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  • I bought the card as well. I asked someone else what settings to program the ESC. I’ll attach them below. You have to watch a YouTube video to learn how to use it but it’s pretty simple once you see it. I had to solder the 3 female motor connectors and extend the battery lead. I bought the extension off amazon.

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    • I only fly with HRB batteries. The 5000mah 50c have been great. The probably have 75-100 EDF flights on them. I decided to try the 6000mah HRB today and I have buyers remorse. The F-16 will get 4 minuets of pretty hard flying on the 5000s. I assumed I’d get a little longer of a flight from the added size. That was not the case. It obviously flew heavier and I decided to land at 3:30. The plane landed great, but wouldn’t provide thrust after it came to a full stop. I had just done the YEP 150amp ESC and FMS upgrade so I thought I fried something. I checked the battery when I got home and it had 3% left. I’m guessing the workload of carrying the extra weight used the battery up quicker? Or do you think it was just a new battery that hadn’t been broken in? I wish I stuck with the 5000... there was a noticeable difference in performance. Oh, that ESC and fan upgrade is a must... both are cheaper together that the freewing inrunner

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      • Hey guys, if I do this FMS fan and motor upgrade on my F-16, I take it that it's not a drop in fit and requires some surgery on the fuselage and I can't use the stock 130 amp ESC??

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        • Originally posted by C17loadmaster View Post
          I only fly with HRB batteries. The 5000mah 50c have been great. The probably have 75-100 EDF flights on them. I decided to try the 6000mah HRB today and I have buyers remorse. The F-16 will get 4 minuets of pretty hard flying on the 5000s. I assumed I’d get a little longer of a flight from the added size. That was not the case. It obviously flew heavier and I decided to land at 3:30. The plane landed great, but wouldn’t provide thrust after it came to a full stop. I had just done the YEP 150amp ESC and FMS upgrade so I thought I fried something. I checked the battery when I got home and it had 3% left. I’m guessing the workload of carrying the extra weight used the battery up quicker? Or do you think it was just a new battery that hadn’t been broken in? I wish I stuck with the 5000... there was a noticeable difference in performance. Oh, that ESC and fan upgrade is a must... both are cheaper together that the freewing inrunner
          Ouch! Yes it did. There is a point when battery weight overloads the performance parameters of a given size of the plane. I would actually venture to guess if you had gone the other way, to 4500 or even 4000 you could have gotten the extra flight time due to not needing as much on the go stick.

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          • Originally posted by rifleman_btx View Post

            Ouch! Yes it did. There is a point when battery weight overloads the performance parameters of a given size of the plane. I would actually venture to guess if you had gone the other way, to 4500 or even 4000 you could have gotten the extra flight time due to not needing as much on the go stick.
            Yeah I kinda figured I’ll try it in other planes with less of a wing load.

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            • Originally posted by DCORSAIR View Post
              Hey guys, if I do this FMS fan and motor upgrade on my F-16, I take it that it's not a drop in fit and requires some surgery on the fuselage and I can't use the stock 130 amp ESC??
              The stock ESC will eventually stop working. Everyone that said theirs worked fine came back and retracted their statements with the eventual ruined 130a ESC. The YEP 150a and the FMS fan combined is actually the cheaper option and weighs less.

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              • Originally posted by C17loadmaster View Post

                Yeah I kinda figured I’ll try it in other planes with less of a wing load.
                There ya go, atleast it won't go wasted:Cool:

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                • I put a gps unit in my F-16 with the YEP 150 and FMS fan. It clocked 111mph in level flight using a 4000mah battery

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                  • That ain't too bad at all!

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                    • I really like this jet! I upgraded the motor to the 12 blade in-runner and WOW, it's quick and really good vertical! Not unlimited vertical, but more than enough.

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                      • Originally posted by RCPilot66 View Post
                        I really like this jet! I upgraded the motor to the 12 blade in-runner and WOW, it's quick and really good vertical! Not unlimited vertical, but more than enough.
                        Which EDF did you use?

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                        • Originally posted by RCPilot66 View Post
                          I really like this jet! I upgraded the motor to the 12 blade in-runner and WOW, it's quick and really good vertical! Not unlimited vertical, but more than enough.
                          I upgraded my F-16 to the inrunner FW 4068-1680kv and it is just perfect, not to fast that you need expo but better than stock and even though vertical isn't unlimited, it went up as far as I could hardly tell which way it was going, love it, it was worth the investment. It was good stock but the upgrade gave it a little more speed and vertical and a great sound. I tried the FMS 12 blade 1900kv in my F-15, it wasn't any faster than the FW upgrade, so I didn't try it in the F-16, in the F-15 it's a drop in fit but the F-16 requires a little surgery, so that is the other reason I went with the FW, it's a drop in fit and I don't have to buy another ESC, these stock ESC's seem to be fine, lots of flights with no issues using the FW 4068-1680. So now my F-15, F-16 and the F-4 have the 4068-1680, sweet sound.

