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Official Freewing 80mm Avanti S Sport Jet Thread

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  • MACE
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    • Jan 2023
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    #3401
    Originally posted by dr.Tom
    102 flights on turbine setup, still like new, amazing plane!

    Doc,

    Did you shorten the mains on the Avanti? I know that some who fly on grass do shorten the mains by about 8 mm or so...Good to see this jet flying well.

    Regards,

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    • MACE
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      • Jan 2023
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      #3402
      Originally posted by Balsa Bob
      I'm sure it has been covered somewhere in this thread ... but I can't find the info. Just checking to see if the CG in the manual (105-110 mm) is preferred .... or you have all figured out a better location ?

      Thanks. Bob
      I see 115 mm mentioned many times in flight reviews for CG on the Avanti...

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      • dr.Tom
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        • Feb 2022
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        #3403
        MACE: No I left them stock.
        Thanks,
        All freewings fly great, later I converted T45 and 2 days ago Mig21, flies awesomeeeee

        https://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc...729#post365729

        My avanti was balanced so it would keep nose up if I lifted it from ground and let go.
        but it is very forgiving and has a wide range of cg (flew it with 4000,5000 and heavy 60000 6S)

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        • MACE
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          #3404
          Originally posted by dr.Tom
          MACE: No I left them stock.
          Thanks,
          All freewings fly great, later I converted T45 and 2 days ago Mig21, flies awesomeeeee

          https://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc...729#post365729

          My avanti was balanced so it would keep nose up if I lifted it from ground and let go.
          but it is very forgiving and has a wide range of cg (flew it with 4000,5000 and heavy 60000 6S)
          You have my interest peaked. That mig 21 is growing on me. I just converted an Avanti to turbine (K30)...Time to put the X-45 in a T-33...

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          • DelynSteve
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            • Jan 2023
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            #3405
            Hello folks,
            First post after receiving my Avanti, quite excited although the weather in the uk will mean I will have to wait for the maiden.
            I am after some advice please regarding an appropriate ubec. I already have a Hobbywing v2 air 5a ubec which I was intending to use, having seen in the MotionRC listing before I bought the model that the stock ESC had a 5a bec. However I have been checking the model over and when I looked at the esc it actually has a 7A bec.
            Not had a model with this many servos in before so wonder whether the Hobbywing will do the job (has a peak of 15A though)
            Any advice gratefully received
            Steve

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            • JohnVH
              Hobby Squawk Student Pilot

              • Nov 2017
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              #3406
              Love this bird, here is some fun dusk flying with the afterburner on!

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              • Eddie P
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                • Mar 2018
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                #3407
                Can anyone point me to a site where I can buy 3D printed (complete) exhaust nozzles for the Avanti! Thanks to all.

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                • Lextek
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                  • Sep 2019
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                  #3408
                  Originally posted by Eddie P
                  Can anyone point me to a site where I can buy 3D printed (complete) exhaust nozzles for the Avanti! Thanks to all.
                  I got mine off the classifieds on RC Groups. Nose gear brace too.

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                  • kallend
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                    • Nov 2016
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                    #3409
                    Originally posted by Eddie P
                    Can anyone point me to a site where I can buy 3D printed (complete) exhaust nozzles for the Avanti! Thanks to all.
                    Wildvortex (advertizes on RCG) will print any of my 13 different Avanti nozzle designs. I have no idea what he charges.

                    The rear of the FW Avanti S looks unfinished. Here is a set of nozzles for the 80mm Avanti S, in a variety of styles from civilian noise abatement to MiG to F-4 to f-15, F-16, variable geometry to F-35 stealth, and fantasy.Print parameters are not important - choose infill and wall thickness according to weight needs.

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                    • Eddie P
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                      • Mar 2018
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                      #3410
                      Kallend and Lextek thank you!

                      Kallend, I totally dig your designs and had them in mind specifically. I love your work on these nozzles. On my first Avanti I created an old school nozzle and used it… loved the look but the 3D printed versions you have created far surpass the fit and finish I was able to achieve on my V1.0 attempt.

                      I now know where to look and will pick one of these up. Thank you again.

