Official Freewing Twin 80mm/90mm A-10 Thunderbolt II Thread

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  • RCjetdude
    Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

    • May 2016
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    #10981
    Originally posted by Elbee

    WH, Don't know the absolute limit, though I recall RCjetdude's A-10 was just above 14 lbs with all his mods. Best, LB
    Mine flew at 16lbs. on the stock fans.

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    • Warthog
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      • Feb 2020
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      #10982
      With all the mods I did, mine comes in at just under 17 lbs.! Haven’t flown it yet. It has 12 blade 90mm EDFs. 10g wire all through, 130 amp ESCs and the batteries are 8000 mah 100C.

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      • salali
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        #10983
        Anyone know where I can find the gray tape used to hide the servo wires on the base grey stock model?

        Thanks.

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        • Elbee
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          • Feb 2018
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          #10984
          Originally posted by salali
          Anyone know where I can find the gray tape used to hide the servo wires on the base grey stock model? Thanks.
          SI, Welcome to "The Squawk". I used white electricians' tape from the local home store. It came in a blaster pack with 3 or 4 other colors. I painted it with matching latex paints.. Make certain the tape is 'relaxed' before painting it and allow it to dry completely before lifting it to add to your airframe. I did the "Peanut Scheme" though and had the latex paints on hand. You could do something similarly with either latex or enamels, I would think.. Best, LB

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          "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
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          • salali
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            #10985
            Originally posted by Elbee

            SI, Welcome to "The Squawk". I used white electricians' tape from the local home store. It came in a blaster pack with 3 or 4 other colors. I painted it with matching latex paints.. Make certain the tape is 'relaxed' before painting it and allow it to dry completely before lifting it to add to your airframe. I did the "Peanut Scheme" though and had the latex paints on hand. You could do something similarly with either latex or enamels, I would think.. Best, LB

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            Thanks Elbee . That's a great idea. I'll either look for a color match at my local hobby store or color match at paint store.

            You did an amazing job w/ your A-10. I'm seriously thinking about customizing mine to the Blacksnake livery. Tracking orientation might be an issue though.

            ~Cheers

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            • Warthog
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              #10986
              Originally posted by Elbee

              SI, Welcome to "The Squawk". I used white electricians' tape from the local home store. It came in a blaster pack with 3 or 4 other colors. I painted it with matching latex paints.. Make certain the tape is 'relaxed' before painting it and allow it to dry completely before lifting it to add to your airframe. I did the "Peanut Scheme" though and had the latex paints on hand. You could do something similarly with either latex or enamels, I would think.. Best, LB

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              MAN ELbee, that is a sharp looking bird. Great paint job!!

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              • Elbee
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                I thank you, Sir. This bird was my return to the hobby after 20+ years. Things have certainly evolved since those days, but the customizing is much like old school scratch-building with all the perks of a ready made airframe. I love the way this plane tracks and is just so solid. I had some buckin'-bronco landing damage, but that was entirely on me and since has been fully repaired. Best, LB
            • PaulZ
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              • Feb 2017
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              #10987
              Just upgraded to dual 90mm using the HSDJets EDF units. She flies amazing, much more slow speed thrust and better verticals. Top speed is about the same.

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              • Elbee
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                • Feb 2018
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                #10988
                Originally posted by PaulZ
                Just upgraded to dual 90mm using the HSDJets EDF units. She flies amazing, much more slow speed thrust and better verticals. Top speed is about the same.
                PZ, great looking Hawg, my friend. Best, LB
                "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
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                • Warthog
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                  #10989
                  Question! What is the hottest temp you can take a brushless motor to?

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                  • Warthog
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                    #10990
                    Interesting!!! I just did a test of my A-10 thrust. It has 90mm EDFs. I tied it to a hook in the wall and put a fish scale in the line. It had 12 blade fans. It pulled at 11 lbs. 12 oz.. I swapped out the fans for 9 blade. It pulled 12 lbs. 14 oz.!!! I'm keeping the 9 blades in it. The bird is HEAVY and needs all the thrust it can get.

