fiber glass tail parts and maybe some other components Paul Helmsman is the chute guru extraordinaire which is the most costly part of the system but also the most visually appealing. I have no intentions of making chutes myself. I am excited that he is looking at making a red/white chute which would really be the icing on the cake IMHO. Paul and I have collaborated enough on this project that his chutes should fit in the tail section as I have designed it. He is the one who came up with the ingenious idea to use the existing CF tube in the tail section for the release mechanism.

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                                        • Dlxpkg2000
                                          Gravitational Inspector

                                          • Apr 2016
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                                          • The Windy City, Chicago, Il.
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                                          #1240
                                          I'll probably be ordering one of the chutes from a model rocket supply shop, posted earlier. What size did you wind up installing, Steve ? Not a lot of room back there, even with the new tail-piece.

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