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                      • Eddie P
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                        #3411
                        PS Wildvortex is quick on the draw, he’s already got my money, and I’m super excited to get a cool nozzle! Thanks again for the heads up and for crafting these for 3D printing, kallend! Legend!!!

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                        • Topdogzrc
                          MiG Driver

                          • Dec 2016
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                          #3412
                          So in a recent social media posting there was a vote for the option for 4 different schemes for a 'V2' Avanti.
                          In addition to the new paint scheme, I'd be curious to know what other changes have been made. New propulsion system? New retracts? An option for a vectored thrust add-on or turbine conversion?
                          Tom, if you're allowed to, could you please provide some additional information on the new bird?
                          Attached Files

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                          • T-CAT
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                            • Jan 2016
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                            #3413
                            With the new scheme that gets chosen, will Motion RC consider having the whole fuselage painted a base color, such as white, so there isn’t any bare foam?

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                            • Grossman56
                              Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

                              • Jun 2014
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                              #3414
                              Personally, I like scheme number one. The visibility would be great whereas too much blue can be a problem for old eyes. Besides, as T-cat says, this scheme doesn't allow for very much, if any bare foam.

                              Grossman56
                              Team Gross!

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                              • Hugh Wiedman
                                Demolition Pilot

                                • Jan 2018
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                                #3415
                                Originally posted by Grossman56
                                Personally, I like scheme number one. The visibility would be great whereas too much blue can be a problem for old eyes. Besides, as T-cat says, this scheme doesn't allow for very much, if any bare foam.

                                Grossman56
                                Same here, number one is preferred. Although I would like to see a Dark Blue and Orange, similar to the FMS Viper.
                                Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
                                Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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                                • Matt Mathias
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                                  #3416
                                  I made it! I just read this whole thing. Yes I have a red Avanti. Hope to maiden as soon as weather permits. Thank you everyone for the tips and mods. I bought my Avanti used from a very good pilot and he did some kind of mod to the front gear mount where he installed a 8/32 screw from the top side down through the foam to the underside just in front of the nose retract. I noticed it after I got home with the plane. That mod did not come up in any detail in this forum. Does anyone know if its mentioned in the massive rcgroup forum on this plane? I am just getting started reading that tome. I will try to attach a pic after work today.

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                                  • xviper
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                                    • Jan 2014
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                                    #3417
                                    Originally posted by Matt Mathias
                                    some kind of mod to the front gear mount where he installed a 8/32 screw from the top side down through the foam to the underside just in front of the nose retract.
                                    That's sounds like (to me) it was a "home fix" for a loose nose retract. The nose gear on this plane does come loose quite easily after repeated landings, even in the hands of a very good pilot. The screw is probably to stabilize the gear fixture to aid in keeping it from being forced to the rear and/or to help solidify the steering.

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                                    • Matt Mathias
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                                      #3418
                                      Oh ok, cool. I will look more at it after work. I have enjoyed your feedback throughout this thread. Thank you for taking the time. The wing fences on mine were warped beyond hope so I removed them and printed up a set of black fences. They are 5 grams heavier than the originals. I printed and installed one of Kallend's Nozzles. Number 5 on thingiverse to be exact. Beautiful piece of engineering.

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                                      • xviper
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                                        • Jan 2014
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                                        #3419
                                        Originally posted by Matt Mathias
                                        Oh ok, cool. I will look more at it after work. I have enjoyed your feedback throughout this thread. Thank you for taking the time. The wing fences on mine were warped beyond hope so I removed them and printed up a set of black fences. They are 5 grams heavier than the originals. I printed and installed one of Kallend's Nozzles. Number 5 on thingiverse to be exact. Beautiful piece of engineering.
                                        Thank you. Such "home fixes" don't normally get posted by the owner as they can be very specific and don't apply to the general population of planes. I left the wing fences off my old Avanti S and it didn't seem to affect the flight much. They do look neat, though and probable helps a little in stability. 5g is not significant for this plane in that location.
                                        I'm sure Kallend will be happy to hear how much you like his creation.

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                                        • kallend
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                                          #3420
                                          Originally posted by Matt Mathias
                                          I printed and installed one of Kallend's Nozzles. Number 5 on thingiverse to be exact. Beautiful piece of engineering.

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