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                          • Originally posted by DCORSAIR View Post

                            I upgraded my F-16 to the inrunner FW 4068-1680kv and it is just perfect, not to fast that you need expo but better than stock and even though vertical isn't unlimited, it went up as far as I could hardly tell which way it was going, love it, it was worth the investment. It was good stock but the upgrade gave it a little more speed and vertical and a great sound. I tried the FMS 12 blade 1900kv in my F-15, it wasn't any faster than the FW upgrade, so I didn't try it in the F-16, in the F-15 it's a drop in fit but the F-16 requires a little surgery, so that is the other reason I went with the FW, it's a drop in fit and I don't have to buy another ESC, these stock ESC's seem to be fine, lots of flights with no issues using the FW 4068-1680. So now my F-15, F-16 and the F-4 have the 4068-1680, sweet sound.
                            At first I was going to do the same and even purchased the Inrunner. I wanted the weight savings so I went with the FMS and YEP 150 because it was so much lighter and actually cost less for both components than just for the heavier Inrunner. I sold it on eBay. Do you have telemetry or a gps unit in yours? Just curious to see what is faster. My F-16 was 111mph in level flight

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                            • Originally posted by C17loadmaster View Post

                              At first I was going to do the same and even purchased the Inrunner. I wanted the weight savings so I went with the FMS and YEP 150 because it was so much lighter and actually cost less for both components than just for the heavier Inrunner. I sold it on eBay. Do you have telemetry or a gps unit in yours? Just curious to see what is faster. My F-16 was 111mph in level flight
                              No, I don't have any idea on my speed, don't run telemetry or anything like that, I flew it stock and made the switch in 10 minutes and flew back to back and yes, way better than stock. I didn't go with the FMS because I didn't want to cut on my fuselage, the FW unit is a drop in fit and you can use the stock ESC. I wasn't impressed with the FMS unit in the F-15 so I didn't want to bother with it in the F-16. The FMS is lighter, but the FW sounds better, that inrunner is quiet so you can really hear the wooosh, which is what I like more than performance.

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                              • Originally posted by dkalwishky View Post

                                Which EDF did you use?
                                Dave, I used the inrunner FW 4068-1680kv on both my Freewing F-16s. One of the guys in our club has a radar gun. Both of my Freewing F-16s came in at 113 - 116 mph straight and level on the radar gun.

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                                • I have the FW "High-Speed" in-runner on a 6S in my F-15 as was thinking about trying the FMS fan in it. Can I assume you would recommend keeping what I have in it instead?

                                  I bought the 8S F-4 with the intent of pulling the power system and putting it in the F-16. I've only flown it once so far as an 8S but it was such a difference that two other guys at my field are now getting the 8S setup as well.


                                  Originally posted by DCORSAIR View Post

                                  No, I don't have any idea on my speed, don't run telemetry or anything like that, I flew it stock and made the switch in 10 minutes and flew back to back and yes, way better than stock. I didn't go with the FMS because I didn't want to cut on my fuselage, the FW unit is a drop in fit and you can use the stock ESC. I wasn't impressed with the FMS unit in the F-15 so I didn't want to bother with it in the F-16. The FMS is lighter, but the FW sounds better, that inrunner is quiet so you can really hear the wooosh, which is what I like more than performance.

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                                  • Originally posted by RCPilot66 View Post

                                    Dave, I used the inrunner FW 4068-1680kv on both my Freewing F-16s. One of the guys in our club has a radar gun. Both of my Freewing F-16s came in at 113 - 116 mph straight and level on the radar gun.
                                    Wow, I knew it was fast but not that fast, impressive I would say....:Cool:

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                                    • This is a great flying plane on 8s from FW. The only problem is the landing gear. Soft landings are a must to keep the plastic mounts in place. The gear just does not work every time, I wonder if the problem is in the control panel? Any ideas?

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                                      • Originally posted by duke View Post
                                        This is a great flying plane on 8s from FW. The only problem is the landing gear. Soft landings are a must to keep the plastic mounts in place. The gear just does not work every time, I wonder if the problem is in the control panel? Any ideas?
                                        Sounds like you had your share of problems with the gear, I've had four of these 90mm F-16 and only once did I have a problem with one nose gear, it was acting up so I bought a new one and it didn't want to work right either so I mixed some parts from the old unit with the new and it worked great with a whole bunch of flights after that and then I sold it but it was still working great, my other three didn't have any issues at all and I fly off asphalt and had hard landings. So you could have a problem somewhere in the board maybe. Can you post a video of them working so we can see how they work?

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                                        • Most of the time it's one of the rear gears not working. Cycle a time or two and it works.:Confused:

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