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                    • MikeT
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                      • Jan 2016
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                      #10991
                      Originally posted by Warthog
                      Interesting!!! I just did a test of my A-10 thrust. It has 90mm EDFs. I tied it to a hook in the wall and put a fish scale in the line. It had 12 blade fans. It pulled at 11 lbs. 12 oz.. I swapped out the fans for 9 blade. It pulled 12 lbs. 14 oz.!!! I'm keeping the 9 blades in it. The bird is HEAVY and needs all the thrust it can get.
                      I find the stock set up more than adequate. Fly most of my flights at 1/2 throttle.

                      Mike
                      \"When Inverted Down Is Up And Up Is Expensive\"

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                      • Warthog
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                        #10992
                        How much does your A-10 weigh? Mine is almost 17 lbs. with all the mods I have done.

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                        • MikeT
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                          #10993
                          Originally posted by Warthog
                          How much does your A-10 weigh? Mine is almost 17 lbs. with all the mods I have done.
                          I don't weigh my models. I've painted mine and did the strut upgrade. I also run 6000 MA batteries. I'm sure it's over the stock weight. As I said it's fine stock.

                          Mike
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                          • Warthog
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                            #10994
                            I'm glad for you.

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                            • Warthog
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                              #10995
                              Who makes the most powerful (thrust) EDF 90mm ??? Thinking of upgrading. Thanks.

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                              • xviper
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                                • Jan 2014
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                                #10996
                                Originally posted by Warthog
                                Who makes the most powerful (thrust) EDF 90mm ??? Thinking of upgrading. Thanks.
                                That's a bit of a loaded question. My suggestion would be to go to RC Castle and look up ALL the 90mm units they sell. Each one describes the thrust and at what amp draw. For mass produced (not specialty, limited production) EDF units, you can see 6s fans and 8s fans, which will be your most powerful units. However, the next question is whether or not the battery compartment will hold enough batteries to fly this thing for a reasonable length of time. Twin 8s battery sets that are at least 5000mah take up much more space than the equivalent 6s packs.

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                                • Warthog
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                                  #10997
                                  I've been looking at the WeMoTec 89 mm, EVO Midifan EDF

                                  Not sure how they would work. I'm running 8000 mAh batteries and 130 amp ESCs.

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                                  • Hugh Wiedman
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                                    • Jan 2018
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                                    #10998
                                    Quick video on my "Snow Hog" that I got out last week with a few other EDF's. This is definitely one of the most relaxing EDF's I have to fly. It's so stable and it's slow flight capability is unmatched, yet even the twin 80mm version has more than enough power do to any maneuver you desire. I'm flying it on 2 SMC 6200mah packs balanced around 18-20mm further back than book recommendation. I've set my timer for 5 minutes of useful throttle time (shutting off at 28%) so usually end up with 6-7 minutes of air time. Not bad for such a large EDF. If the real thing flies as nice as this model, I can see why our troops on the ground and our "Hog" pilots love this machine so much!

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                                    Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
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                                    • TScott
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                                      #10999
                                      Thrust angle
                                      With so many posts to search through, I need to ask….thrust angle….my A-10 is correctly balanced and requires no trim in flight. If I relax the elevator to much after take off, it noses over. If I do touch-and-go’s and add power before touching down the nose dives quickly. Does the upgraded power unit have a better thrust angle? Other solution?

                                      Thanks!

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                                      • xviper
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                                        • Jan 2014
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                                        #11000
                                        Originally posted by TScott
                                        Thrust angle
                                        With so many posts to search through, I need to ask….thrust angle….my A-10 is correctly balanced and requires no trim in flight. If I relax the elevator to much after take off, it noses over. If I do touch-and-go’s and add power before touching down the nose dives quickly. Does the upgraded power unit have a better thrust angle? Other solution?

                                        Thanks!
                                        Did you set the elevators at the recommended 3 to 5 degrees reflex?

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